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Posted: 8/21/2017 7:19:08 PM EST
Would liberals be in favor of a Universal Basic Income if the government forcefully confiscated it from other countries instead of from successful Americans? 

Say we glass the fuck out of places like Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq and then give every American a check for their portion of oil/rare-earth mineral revenue? I have a feeling liberals would be against that, but it's perfectly fine to steal money from your own citizens.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 7:20:49 PM EST
UBI is still a bad idea, and we're still 20T in debt with 150T in unfunded liabilities.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 7:25:28 PM EST
Go over to DU and Ask them. Except say "Tax" the occupied territories, instead of "Nuke" 'em.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 7:52:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RenegadeJack:
UBI is still a bad idea, and we're still 20T in debt with 150T in unfunded liabilities.
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A convenient war with the right parties would solve that problem..
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 8:03:01 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 8:04:10 PM EST
It's like that episode of Futurama where everyone got $300 
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 8:05:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RenegadeJack:
UBI is still a bad idea, and we're still 20T in debt with 150T in unfunded liabilities.
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I think they're in the plan. Equal suffering. Means testing.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 8:07:11 PM EST
Redistribute the federal funds for all sanctuary cities to everyone who actually paid taxes last year.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 8:15:58 PM EST
Well that's a wonderful way to combine the worst ideas of left wing and right wing political thought.

It always comes down to either bribing people or shoving guns in their faces it seems.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 8:58:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2017 9:10:24 PM EST by tetoncounty]
There is a precedent for this: Rome, both the Republic and the Empire.
Powerful Romans sought acclaim. The ultimate acclamation was the Triumph. We think of it as simply a parade through Rome, with cheering crowds. But the crowds were there, and cheering, because of the largesse distributed due to the Triumph.
Rome, by the latter years of the Republic, had an enormous FSA population- several hundred thousand people, dependent on state welfare. They were alternately cultivated, feared, and used by factions of the Roman elite. There was a delicate balance between reward and repression.
Much like today.
The chief source of Triumphs was overseas conquest.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 9:00:59 PM EST
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If I could live off it after I pay my house off I'd gladly retire

I am only 32

Retarded idea is retarded
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 9:02:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2017 9:03:38 PM EST by motopic]
Originally Posted By ContrarianIndicator:
Would liberals be in favor of a Universal Basic Income if the government forcefully confiscated it from other countries instead of from successful Americans? 

Say we glass the fuck out of places like Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq and then give every American a check for their portion of oil/rare-earth mineral revenue? I have a feeling liberals would be against that, but it's perfectly fine to steal money from your own citizens.
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Yes...... because that plan does not increase THIER POWER over citizens.

but I like this idea.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 12:15:28 AM EST
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Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
Imperialism will never be OK with the left.
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LOL, tell that to the Soviet Union and China who invaded Finland and Vietnam.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:34:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
Imperialism will never be OK with the left.
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Which is really weird since I can't tell the difference between imperialism and international Communism...
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:55:44 AM EST
Is this the thread where we pretend UBI is not a libertarian idea backed by Nobel-winning conservative economists?
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 9:57:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By GreyHat:
Is this the thread where we pretend UBI is not a libertarian idea backed by Nobel-winning conservative economists?
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What?

I've seen some who asserted that UBI would be more efficient than the current bloated administrative apparatus that manages and distributes the myriad welfare programs. However saying UBI might be better than the current state of things is not the same as UBI being a "libertarian idea".
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 11:27:47 AM EST
Originally Posted By ContrarianIndicator:
Would liberals be in favor of a Universal Basic Income if the government forcefully confiscated it from other countries instead of from successful Americans? 

Say we glass the fuck out of places like Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq and then give every American a check for their portion of oil/rare-earth mineral revenue? I have a feeling liberals would be against that, but it's perfectly fine to steal money from your own citizens.
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Do you want the People's Republic of Haven?

'Cause that's how you get the People's Republic of Haven.


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