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Posted: 12/14/2013 11:16:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/14/2013 11:58:58 AM EST by Imissed]
So, I was shooting some factory reloads and had 2 split casing out of 25 rounds fired. Am I going to die? I've stopped shooting that load of ammo for now, but it's a wee bit worrysome.
They're 125 or so gr .38 special +P


They look well put together though.


Cylinder picture. Sorry for terribleness, these all were taken on a phone.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 11:17:47 AM EST
This is why I don't but reloads from companies
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 11:20:50 AM EST
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But...
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 11:21:27 AM EST
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I generally don't either, but it was given to me by a friend. Just is a PSA / look what happened type post. Wish I had the load data.
It's speer brass though, which is interesting.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 11:21:48 AM EST
1. use a ball mic to check the diameter of the cylinders on your gun.
2. use an od micrometer to measure the cases
if these are correct
then the brass you were using was processed using
a chemical that weakened the metallurgical web
common mistakes are chemicals like brasso with ammonia
If the brass or cylinder is out of spec, replace the cylinder
or send the ammo back in for a refund

if they are in-spec
get a RMA and send the ammo on WITH the split cases as well.
They should issue a re-call.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 11:21:50 AM EST
JUNK!!! Throw the rest in the trash.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 11:46:40 AM EST
both split cases mic at .3835
unfired factory is .3765
My fired reloads mic at .3860

Random chamber is .3720 and .3850 and .3780.

I'm using cheap calipers so I figure this is causing the discrepancies.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 11:52:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/14/2013 11:54:02 AM EST by dsmjim]
Case splits like that are harmless in a revolver. They make for hard extraction, but no other problems. Nickle cases will wear out faster than brass. The company you bought them from should be willing to replace or refund, anyway. If not I wouldn't worry about shooting them.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 11:58:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/14/2013 12:00:10 PM EST by CPT_CAVEMAN]
WOW, you do know what the +P stands for, right OP? I think I would pass on shooting someones reloads, especially knowing they are loaded hot.

+P and a heavy crimp?! fuck that, and that brass looks wore out even before firing.

Link Posted: 12/14/2013 11:59:44 AM EST
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Factory re-manufactured, wasn't bubbas r us Inc either. But yeah, expected better QC and whatnot. They were also free.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 12:03:54 PM EST
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Factory re-manufactured, wasn't bubbas r us Inc either. But yeah, expected better QC and whatnot. They were also free.
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WOW, you do know what the +P stands for, right OP? I think I would pass on shooting someones reloads, especially knowing they are loaded hot.


Factory re-manufactured, wasn't bubbas r us Inc either. But yeah, expected better QC and whatnot. They were also free.



Who was it? So I know not to buy from them.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 12:05:51 PM EST
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Who was it? So I know not to buy from them.
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:
WOW, you do know what the +P stands for, right OP? I think I would pass on shooting someones reloads, especially knowing they are loaded hot.


Factory re-manufactured, wasn't bubbas r us Inc either. But yeah, expected better QC and whatnot. They were also free.



Who was it? So I know not to buy from them.


Savannah something or the other, can't find the bag right now. Came in lots of 50 and the other 100 rounds shot perfectly fine.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 12:08:25 PM EST
I have nickel brass that has been reloaded so many times the only nickel remaining is in the rim grove and have yet to split a case, the loaded rounds you show don't even have that severe of a crimp either.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 12:56:19 PM EST
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Case splits like that are harmless in a revolver. They make for hard extraction, but no other problems. Nickle cases will wear out faster than brass. The company you bought them from should be willing to replace or refund, anyway. If not I wouldn't worry about shooting them.
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This. Nickel cases = one or two then done if loaded hot. (especially on that gorilla crimp they put on them).

Dibs on guns, not the ammo if u keep shooting em.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 1:14:09 PM EST
I haven't bought a store bought round in about 15 years - reload at least 10 different calibers and .38/.357 are more predisposed to split than anything else I shoot. Next would be .44 mag. I'm guessing it has something to do with the small amount of powder in a large casing and maybe the cylinder gap. I have some 9mm and ,45acp that I've reloaded so many times the head stamps have worn off.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 1:14:11 PM EST
Noticed the same heavy crimp, I tend to stay away from factory reloads.
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