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Posted: 9/5/2010 6:35:29 PM EDT
So, before the Obama election, they were apparently regarded as a good maker of quality AR's. Then Obama got elected and they jacked up their price and everyone went apeshit. Now they are a well-regarded maker again. Somehow, I missed a step. What did they do to earn your trust back? Or did you just let bygones be bygones?

Link Posted: 9/5/2010 6:37:02 PM EDT
I think you're mistaken.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 6:37:20 PM EDT
Haven't earned anything back from me.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 6:37:37 PM EDT
Many (not all) finally accepted the facts about free market, and supply and demand.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 6:39:25 PM EDT
I don't really care about their pricing. They simply don't make anything I want.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 6:44:02 PM EDT
They are an industry partner, and they made a LE upper for a great price.

Am I supposed to hold some kind of a grudge and stomp my feet or something?
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 6:49:06 PM EDT
Hey, don't look at me. I don't own a Spikes product. It's not that I have a grudge or anything. As a denizen of the Retro forum, I just happen to have a fondness for Nodak lowers.

I was just comparing the grudges people had with Ruger and S&W against Spikes. It just seemed like Spikes recovered faster. I was curious why.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 6:52:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Willmar:
Hey, don't look at me. I don't own a Spikes product. It's not that I have a grudge or anything. As a denizen of the Retro forum, I just happen to have a fondness for Nodak lowers.

I was just comparing the grudges people had with Ruger and S&W against Spikes. It just seemed like Spikes recovered faster. I was curious why.

Well Ruger, in addition to lobbying his company's freedom of the AWB, just makes shitty guns
S&W, not too sure about. I think something to do with their revolvers
Cheaper than Dirt just lied about shit and blamed their raising prices by saying the manufacturers did it, when, in fact, they didn't.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 6:53:30 PM EDT
There was also the stuff with anvil arms.

But I still like Spikes. Good to see someone in the southern states putting out quality firearms.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 6:56:19 PM EDT
Ruger... "Firearms for responsible citizens..." the slogan that came out before they made black guns...

Implying that anyone with a black gun, or more than 10 rounds, was somehow irresponsible? Screw Ruger...
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 6:56:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Willmar:
Hey, don't look at me. I don't own a Spikes product...


Don' t look at me either, I sold my Spike's shit. At a heavy discount.

I have a long memory when it comes to chicanery aimed at my wallet.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:03:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Willmar:
So, before the Obama election, they were apparently regarded as a good maker of quality AR's. Then Obama got elected and they jacked up their price and everyone went apeshit. Now they are a well-regarded maker again. Somehow, I missed a step. What did they do to earn your trust back? Or did you just let bygones be bygones?



I 2 lowers for 85 bucks from a post election build party, does that mean they jacked their prices?? this was abotu 4 months after the election.

Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:08:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ridge_Runner_5:

Originally Posted By Willmar:
Hey, don't look at me. I don't own a Spikes product. It's not that I have a grudge or anything. As a denizen of the Retro forum, I just happen to have a fondness for Nodak lowers.

I was just comparing the grudges people had with Ruger and S&W against Spikes. It just seemed like Spikes recovered faster. I was curious why.

Well Ruger, in addition to lobbying his company's freedom of the AWB, just makes shitty guns
S&W, not too sure about. I think something to do with their revolvers
Cheaper than Dirt just lied about shit and blamed their raising prices by saying the manufacturers did it, when, in fact, they didn't.




Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:08:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Evil_ATF:
Haven't earned anything back from me.


Same here.......
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:12:16 PM EDT
Spike lost ever bit of credibility with me for the shit they pulled in the IAHTF.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:18:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2010 7:18:41 PM EDT by RevMetric]
I haven't forgotten. Most dealers jacked up the price of lowers after the election. They were just the first ones I noticed doing it within hours of the election. To me, that's the definition of price gouging. I'm sure my self imposed boycott hasn't hurt them one bit. They seem to be doing fine... just not with my money.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:19:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BobRoberts:
Spike lost ever bit of credibility with me for the shit they pulled in the IAHTF.


What was that?
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:21:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KalihiJack:
Originally Posted By BobRoberts:
Spike lost ever bit of credibility with me for the shit they pulled in the IAHTF.


What was that?


This.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:24:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Evil_ATF:
Haven't earned anything back from me.


me either ... i'm all for free markets, but ............... nevermind............ lets just say that there are other good folks out there who now get my cash.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:24:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2010 7:25:00 PM EDT by Bubbatheredneck]
I sure hope we don't run out of sand so everyone that wants a turn gets one.



Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:26:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tweeter:
Originally Posted By Willmar:
Hey, don't look at me. I don't own a Spikes product...


Don' t look at me either, I sold my Spike's shit. At a heavy discount.

I have a long memory when it comes to chicanery aimed at my wallet.


Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:26:08 PM EDT
This must come up once a month. If anyone forgets Spike's raising their prices it won't be because people let it die, that's for sure.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:27:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
I sure hope we don't run out of sand so everyone that wants a turn gets one.





Is that some sort of sandy vagina joke? I don't quite get it.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:30:53 PM EDT
dunno they are still on my do not buy list
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:32:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2010 7:33:59 PM EDT by Bubbatheredneck]
Originally Posted By Znak:
Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
I sure hope we don't run out of sand so everyone that wants a turn gets one.





Is that some sort of sandy vagina joke? I don't quite get it.



Yup.

The energy spent vilifying a gun manufacturer by some here gets old.

But hey, if it makes you happy, go ahead.

Holding grudges such as these doesn't do as much for me anymore.



I buy stuff because the price is right and it goes bang when I pull the trigger.

My Spikes upper fulfills both.








Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:33:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ridge_Runner_5:
Many (not all) finally accepted the facts about free market, and supply and demand.

Some have yet to accept the facts about the customer's right to voice their opinion if they feel a supplier has artificially inflated the price.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:34:12 PM EDT
Meh, I like Spikes.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:36:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Skg_Mre_Lght:

Originally Posted By Ridge_Runner_5:

Originally Posted By Willmar:
Hey, don't look at me. I don't own a Spikes product. It's not that I have a grudge or anything. As a denizen of the Retro forum, I just happen to have a fondness for Nodak lowers.

I was just comparing the grudges people had with Ruger and S&W against Spikes. It just seemed like Spikes recovered faster. I was curious why.

Well Ruger, in addition to lobbying his company's freedom of the AWB, just makes shitty guns
S&W, not too sure about. I think something to do with their revolvers
Cheaper than Dirt just lied about shit and blamed their raising prices by saying the manufacturers did it, when, in fact, they didn't.





Ruger continues to make some of the best revolvers on the market. And while their semi auto's are a bit on the hefty side, they go bang every time. Ruger shotguns are among the best at their price points and the Modell 77 is a damn fine bolt action.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:40:59 PM EDT
Alls I know is you can cut one into 3 pieces and it will still fire, now thats reliability.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:42:20 PM EDT
The rollmark still looks like sea urchins fucking.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:45:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gunwritr:
Originally Posted By Evil_ATF:
Haven't earned anything back from me.


Same here.......

This...
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:48:54 PM EDT
How many people panicked and actually paid those high prices?
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:51:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By tweeter:
Originally Posted By Willmar:
Hey, don't look at me. I don't own a Spikes product...


Don' t look at me either, I sold my Spike's shit. At a heavy discount.

I have a long memory when it comes to chicanery aimed at my wallet.


Does not compute.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:51:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Evil_ATF:
Haven't earned anything back from me.


Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:52:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2010 7:52:42 PM EDT by Truth2882]
I got tired of waiting for them to get some Uppers in after countless pushbacks and lies,so I went with BCM instead.So glad I went with BCM
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:55:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cmeyer001:
Ruger... "Firearms for responsible citizens..." the slogan that came out before they made black guns...

Implying that anyone with a black gun, or more than 10 rounds, was somehow irresponsible? Screw Ruger...


Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:55:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2010 7:57:03 PM EDT by cbsaf]
Bravo Company makes better rifles and uppers at a competative price. CMMG of all people makes a better .22lr upper and kit. Spikes still makes a decent product but they saw an opportunity to make money and did. I can't really blame them.

Bravo Company didn't jack up prices. They simply accepted the fact that they were going to sell out of certain items by selling them at a normal price and restocked them the best they could. They won over customers that way and it was a better way to deal with supply and demand. Sometimes earning respect is better than making a few quick bucks as there is already a poster or two in this thread that will not be a steady customer of Spikes anymore.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:55:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VacaDuck:

Originally Posted By Skg_Mre_Lght:

Originally Posted By Ridge_Runner_5:

Well Ruger, in addition to lobbying his company's freedom of the AWB, just makes shitty guns




Ruger continues to make some of the best revolvers on the market. And while their semi auto's are a bit on the hefty side, they go bang every time. Ruger shotguns are among the best at their price points and the Modell 77 is a damn fine bolt action.
Internet gun ninjas can, and will denigrate every firearm and accessory ever made.

Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:57:47 PM EDT
So, if someone raises their prices, you get mad? I would just look for something else at a price more to my liking.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:58:15 PM EDT
They have good marketing and sucker people in. I am not a fan because of a bad experience I had with them. On the EE they had their buffer for a decent price and I went to get it on their site and shipping was about half of what the buffer cost. There were dozens of people who said the same thing and Spikes said they changed the cost of shipping and after several weeks of waiting for them to change shipping costs to a reasonable price I just gave up and got an H2 from Bravo
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:58:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2010 8:01:27 PM EDT by BobRoberts]

Originally Posted By itsARanchrifle:
Originally Posted By KalihiJack:
Originally Posted By BobRoberts:
Spike lost ever bit of credibility with me for the shit they pulled in the IAHTF.


What was that?


This.
Essentially, there was IAHTF member that started a thread about a non-functioning .22 upper from spikes. It turned into a anti-spikes thread,multiple member had issues with their dedicated uppers. In the course of the exchange, a member brought the case of friend that had submitted an improved component for their dedicated 22 bolt and said Spikes had said the were going to buy it. (its been a year I can remember for sure what component exactly) Well instead they took the design and farmed it out to people that would make it cheaper. Spikes came into the thread denied the entire thing took place. Emails were posted showing otherwise, including one that said to the effect spike would be ordering from the machinist when their secretary came back from vacation. Spikes threatened legal action and the thread was nuked from orbit shortly after.

Thus I lost my respect for the company. Plus my free float rail from them is a POS


Link Posted: 9/5/2010 8:02:57 PM EDT
I did not pay much attention to them Pre obama but i heard they sold re packaged RRA with their logo on it .Might not be true just what i heard But i do know they put out a very good quality AR these days.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 8:03:56 PM EDT
I have read about what transpired after the 2008 elections. Im not happy about it. Im currently in the market for a new high quality AR. The bottom line is Spikes puts out high quality stuff at a low price and I don't have enough extra cash to hold a grudge over a business decision.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 8:06:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Znak:
Meh, I like Spikes.

I like their customer service and relatively low prices.

Whatever happened 2 years ago doesn't apply to now except to whiners that don't have their cheese.

Seriously, if they raise prices up again like you all said they did, you know what I'll do? I'll grudgingly buy their product and complain for 2+ years!
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 8:08:45 PM EDT
i think they are going to be in trouble soon .they went full retard leasing or buying alot of bling during the high times,still waiting to see there new sand rail
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 8:08:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2010 8:10:05 PM EDT by junkxp]
Originally Posted By nobodyg17:
Originally Posted By tweeter:
Originally Posted By Willmar:
Hey, don't look at me. I don't own a Spikes product...


Don' t look at me either, I sold my Spike's shit. At a heavy discount.

I have a long memory when it comes to chicanery aimed at my wallet.


Does not compute.


He remembers when people try to jack up their damn prices to screw their customers...?

I'll be glad to buy another of what i have with the spikes roll mark, It just wont say spikes.

Link Posted: 9/5/2010 8:09:29 PM EDT
Bravo makes a better product for a better price.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 8:11:58 PM EDT
This shit is getting really old.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 8:18:36 PM EDT
Anybody who get's the douche nozzle's panties in a wad at the 'other' forum like Spikes does is ok in my book!
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 8:21:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By UBB:
Anybody who get's the douche nozzle's panties in a wad at the 'other' forum like Spikes does is ok in my book!

There's another forum?
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 8:22:56 PM EDT
Not this again.
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