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9/19/2017 7:27:10 PM
Posted: 11/7/2002 3:54:19 PM EDT
Browsing through DU, I found this reply. Someone help me pick this apart, cause this guy has over 7000 posts there and is probably one of there most "informed" aka retarded people. "Democrats don't need to move left. The Republicans are so afraid that the Democrats are going to start saying what they are because they know most Americans (and all the political middle) will realize that's what they're for. The Republicans two-prong strategy is to control the media so that Republicans can tell America lies about what the Democrats are, and to push the Democrats to the left so that they fight with Greens and leave the middle to Republicans. Once again, there's nothing radical about the Democratic message. Democrats want national health care because it will make everyone richer. Democrats want well-regulated marketplaces because fair competition on a level playing field makes everyone richer. The Democrats want progressive taxation because it's the only way we're going to create a competitive economy which will be able to compete with Europe, which will make everyone richer. This isn't radical. It's common sense."
Link Posted: 11/7/2002 4:04:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/7/2002 4:05:59 PM EDT by MillerSHO]
First of all, the demo's have media control as far as I see, it seems everyone on TV leans left. National health care? How is that going to make us richer!? I go to work and I get health care, what's so poor about that? How is Europe doing better then us econemy wise? All I hear in europe is them talking shit about america's, all the while, listening to our music, wearing our cloths, etc etc etc etc. This guy sounds like a total hyprocryte! He keeps talking about how the demo party is for the good of the people as a whole because we will all be richer. Isn't that their arguemnt agaist Repub's? They are for the rich and corporations. So it comes down to money for the demo's too, but of course there better for the people as a whole. [rolleyes] I'm sorry, but there will always be class segrigation, there will always be economic rollor coasters, there will always be people that want to kill, etc etc etc etc etc. Why do I even bother preaching to the choir about this socialistic group. BTW, for those that haven't browsed DU in the last few days, you really should. Most are finally giving in and admitting their agenda's are flawed and their leadership is garbage. It really is a beautiful thing!! [:D]
Link Posted: 11/7/2002 4:06:58 PM EDT
If you dont want to have to make another account with the DU i would leave it alone. Picking him apart is only going to get you a tombstone.
Link Posted: 11/7/2002 4:14:59 PM EDT
In other words, Democrats want direct control over peoples' lives--from what doctor they go to, to how much money they make, to where they shop, what they buy, and whom they worship. Democrats do not wish to uplift, but to pull down. Even in the most "equal" society, there will be those who must remain above the masses in order to ensure the "equality" of everone else. Read "Harrison Bergeron" by Kurt Vonnegut.
Link Posted: 11/7/2002 4:16:53 PM EDT
If members of the DU feel the press is supporting Republicans, then I am scared sh*tless of them. Damn, the press is already to the Left of Center. If the DU feels the press is Right wing, then they (DU) are so far to the left that they must be on a different planet. So what does that mean to us? 1) No guns 2) Everyone must turn gay 3) Reverse Michael Jackson treatment to be more minority like. 4) Nobody works 5) Welfare for everybody 6) No free speech (might offend) 7) Spend all day long apologizing to Muslims 8) We starve to feed the world 9) No cars to save the environment 10) No English in schools, but Swahili is OK 11) No toilet paper to save trees Hell, count me out. This election was the best thing to happen in a long time!
Link Posted: 11/7/2002 4:23:41 PM EDT
you have any idea how long you have to wait for stuff under socialized medicine ? ive heard upto and over 2 years.
Link Posted: 11/7/2002 4:34:21 PM EDT
The Democrats want progressive taxation because it's the only way we're going to create a competitive economy which will be able to compete with Europe, which will make everyone richer.
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That is sweet. I can't believe that makes sense to any human alive. 1. Europe sucks and is still driven a lot by us (not to mention protected) 2. How is giving my money to someone else going to make me richer? Sorry, I do not look at gross wages as a factor in wealth, I look at net wages. 3. How much richer is ANY country with taxes more "progressive" than ours? Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
Link Posted: 11/7/2002 8:51:20 PM EDT
you have any idea how long you have to wait for stuff under socialized medicine ? I've heard up to and over 2 years.
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I just heard on Boortz the other day a comparison between getting an MRI here in the states Vs getting one in the Socialized Medicine paradise of Canada. Lets say I blew out my knee tomorrow and the Orthopedist wanted an MRI done to get a good idea as to what the damage was. If I were in the US I could go some where and get one in a matter or hours maybe a day at most. If I were Canadian........16 weeks!!!!!
Link Posted: 11/7/2002 10:26:25 PM EDT
EXACTLY! my mom is in the medical field, so I hear about what would happen all the time...i mean even now, just the govt regulations make her hate what she does, but only a few more years till she retires.
Link Posted: 11/7/2002 10:38:49 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/7/2002 11:03:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed: For a good description of what Socialism/Communism does to a country, read "MiG Pilot". It's by the pilot who defected to Japan in 1975 with his MiG25. quote] Heh.. The guy who was arrested for defecting because he had his service weapon (Japan is the most rabidly anti-gun country in the world)... Probably an interesting read...
Link Posted: 11/7/2002 11:26:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed: For a good description of what Socialism/Communism does to a country, read "MiG Pilot". It's by the pilot who defected to Japan in 1975 with his MiG25. All through the book, he paints a vivid word picture of the true state of Communism. One thing that jumped out at me, was that every harvest was a national project/emergency. Every man, woman and child was called up to pick corn, etc. It was like this every year, year after year. Nobody ever made plans to streamline the harvest or reduce the acreage that had to be harvested. Because there never were enough crop-pickers, acres and acres and acres of food just sat there and rotted away. Then the Soviet Union had to import food from the UNITED STATES because people were starving. This is the life under Communism. Don't let it happen to us!
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Actually, they didn't "import" food, we payed to ship it to them. We gave the food to them and payed for the shipping because we knew that a bad year for them could mean an invasion of Western Europe. The most ironic thing about it is that the Russian plain is perhaps the most fertile area on the planet, presenting an area of arable land that is significantly larger in size than the Great Plains in the United States. But your overall point is correct. The nannystate that the Communist/Socialists want for this nation will result in the same thing. I don't quite get why this guy thinks taxing the people who have the most captial investment money will make our economy stronger. I also don't get how he thinks we need to compete with Europe. Last I checked, they were converging into the EU because they couldn't compete internationally.
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