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Posted: 9/18/2009 11:48:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/18/2009 4:54:14 PM EST by substandard]
and by unique you could say butt ugly.

Area police dept. shut down an undocumented pharmacist with 4.5 pounds of "California tobacco" a year or so ago. The PD seized a shotgun in the raid and wanted to sell it to help raise money for a drug dog. So they brought the shotgun in and ..

Techno Arms Mag-7 M1, looks like the bastard child from a night of drunken sex between an Uzi and a pump shotgun It shoots 2.25" (yes two and a quater inch) 12 gauge shells that feed from a magazine in the pistol grip. Don't have a picture but here is a link with info and an image....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAG-7
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 11:49:58 AM EST
That's pretty fugly.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 11:50:46 AM EST
What's the asking price on something like that?

And selling confiscated weapons? What about the children?
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 11:51:14 AM EST
It is certainly ugly.

And it fires a proprietary 12 gauge round?


No thanks...
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 11:52:01 AM EST
They might have better luck selling the weed....
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 11:52:26 AM EST
Techno Arms lol
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 11:52:33 AM EST
They are cheap. Saw one go for $250 recently. It's a terrible design in civilian form, but it's definitely unique.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 11:53:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By ch1966:
They might have better luck selling the weed....

That is how they bought the K-9 cruiser, now they need the dog to fill it.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 11:54:19 AM EST
Looks like an Uzi that was hitting the steroids too much!
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 11:55:24 AM EST
Kinda different. If nothing else you could show it to your friends or something
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 11:55:54 AM EST
The sporting version of the Mag-7 has a really gay stock (though if you go to some trouble, you can find the top-folding stock for it), but otherwise it's a pretty cool shotgun, especially if you SBS it.

Yes, it shoots a shorter than normal 12-gauge shell. Ammo is hard to come by in the US. Aguila mini-shells work in it, though the magazine doesn't like to feed them sometimes.

I always wanted a Mag-7 so I could SBS it and get the folding stock.

Always wanted a Neostead NS-2000 too.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 2:48:44 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 2:56:19 PM EST
Todays a good day for the hi point carbine.


No longer the ugliest
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 2:58:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By ch1966:
They might have better luck selling the weed....


Werd. I can't see paying money for that.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 2:59:51 PM EST
I'd buy one, just to have.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:01:16 PM EST
$3.......
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:01:51 PM EST
I'd never seen one before last Monday when I saw the abomination on a local sporting goods store "used" rack. I see that the Wiki article has been updated since then. It used to say that the POS has a 17 lb trigger pull.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:02:44 PM EST
A lot of the distributors were selling those about 5 years ago and then they disappeared from the market.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:03:17 PM EST
Funny,I have one sitting in my safe, I've had since I was an FFL 5 or 6 years ago. Some one brought it in and I took it as a trade. The guy bought it and never was able to find ammo for it so therefore never fired it. I've never fired it either. Ugly as sin and clunky as hell in the civilian form
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:10:08 PM EST
I think they must make a 20 ga. pistol version also, I saw it on a COPS episode a few years ago
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:16:53 PM EST
I'm pretty sure a team member here has one, can't remember who though.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:23:38 PM EST
I remember when AIM couldnt give those away.

Kharn
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:29:35 PM EST
I remember the shop I worked in having one. Got it as some kind of promotional deal with one of our distributors. It sat on the shelf for nearly a year. If I remember right the owner told me to do whatever I could to get rid of it. Took in a new condition .30-30 Winchester 94. Got $50 bucks to boot if I remember right! Spot on about it being ugly. As I recall the pump action was like a Win. Model 12. You had to bump the slide forward a little before pulling it backward.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:34:12 PM EST
The good news is that two boxes of shells came with the gun. They are number 6 loads from Great Britain, can't recall the name right now. I may have to take it out this weekend and do a "FUNction test" you know, to make sure it is in good condition.

We discussed making it into a short barrel shotgun for under the store counter but decided against it. Several things going against it:

1. specialty ammo
2. The grip is literally like holding a 2x4 board
3. The overall quality is lacking, some of the welds look like they were done in a cave by a blind 110 year old man
4. The action just plain sucks. It is hard to cycle the slide and you must use a large amount of force to get the bolt to lock on the return stroke

Just doesn't make sense to waste $200 on a tax stamp to make it a SBS. For $200 I would go with a Browning Auto-5....

The trigger pull is decent for a pump shotgun, but the ergonomics sucks balls. As already mentioned the pistol grip is way to large to hold comfortably, the safety is a AK-47 style lever mounted on the left side of the frame. It can't be released without changing your grip position. The bolt release is a button that sits right above the safety, you don't push the button IN, instead you push the button head downward to release the bolt. The stock just doesn't feel right when shouldered, the gun just feels completely unbalanced no matter how you try to hold it.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:40:01 PM EST
Oh ya thats ugly. You own a pawn shop or something?
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:46:16 PM EST
Originally Posted By bclark1:
What's the asking price on something like that?

And selling confiscated weapons? What about the children?


Rather funny that you asked that...

It was a high ranking member of the PD that brought the shotgun in, and he told us they had destroyed several guns earlier this month. He told us he just hated to see the guns be destroyed like that, but the PD technically didn't own them so the PD couldn't sell them. (It is truly great to live in a midwestern red state, even our police officials are pro-gun )

This shotgun was seized by the police in a drug raid, and as such, became police property that could be sold. Most guns are from crime scenes or suicides and are not considered police property and can not be sold. At least that is how the officer explained it to us.

Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:46:22 PM EST
every gun is beautiful in its own way
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:47:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By Raztag:
Oh ya thats ugly. You own a pawn shop or something?



or something... It is a gun shop
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:49:11 PM EST
I remember those being sold years ago on Southern Ohio Gun's website.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:49:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By ch1966:
They might have better luck selling the weed....



Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:50:56 PM EST
I wonder if it would feed Aguila mini shells? Might be a pretty fun turtle killer.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 3:51:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/18/2009 3:57:47 PM EST by monkeyman]
I had one of those. Got it directly from SOG. I used the short Aguila mini shells in it and it worked pretty well. Pretty crude, and not the best quality but it was unique. Wasn't really good for anything that a conventional shotgun couldn't do better. It was more of a novelty and I rarely shot it. Finally got rid of it.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 4:19:22 PM EST
Ehhhh, what the hell, it's a firearm, I like it.

Link Posted: 9/18/2009 4:32:27 PM EST
Trade ya a Lorcin for it!
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 4:34:21 PM EST
Gunshop had one, after hearing about the trouble getting ammo I was not interested
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 4:35:43 PM EST
Originally Posted By substandard:
It shoots 2" (yes two inch) 12 gauge shells that feed from a magazine in the pistol grip.


Uh.....60 mm is 2 & 1/4" not 2"

Link Posted: 9/18/2009 4:54:57 PM EST
Originally Posted By Popo:
Originally Posted By substandard:
It shoots 2" (yes two inch) 12 gauge shells that feed from a magazine in the pistol grip.


Uh.....60 mm is 2 & 1/4" not 2"



Oops... you are correct. Thanks, i have corrected the first post.

Link Posted: 9/18/2009 5:01:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
The sporting version of the Mag-7 has a really gay stock (though if you go to some trouble, you can find the top-folding stock for it), but otherwise it's a pretty cool shotgun, especially if you SBS it.

Yes, it shoots a shorter than normal 12-gauge shell. Ammo is hard to come by in the US. Aguila mini-shells work in it, though the magazine doesn't like to feed them sometimes.

I always wanted a Mag-7 so I could SBS it and get the folding stock.

Always wanted a Neostead NS-2000 too.

The guy who developed the NS-2000 is the guy who designed the NTW-20.


Link Posted: 9/18/2009 5:21:45 PM EST
Originally Posted By Agrippa:
I remember those being sold years ago on Southern Ohio Gun's website.


CDNN had them in their catalog for a while, too.

It's not a gun you'll ever forget seeing!
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 5:23:43 PM EST

Hide the children!
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 5:57:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:

Always wanted a Neostead NS-2000 too.



Affirmative there Mr. Taco Cabana (no offense intended)!

You can put me down for yes on the Neostead pump gun as well!

Glad to see I'm not the only one who remembers reading about, and lusting after, that one.


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