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Posted: 8/16/2005 10:16:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 10:17:40 PM EDT by www-glock19-com]
Sure am glad now that this whole border and drug problem is licked
they can spend 5M of my tax money on this horse shit



http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/05/576.asp
California Crackdown on Modified Cars
$5 million in federal money will fund a Sacramento, California effort to stop drivers in modified cars.

Police in Sacramento, California announced Wednesday that they would use $5 million in federal money to begin cracking down on auto enthusiasts who modify their vehicles. The money will be used to form an undercover "Drag-Net" unit to stop motorists who appear to be driving modified cars.

The concept, which originated in San Diego in 2001, has been spreading throughout California generating significant revenue for the state and local departments. In Santa Fe Springs, for example, twelve officers on Drag-Net duty issued 300 citations and impounded 50 vehicles in just one weekend. Several cities have drag-racing ordinances that allow police to auction off seized cars and keep the profits.

Under Drag-Net, San Diego officers come to train other departments how to look out for what they believe to be tell-tale signs of illegal modification such as window tinting, large spoilers, extra gauges or racing stickers. Police say this gives them probable cause to stop and inspect a vehicle and its engine compartment.

In practice, "excessive exaust noise" tickets are the most common violation. California law does not require police to measure sound levels objectively. Instead, according to the California Highway Patrol, the "citation is based on officer's judgment."

Drivers of stock vehicles that come from the factory with some of the characteristics of modified cars have experienced harassment under this provision. One such motorist complained on an enthusiast website that the Calfiornia Highway Patrol was using these programs to make "driving while Asian" a crime, pointing out that the department's own website has several pages dedicated to Asian involvement in street racing and "vehicle modification."

Those receiving a vehicle modification "fix-it" ticket must visit a California Bureau of Automobile Repair office and pay a $35 fee to have their car inspected. If the car fails, a judge can impose another fine of up to $2000 for failing to meet California emissions requirements.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:23:23 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:25:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 11:30:08 PM EDT by twonami]
California isn't the only state to do dumb shit.
your gubment tax dollars at work.
As much as I hate ricers this is just fucking retarded and a huge waste of money
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:34:05 PM EDT
window tinting WTF
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:47:04 PM EDT
Welcome to last week. Check the CA forum, we've discussed it to death.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 11:48:08 PM EDT
JAPANESE CAR PROFILINNNNNNGGG!!!!
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 12:06:19 AM EDT
Those dang spoilers are such a hazard.

Not that I would waste my money on putting that crap on my cars, but to each his own.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 12:32:25 AM EDT
Im so glad I don't live there...don't tell me I cant f-ing customize my damn car...I'll do with it what I please.

-Derek
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 5:45:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
Sure am glad now that this whole border and drug problem is licked
they can spend 5M of my tax money on this horse shit



Yes, I bet if the US border states did real inspections on legal & illegal alliens' vehicles, only about 1 in 10 would pass inspection criteria. Oh, and while we are at it, how about confirming that these drivers actually have insurance... so when they hit my car, instead of abandoning their vehicle and running off into the weeds, I can get my car fixed on their dime.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:42:06 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:47:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/17/2005 8:48:31 AM EDT by California_Kid]

Originally Posted By MuRDoC:
window tinting WTF



It's a cultural thing.

Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:52:01 AM EDT
its not the wing on the back of my RX7 track car, its the moderately boosted engine under the hood, the 350 WHP, the full coilover suspension and the limited slip.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:53:30 AM EDT

http://www.laughatrice.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_jerseyGTg32p05.jpg


The sad part is that ricer car is probably faster than most of the domestic cars with V8s, namely slow cop cars.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 10:15:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By metroplex:

http://www.laughatrice.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_jerseyGTg32p05.jpg


The sad part is that ricer car is probably faster than most of the domestic cars with V8s, namely slow cop cars.



The real sad part is that all the bolt-on bodywork made you THINK it was fast, when in reality what's under the hood is a bone-stock 4 banger, that now has to strain under all that extra weight.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 10:19:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By metroplex:

http://www.laughatrice.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_jerseyGTg32p05.jpg


The sad part is that SOME ricer car is probably faster than most of the domestic cars with V8s, namely slow cop cars.



Most ricey looking things out there are nothing more than 4 bangers with bad body kits, bad paint jobs, and a fart-can muffler.

Some guys really do have trick cars, and I can appreciate those.

But a lot of them are just idiots who watched the fast and the furious one too many times.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 10:20:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By metroplex:

http://www.laughatrice.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_jerseyGTg32p05.jpg


The sad part is that ricer car is probably faster than most of the domestic cars with V8s, namely slow cop cars.





Rice and fast dont go in the same sentence.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 10:24:23 AM EDT
No officer I haven't modified my vehicle at all!

Link Posted: 8/17/2005 10:30:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 10:30:57 AM EDT
since when is it illegal to modify one's automobile?




Link Posted: 8/17/2005 10:33:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By livefreeordieNH:
since when is it illegal to modify one's automobile?








Kalifornia.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 2:51:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:
Good luck getting those searches to stand up to judicial review.


Yep Im guessing the ACLU will be there shortly too
cuz Im betting they are not pulling over any rich white guys with a AMG Benz
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 3:06:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 3:14:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By livefreeordieNH:
since when is it illegal to modify one's automobile?







Many modifications to the emissions (exhaust) system are illegal under federal law, I believe.



Its alot worse under California laws since everything has to be passed through their California Air Resources Board. Go to your local Autozone and pick out an air cleaner wingnut with a Chevy logo on it. You'll see a little dislclaimer printed on the packaging that reads "not for sale or use in California on emission controlled vehicles", because the maker of the wingnut didn't want to put up with the bureaucratic bullshit of CARB just to sell a wingnut in Cali. Now we all know that a wingnut doesn't alter the car's emissions at all, but since the bureaucrats didn't give their blessing to that aftermarket part, its a violation to have it on your car and can get your car impounded if the cops follow the letter of the law.

Here's a quick guide on Holley.com:

www.holley.com/emission.asp

P.S. The left wants the entire country to be like this. Can we start the next civil war soon please?
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 3:16:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/17/2005 3:18:09 PM EDT by California_Kid]

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By livefreeordieNH:
since when is it illegal to modify one's automobile?






Kalifornia.



Any alteration of the emissions control equipment will make your car fail the biennial smog inspection, even if it makes the car run cleaner. Emissions control equipment covers the engine itself, intake and exhaust systems, and everything that controls ignition timing, valve behavior, and mixture. The idea that this covers an after-market wingnut for your air cleaner cover is just a little far-fetched, but I got hassled for not having a pre-heater hose on my '85 Nissan truck even though that has zero effect in San Diego's mild climate.

This applies only to cars registered to drive on public roads. On private land or a racetrack, anything goes.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 3:19:46 PM EDT
must be for the children, tryin' to get all those "EVIL" High Powered "Assault" cars of our streets
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 3:20:23 PM EDT
Well, I don't know about you guys, but I think I'd rather have that 5 million federal money spent on cargo container inspection in the bay area instead of ricers. But, we all know that kalifornia has it's priorities.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 3:34:43 PM EDT
That's complete bullshit!

I do hate those "Fast and the Furious" cars, though.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 3:41:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By livefreeordieNH:
since when is it illegal to modify one's automobile?







Many modifications to the emissions (exhaust) system are illegal under federal law, I believe.



Its alot worse under California laws since everything has to be passed through their California Air Resources Board. Go to your local Autozone and pick out an air cleaner wingnut with a Chevy logo on it. You'll see a little dislclaimer printed on the packaging that reads "not for sale or use in California on emission controlled vehicles", because the maker of the wingnut didn't want to put up with the bureaucratic bullshit of CARB just to sell a wingnut in Cali. Now we all know that a wingnut doesn't alter the car's emissions at all, but since the bureaucrats didn't give their blessing to that aftermarket part, its a violation to have it on your car and can get your car impounded if the cops follow the letter of the law.

Here's a quick guide on Holley.com:

www.holley.com/emission.asp

P.S. The left wants the entire country to be like this. Can we start the next civil war soon please?



It was for this very reason that I continued to drive my 1968 VW Bug. No emissions testing for anything older than 1974. :)

CARB is one of the reasons I won't ever move back, either.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 5:58:20 PM EDT
Unknownsailor-- yup, in Cali they have pre-ban cars as well as pre-ban rifles.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 6:26:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By metroplex:

http://www.laughatrice.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_jerseyGTg32p05.jpg


The sad part is that SOME ricer car is probably faster than most of the domestic cars with V8s, namely slow cop cars.



Most ricey looking things out there are nothing more than 4 bangers with bad body kits, bad paint jobs, and a fart-can muffler.

Some guys really do have trick cars, and I can appreciate those.

But a lot of them are just idiots who watched the fast and the furious one too many times.



they can either put money into worthless body add ons or performance things, but rarely both
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 6:34:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:
Good luck getting those searches to stand up to judicial review.



Aimless, consider yourself on retainer. God forbid a NY State trooper Tax Collector ever pulls me over and looks under the hood..
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 6:42:55 PM EDT
I wonder if they stop Harleys and write tickets for excessive noise? Nor a ricer fan but Harley owners are the most blatant noise violators on the road today.

Soon in cali you will only be approved to run a Duracell TM battery powered car. Bleh.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 7:22:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:
I wonder if they stop Harleys and write tickets for excessive noise? Nor a ricer fan but Harley owners are the most blatant noise violators on the road today.

Soon in cali you will only be approved to run a Duracell TM battery powered car. Bleh.



+1

Even when hydrogen cars come out they'll make you connect a tube from the exhaust to your mouth and require you to drink the condensed water vapors.

Why can't we go back to the good-old-days of leaded gasoline.
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