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Posted: 9/8/2004 11:05:27 AM EST



Section 5845 (a) (7) of Title 26 US Code is repealed.

Section 921 (3) (c ) of Title 18 US code is repealed
Section 921 (24) of Title 18 US code is repealed

Amendments made by this bill take effect immediately after being signed into law.

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Pass this and sound supressors are unrestricted.

CRC
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 11:10:57 AM EST
How about you pretend for a moment that most of us don't want to go through the trouble of researching and editing the USC to find out what the hell it is you are trying to say and just give us the bullet points!
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 11:19:47 AM EST
Pass my model law and "silencers" are no longer firearms.

It's that simple.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 11:19:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
How about you pretend for a moment that most of us don't want to go through the trouble of researching and editing the USC to find out what the hell it is you are trying to say and just give us the bullet points!

+1
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 11:24:31 AM EST
What, huh? Did you say a something?
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 11:26:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
How about you pretend for a moment that most of us don't want to go through the trouble of researching and editing the USC to find out what the hell it is you are trying to say and just give us the bullet points!



Those are the sections of the USC that regulate sound suppressors. He is asking for suppressors ("silencers" to the Hollywood and soccer mom crowd) to be unregulated. No more tax to pay. No more .gov permission to obtain.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 11:30:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2004 11:30:56 AM EST by Red_Beard]
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 11:32:05 AM EST
Fixed it.


Originally Posted By Red_Beard:


Link Posted: 9/8/2004 11:33:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2004 11:35:31 AM EST by jblachly]
This may in fact be a good strategy: now that we finally have the ball, after the other team ran 20 series in a row, we need to

PLAY SOME SERIOUS OFFENSE


When I say this may be a good strategy, I don't actually see suppresors becoming totally unrestricted. What I CAN see is us doing just what the other side has been doing for years: push way harder than we think we have a chance for, and then when we "compromise", a silencer is all of a sudden just a Title I firearm, which is LIGHT-YEARS beyond the situation we're in now, and other side feels like we had to give up some field (compromise) when in reality we did nothing but gain.

For those whose eyes glazed over at the sight of having to read a whole paragraph, I'll say it here:


Try for more than we expect, then when we "compromise", we still win! Realistically we could get silencers made Title I firearms if we push for them to be totally unregulated
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 11:35:27 AM EST
Like a scope they should not be restricted.

CRC
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 11:45:17 AM EST
Wouldn't make a bit of difference for me. The State of Michigan feels that I am better off without any device that reduces or modifies the report of a firearm.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 11:53:58 AM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Wouldn't make a bit of difference for me. The State of Michigan feels that I am better off without any device that reduces or modifies the report of a firearm.



Ditto in the People's Paradise of New York
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 11:55:44 AM EST
Well I would hope we could count on you people's support regardless of what your state laws say, otherwise, with all the negative attitude we have in the gun community NO WONDER we don't ever make any progress.

Shoot we're only getting some rights back this time because the law /automatically/ sunsets, not because of some super awesome co-ordinated campaign to write a bill and pass a law to repeal it.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 11:57:22 AM EST
legal in 33 states.

So move.

CRC
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 12:06:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2004 12:07:33 PM EST by Steve_T_M]
I'm in. I'll write to the congresscritters I posted a draft letter on the subject here and on another forum recently to that effect. I'm glad someone else feels the same way. Who's a good congressman sympathetic to our cause? Craig from Idaho?
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 12:17:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By Steve_T_M:
I'm in. I'll write to the congresscritters I posted a draft letter on the subject here and on another forum recently to that effect. I'm glad someone else feels the same way. Who's a good congressman sympathetic to our cause? Craig from Idaho?



Or Jeff Sessions from Alabama, but it could be important to find someone who's viewed by his/her colleagues as more moderate because of the back-scratching dealmating vote-trading that goes on, you know?
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 12:21:33 PM EST
That depends on the election in November.

CRC
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:58:41 PM EST
Bump for night crew.

I think a good title would be

Firearm noise reduction and sport shooter's hearing protection restoration act of 2004/5
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:26:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By CRC:
legal in 33 states.

So move.

CRC



Don't get mad. I support any move towards removing the unconstitutional restrictions on our gfun rights. I was just lementing the fact that the State of Michigan has a seperate more restrictive ban than the national ban.

A removal of the Federal restriction would just be one step closer to freedom for the State of Michingan.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:33:23 PM EST
I'm in. Someone draft a good letter to cut and paste and I'll send it in. Get it to other boards you post on.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:38:51 PM EST
Like the idea very much. Only suggest one change. Make it "Protection" instead of "Restoration". You can't give people back their lost hearing but you can protect future generations of shooters.

The panty-wad do-gooders love to PROTECT things and there's a huge "Do it for the Children" () angle that could be worked in here as well.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:59:20 PM EST
There is really valid reasoning behind such a law. the fact that suburbia is encroaching on gun ranges, noise polution is becoming more of an issue. Make it the "Sportsmans Noise Pollution Reduction Act" Purpose is to reduce complaints from residents related to lawful shooting events and hunting activities.
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