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Posted: 9/7/2010 5:44:53 PM EDT
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I don't think it was common knowledge that Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader. I think Luke's uncle knew which is why he was so against Luke doing anything but chores.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 5:45:51 PM EDT
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Han shot first!
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Posted: 9/7/2010 5:46:53 PM EDT
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No one knew Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader except for the Jedi - who are all dead except for Obi Wan and Yoda.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 5:49:21 PM EDT
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The real question is, "how was Vader not aware of Luke's existence? "
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Posted: 9/7/2010 5:50:44 PM EDT
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Quoted: The real question is, "how was Vader not aware of Luke's existence? " He was told by the emperor that he killed Padme so he probably assumed their baby was never born. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 5:51:25 PM EDT
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Maybe "Skywalker" (in their galaxy) was as common as "Smith" is in ours?
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Posted: 9/7/2010 5:51:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: No one knew Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader except for the Jedi - who are all dead except for Obi Wan and Yoda. Pretty much. But the couple who adopted Leia (can't remember their names) also knew but they knew better than to ever tell anyone. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 5:53:52 PM EDT
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No one knew Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader except for the Jedi - who are all dead except for Obi Wan and Yoda. Pretty much. But the couple who adopted Leia (can't remember their names) also knew but they knew better than to ever tell anyone. Senator Bail Organa. And you have a Stormtrooper helmet for an avatar? |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 5:54:46 PM EDT
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No one knew Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader except for the Jedi - who are all dead except for Obi Wan and Yoda. Pretty much. But the couple who adopted Leia (can't remember their names) also knew but they knew better than to ever tell anyone. Yep. This is it. Also, Luke was put on Tatooine as bait. Obi Wan expected Vader to come back. The Emperor knew and kept him from going back. If anything could have undone what the Emperor had accomplished, Vader finding out soon after Padme dying could have pulled him back from the Dark Side. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 5:56:15 PM EDT
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No one knew Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader except for the Jedi - who are all dead except for Obi Wan and Yoda. Pretty much. But the couple who adopted Leia (can't remember their names) also knew but they knew better than to ever tell anyone. Yep. This is it. Also, Luke was put on Tatooine as bait. Obi Wan expected Vader to come back. The Emperor knew and kept him from going back. If anything could have undone what the Emperor had accomplished, Vader finding out soon after Padme dying could have pulled him back from the Dark Side. Good point. Obi Wan did live there. I don't know if it was bait, but more of a watching over Luke and staying hidden himself. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 5:58:38 PM EDT
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The real question is, "how was Vader not aware of Luke's existence? " He was told by the emperor that he killed Padme so he probably assumed their baby was never born. This, and scary avitar... |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 5:59:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No one knew Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader except for the Jedi - who are all dead except for Obi Wan and Yoda. Pretty much. But the couple who adopted Leia (can't remember their names) also knew but they knew better than to ever tell anyone. Senator Bail Organa. And you have a Stormtrooper helmet for an avatar? Yeah I know. My Star Wars knowledge is lacking compared to some on this board. I'm just too lazy to look for a new avatar. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:00:56 PM EDT
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No one knew Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader except for the Jedi - who are all dead except for Obi Wan and Yoda. Pretty much. But the couple who adopted Leia (can't remember their names) also knew but they knew better than to ever tell anyone. Senator Bail Organa. And you have a Stormtrooper helmet for an avatar? 
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:00:56 PM EDT
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In before someone posts the Aunt Beruk and Uncle Owen (charred) action figures
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:02:03 PM EDT
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No one knew Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader except for the Jedi - who are all dead except for Obi Wan and Yoda. Pretty much. But the couple who adopted Leia (can't remember their names) also knew but they knew better than to ever tell anyone. Yep. This is it. Also, Luke was put on Tatooine as bait. Obi Wan expected Vader to come back. The Emperor knew and kept him from going back. If anything could have undone what the Emperor had accomplished, Vader finding out soon after Padme dying could have pulled him back from the Dark Side. Good point. Obi Wan did live there. I don't know if it was bait, but more of a watching over Luke and staying hidden himself. One of the books describes Obi Wan's plan. He went back to Tatooine expecting Vader to come not long after. He trained under the guidance of Qui Gon's ghost as Luke grew up. Vader never showed until years later when the droids landed on Tatooine and ended up in Luke's hands. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:04:18 PM EDT
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Quoted: In before someone posts the Aunt Beruk and Uncle Owen (charred) action figures   |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:08:06 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: In before someone posts the Aunt Beruk and Uncle Owen (charred) action figures http://gallery.racoonfink.com/d/8782-1/Star+Wars+-+Uncle+Owen+and+Aunt+Beru+Figure.jpg cracks me up. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:08:28 PM EDT
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Vader had to play it off, because he could not Legitimize Luke before he was 18, since he would have to pay back child support.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:09:53 PM EDT
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No one knew Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader except for the Jedi - who are all dead except for Obi Wan and Yoda. Pretty much. But the couple who adopted Leia (can't remember their names) also knew but they knew better than to ever tell anyone. Senator Bail Organa. And you have a Stormtrooper helmet for an avatar? Yeah I know. My Star Wars knowledge is lacking compared to some on this board. I'm just too lazy to look for a new avatar. You must be one of those clutzy undisciplined Stormtroopers from the first movies, not the organized disciplined Clone Troopers from the last movies. Seriously, beaten by Ewoks?
OK, gues I posted before myself 
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:11:02 PM EDT
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Its a big galaxy and tatooine is a backwater. coulda named the kid "Anakin skywalker's son" and they never woulda found him.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:13:25 PM EDT
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very few people kner Vader was Anakin....and imagine a galaxy full of planets with billions of people on each one of them....there will be a few thousand Skywalkers (at least)
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:17:00 PM EDT
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Where did Charlie hide the never-ending gobstoppers? ....and why didn't he sell it? Was it because the Queen of Hearts wanted to give him head, or was that the Mad Hater? And were Dr. Smith and the Robot secret lovers or was it purely physical?
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:17:17 PM EDT
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docking bay 94....docking bay 94.....Han shot first.....away put your weapon....I mean you no harm......who you callin scruffy looking?
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:19:55 PM EDT
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I just cant get over the fact that the Stormtroopers and Clone Troopers have this supposedly bad ass armor, yet it apparently does nothing to deflect ANYTHING. They die in droves from hits of even the smallest hand-held energy weapons, such as Leia's little princess pistol in New Hope. It just pisses me off.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:21:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: very few people kner Vader was Anakin....and imagine a galaxy full of planets with billions of people on each one of them....there will be a few thousand Skywalkers (at least) Lets make this easier and say there is at least one thousand trillion beings in the galaxy. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:21:51 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No one knew Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader except for the Jedi - who are all dead except for Obi Wan and Yoda. Pretty much. But the couple who adopted Leia (can't remember their names) also knew but they knew better than to ever tell anyone. Senator Bail Organa. And you have a Stormtrooper helmet for an avatar? Yeah I know. My Star Wars knowledge is lacking compared to some on this board. I'm just too lazy to look for a new avatar. You must be one of those clutzy undisciplined Stormtroopers from the first movies, not the organized disciplined Clone Troopers from the last movies. Seriously, beaten by Ewoks? OK, gues I posted before myself http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f314/indy_todd/charred_lars.jpg ETA: Nevermind. My response was stupid. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:22:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: No one knew Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader except for the Jedi - who are all dead except for Obi Wan and Yoda. Pretty much. But the couple who adopted Leia (can't remember their names) also knew but they knew better than to ever tell anyone. Senator Bail Organa of alderaan |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:24:22 PM EDT
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I wondered about that too, I sort of assumed that since the Emperor told Anakin that he killed Padme, Anakin was overcome with grief and completely succumbed to the dark side and never thought to look for his children. I also wonder whether the Emperor also thought the children died in childbirth; I just can't see him NOT checking out Anakin's relatives and his homeworld, but maybe he thought that would be too obvious that no one would ever hide Anakin's descendant there? I just watched Revenge of the Sith a couple days ago, and it sure didn't seem like they planned very much for where to "hide" the children. Bail Organa's cover was pretty solid, but the decision to send Luke to Tattooine was kinda
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:24:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: Its a big galaxy and tatooine is a backwater. coulda named the kid "Anakin skywalker's son" and they never woulda found him. I never want to go back to where I grew up. Why would Vader? |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:26:12 PM EDT
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Obi Wan took the infant Luke to Tatooine because 1) Luke had family there. 2) Vader thought that the unborn children died with Padme 3) There was no way Anakin/Vader would EVER want to go back there for a visit. Way too many bad memories. He associated Tatooine with slavery, the pain of watching his beloved mother die a terrible death, grief, and regret/guilt for butchering the Tusken raider women and children. 4) Tatooine was the armpit of the galaxy with nothing that the Empire would ever want. Tatooine = Gary, IN. So, a moisture farm out in the middle of nowhere on Tatooine was a great place to stash Luke.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:27:09 PM EDT
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Its a big galaxy and tatooine is a backwater. coulda named the kid "Anakin skywalker's son" and they never woulda found him. I never want to go back to where I grew up. Why would Vader? pretty much this. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:32:30 PM EDT
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No one knew Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader except for the Jedi - who are all dead except for Obi Wan and Yoda. Pretty much. But the couple who adopted Leia (can't remember their names) also knew but they knew better than to ever tell anyone. Senator Bail Organa. And you have a Stormtrooper helmet for an avatar? Yeah I know. My Star Wars knowledge is lacking compared to some on this board. I'm just too lazy to look for a new avatar. You must be one of those clutzy undisciplined Stormtroopers from the first movies, not the organized disciplined Clone Troopers from the last movies. Seriously, beaten by Ewoks?
OK, gues I posted before myself http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f314/indy_todd/charred_lars.jpg ETA: Nevermind. My response was stupid. You must have missed THIS thread?
Why do the storm troopers in the original Star Wars appear to be very incompetent and are basically bumbling idiots. When in the newer movies (although prequels), they are well disciplined, well trained and very competent fighters?
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:40:39 PM EDT
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No one knew Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader except for the Jedi - who are all dead except for Obi Wan and Yoda. one is in seclusion and the other is watching out for luke |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:42:23 PM EDT
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dQuoted: I just cant get over the fact that the Stormtroopers and Clone Troopers have this supposedly bad ass armor, yet it apparently does nothing to deflect ANYTHING. They die in droves from hits of even the smallest hand-held energy weapons, such as Leia's little princess pistol in New Hope. It just pisses me off. It deflects vagina....just like guys who talk about Star Wars. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 6:49:20 PM EDT
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Quoted: I wondered about that too, I sort of assumed that since the Emperor told Anakin that he killed Padme, Anakin was overcome with grief and completely succumbed to the dark side and never thought to look for his children. I also wonder whether the Emperor also thought the children died in childbirth; I just can't see him NOT checking out Anakin's relatives and his homeworld, but maybe he thought that would be too obvious that no one would ever hide Anakin's descendant there? I just watched Revenge of the Sith a couple days ago, and it sure didn't seem like they planned very much for where to "hide" the children. Bail Organa's cover was pretty solid, but the decision to send Luke to Tattooine was kinda Lie I tell my wife whenever there is a plot mistake or confusing plot line... "It's a fucking movie. Get over it..." |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:00:34 PM EDT
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These are good explanations.
Any reason why Leia didn't also have the last name Skywalker? What was Leia's last name anyways? Oh and the charred action figures are awesome. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:03:35 PM EDT
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Leia was adopted by Senator Bail Organa of Alderaan. Hence, Leia Organa.
AV1611 out.... Quoted:
These are good explanations. Any reason why Leia didn't also have the last name Skywalker? What was Leia's last name anyways? Oh and the charred action figures are awesome. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:05:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: Leia was adopted by Senator Bail Organa of Alderaan. Hence, Leia Organa. AV1611 out.... Quoted: These are good explanations. Any reason why Leia didn't also have the last name Skywalker? What was Leia's last name anyways? Oh and the charred action figures are awesome. Ah thanks. So the Tommyknockers guy. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:12:34 PM EDT
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If the force was so strong in Leia, I would love to know why Vader could not sense the force in her and/or that she was his daughter prior to him reading Luke's mind.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:14:59 PM EDT
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I never want to go back to where I grew up. Why would Vader? Because Vader spent a good portion of the time between ROTS and Star Wars hunting down the surviving Jedi. But apparently ObiWan ingeniously changing his name to Ben threw him off the track... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:16:40 PM EDT
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I asked pretty much the same question in another star wars thread. Since Luke was a baby why didn't they just give him their last name and raise him as their child.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:18:02 PM EDT
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Quoted: I asked pretty much the same question in another star wars thread. Since Luke was a baby why didn't they just give him their last name and raise him as their child. because owen was an asshole |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:18:19 PM EDT
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Luke was trained to use the Force. He put out a high level of "Force vibes" that could be easily sensed by Vader. Leia was totally untrained and had never tried to use the Force at that time in her life. Leah eventually became a Jedi, but her focus on politics and late start in her training was to the detriment of her Jedi potential.
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If the force was so strong in Leia, I would love to know why Vader could not sense the force in her and/or that she was his daughter prior to him reading Luke's mind. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:20:41 PM EDT
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I never want to go back to where I grew up. Why would Vader? Because Vader spent a good portion of the time between ROTS and Star Wars hunting down the surviving Jedi. But apparently ObiWan ingeniously changing his name to Ben threw him off the track...
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yeah, I always liked that one. Mighty sneaky, that Obi-Wan |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:29:48 PM EDT
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The Dark Lord did not recognize Luke until he came of age and was no longer protected by the enchantment passed on to his Uncle Vernon and Aunt Beru upon his mother's death. The "presence" Darth Voldemort felt on the death star was not Sirius Kenobi as we are led to believe in the movie, it was actually the familliar feelings he had towards Padme Potter through her (an unbeknownst to Anakin Riddle) son.
I know some of you will say, "But why didn't Darth Voldemort recognize Leia as his daughter then?" and my only answer to that is that she was a stuck up bitch and didn't care to be in her company long enough to stir those feelings. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:35:18 PM EDT
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Kirk > Picard
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:41:40 PM EDT
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I asked pretty much the same question in another star wars thread. Since Luke was a baby why didn't they just give him their last name and raise him as their child. because owen was an asshole LOL |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:45:41 PM EDT
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I have heard the entire series plot line was already outlined before production of Episode IV. I've heard that too, it has to be bullshit |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:49:49 PM EDT
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The Dark Lord did not recognize Luke until he came of age and was no longer protected by the enchantment passed on to his Uncle Vernon and Aunt Beru upon his mother's death. The "presence" Darth Voldemort felt on the death star was not Sirius Kenobi as we are led to believe in the movie, it was actually the familliar feelings he had towards Padme Potter through her (an unbeknownst to Anakin Riddle) son. I know some of you will say, "But why didn't Darth Voldemort recognize Leia as his daughter then?" and my only answer to that is that she was a stuck up bitch and didn't care to be in her company long enough to stir those feelings. CarbineMom, the Harry Potter nerd, likes this |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:51:37 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No one knew Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader except for the Jedi - who are all dead except for Obi Wan and Yoda. Pretty much. But the couple who adopted Leia (can't remember their names) also knew but they knew better than to ever tell anyone. Yep. This is it. Also, Luke was put on Tatooine as bait. Obi Wan expected Vader to come back. The Emperor knew and kept him from going back. If anything could have undone what the Emperor had accomplished, Vader finding out soon after Padme dying could have pulled him back from the Dark Side. Good point. Obi Wan did live there. I don't know if it was bait, but more of a watching over Luke and staying hidden himself. One of the books describes Obi Wan's plan. He went back to Tatooine expecting Vader to come not long after. He trained under the guidance of Qui Gon's ghost as Luke grew up. Vader never showed until years later when the droids landed on Tatooine and ended up in Luke's hands. That's a pretty retarded plan when you consider the fact that the last time Obi Wan saw Vader he was nothing but a burnt to shit robot arm with some meat attached. To come up with that plan he would have had to of known, or at least suspected, that Vader was going to survive in which case he should have just finished the job on Mustafar. |
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