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Posted: 10/25/2010 6:53:23 PM EDT
So on another board this guy is asking what to get a AK, AR or M1A, he wants one rifle, so I chime in go with the AR platform, and its off and running, this guy tells me ANY out of the box Sendero will out shoot ANY AR based rifle. Than he site all the records are held by bolt guns, and if the AR platform was so good why does the military still use the M21? Jesus, how do you get a point accross to someone really wanting help, when theres a dumb shit spewing bullshit?
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 6:55:40 PM EDT
Opinions are like assholes.

Everybody has one and most of them stink.
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 6:56:49 PM EDT
look at you arguing on the internet. go get him!
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 6:57:03 PM EDT
Meh, if I only could have one rifle it would be an AR...but I dont necessarily see it as my duty to convince other people on the internet. The guy asking the question may just need to go buy a 700 and then eventually he'll learn that not only can it not do everything, but also the valuable lesson that the internet is full of ignorant loudmouth assholes.
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 6:57:07 PM EDT


It's the Internet, don't take it personally....





Link Posted: 10/25/2010 6:57:40 PM EDT

Trolls are only successful when you respond to them.

Ignoring them drives em up the wall.

Link Posted: 10/25/2010 7:01:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By myitinaw:


It's the Internet, don't take it personally....







Not taking it personally, just how do you give someone sound advice when you have a dumbass going off? The way the guy asked the question, he had ruled out the AK,and was down to a M1A or AR, all I did was point out that a AR was more accurate, he had been told the AR fills the reciever with unused propellant and required more complex cleaning, so I pointed out it really didnt, and once you get a routine, its easy to clean, no worse than a M1A. I guess I'm venting kinda wanting to put the bolt gun guy in his place......LOL
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 7:01:55 PM EDT
ARs don't go off when you touch the safety.
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 7:02:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mstennes:
So on another board this guy is asking what to get a AK, AR or M1A, he wants one rifle, so I chime in go with the AR platform, and its off and running, this guy tells me ANY out of the box Sendero will out shoot ANY AR based rifle. Than he site all the records are held by bolt guns, and if the AR platform was so good why does the military still use the M21? Jesus, how do you get a point accross to someone really wanting help, when theres a dumb shit spewing bullshit?


You should totally bash him because it is not the M21 that he is referring to, the M24 or M40. The M21 is the semi-auto M14 based rifle.
The M24/M40 is the Remington-based rifle.

Link Posted: 10/25/2010 7:02:41 PM EDT
AK>AR
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 7:03:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By blackeye:

Trolls are only successful when you respond to them.

Ignoring them drives em up the wall.



Its on another board (thumper talk), guy wanted help, I think his mind was made up, but had heard some of those gun store stories.
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 7:04:52 PM EDT
Comparing a Sendero to an AR is akin to comparing a shovel to a rake; Great tools for different purposes, but no good at the task of the other.

Yes, I own both.
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 7:05:18 PM EDT
What's a sendero?
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 7:11:13 PM EDT
Heavier barreled Remington 700 with kind of a bench type stock. Chambered in 300 and 7mm Mag
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 7:12:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By retgarr:
What's a sendero?


The most accurate gun in the world.






Link Posted: 10/25/2010 7:12:40 PM EDT
I hate to tell him but I watched an AR based rifle win a 1k match at Oak Ridge, TN last year shooting against some world class competition bolt action rifles. I think he was single loading 80 or 90 grain Berger VLDs. Now his barrel was 26" but he said any AR based rifle.

I also know of a guy who builds space guns based on ARs that can and will shoot quarter moa.

PoPo

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Link Posted: 10/25/2010 7:14:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/25/2010 7:15:18 PM EDT by Drewcoolness]
put him against an OBR. I heard those are kinda accurate
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 7:16:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Drewcoolness:
put him against an OBR. I heard those are kinda accurate


Wow, i had the same thing in mind.
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 7:19:00 PM EDT
Sounds like a job for Old_Painless...
Link Posted: 10/25/2010 7:29:35 PM EDT
Well, I know that the Godfather of AR gunsmithing Bill Wylde and John Feamster have shot Benchrest with AR's. Both IIRC have Official Screamer shot group certification at 200 yards. Not shabby for a gas gun to keep up almost with the epitome of bolt actions - Benchrest actions are works of art!!!!!!!

Benchrest Official Screamer group sizes.
100yds
5 shot group––.099
10 shot group––.199

200yds
5 shot group––.250
10 shot group––.449

300yds
5 shot group––.450
10 shot group––.699
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 6:54:58 AM EDT
Thanks guys, I dont know why this one got under my skin, but it did? Maybe because I owned a Sendero, before I bought my XCR and knows how it shoots?
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 7:11:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By B-1BMRSP:
Originally Posted By retgarr:
What's a sendero?


The most accurate gun in the world.








Which is not unlike the Dacia Sandero.

Which is the most anticipated car...



...




...




...in the world.
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 7:14:32 AM EDT
What is the Sendero chambered in?
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 7:16:52 AM EDT
benchrest guns are shite, its not even shooting at that point
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 7:20:42 AM EDT
Don't tell all those guys carrying the M-110 that it's not accurate...

Link Posted: 10/26/2010 7:27:02 AM EDT
The guy is obviously a Sith
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 7:51:26 AM EDT
Originally Posted By eodtech2000:
Well, I know that the Godfather of AR gunsmithing Bill Wylde and John Feamster have shot Benchrest with AR's. Both IIRC have Official Screamer shot group certification at 200 yards. Not shabby for a gas gun to keep up almost with the epitome of bolt actions - Benchrest actions are works of art!!!!!!!

Benchrest Official Screamer group sizes.
100yds
5 shot group––.099
10 shot group––.199

200yds
5 shot group––.250
10 shot group––.449

300yds
5 shot group––.450
10 shot group––.699



That would be some amazing shit to see!
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 7:55:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TrojanMan:
Originally Posted By B-1BMRSP:
Originally Posted By retgarr:
What's a sendero?


The most accurate gun in the world.





Which is not unlike the Dacia Sandero.

Which is the most anticipated car...



...

...

...in the world.


Yes...... IN The World.



I heard the voice too.

Link Posted: 10/26/2010 7:55:12 AM EDT
Than he site all the records are held by bolt guns
Then "cites that"or "cited the fact that"
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 11:56:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/26/2010 11:57:12 AM EDT by mstennes]
Still going, now it also about how inadiquate and inhumane the 223 round is for hunting deer, never mind that many deer are shot with large calibers only to go off and die somewhere else. IDIOTS!!!!!

Edited to add, FUDDS!
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 12:01:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/26/2010 12:02:39 PM EDT by Drewcoolness]
That's horseshit. It's isn't humane when the fucker with the gun can't shoot worth a shit. But that's true with any caliber. You also need to point out that AR's come in A LOT of other calibers besides .223.
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 12:39:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Drewcoolness:
That's horseshit. It's isn't humane when the fucker with the gun can't shoot worth a shit. But that's true with any caliber. You also need to point out that AR's come in A LOT of other calibers besides .223.


I did, and one guy is talking about how if you get a AR get it in 6.8, no other calibers....WTF
Link Posted: 10/26/2010 12:42:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 70satvert:
AK>AR


OMG!!! NO YOU DIDN'T
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