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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:36:45 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 7:38:47 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/1/2015 7:38:52 AM EDT
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don't believe the hype.  in another thread it was mentioned how one was started by lightning and another by a failed power line.  they want everyone to believe that every fire is arson
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 7:39:32 AM EDT
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And that black waitress found a racial slur on the receipt too.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 7:41:13 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/1/2015 7:44:19 AM EDT
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My money says it is being done by the Nation of Islam in an attempt to incite hatred and violence against white people.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 7:46:52 AM EDT
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Until I see independent evidence, I will find it hard to doubt you.
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"Southern Poverty Law Center..."
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Whenever these fuckwads are involved my spidey-sense is maxed out...!





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Inconceivable, they are a peaceful bunch.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 7:48:22 AM EDT
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Insurance money.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 7:51:25 AM EDT
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My money says it is being done by the Nation of Islam in an attempt to incite hatred and violence against white people.

Until I see independent evidence, I will find it hard to doubt you.


I am not saying I agree with you, but an awful lot of people's interests are served by claiming racism.  Isn't it odd that this sudden spate of church burning is occurring in the run up to the 2016 election?
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 7:51:29 AM EDT
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Insurance money.
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BOOM

 
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 7:52:22 AM EDT
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Whoever's burning down those churches needs to be under the jail, whether it's the Klan or Black agents provocateurs.
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Link Posted: 7/1/2015 7:54:50 AM EDT
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Dude, she kidnapped herself.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 7:55:39 AM EDT
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I don't know about that, but I'm leaning towards it NOT being done by the folks the media want you to think is doing it.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 7:57:26 AM EDT
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Insurance money.
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and checks from Obama.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 7:58:18 AM EDT
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and checks from Obama.
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Insurance money.


and checks from Obama.


It's the best way to book Black Jesus for a Sunday Sermon.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:02:29 AM EDT
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Didn't investigation reveal something about all of the black burnt churches in the 1990's being started, for the most part, by either minors or parishioners? Know that was the case for one church in Ferguson...
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:04:46 AM EDT
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Dude, she kidnapped herself.
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You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:05:13 AM EDT
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Never been done before.





From 2002:
- An average of 1,300 church fires are reported each year, causeing $38 million in property loss.





- The leading cause of church fires is arson (25%).





- 30% of church fires are the result of mechanical failures.  Faulty wiring and improperly functioning heating systems are often at fault, perhaps because they are in older structures and have not been brought up to local fire codes.





- Of churches that reported fires, 65% had no smoke alarms and 96% had no sprinkler systems.





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http://nfa.usfa.dhs.gov/downloads/pdf/statistics/v2i7-508.pdf





From 1996:


Last week, the Justice Department claimed 243 arsons since 1990, both
white and black; this week the department plans to revise the figure to
297, sources say. An Associate Press survey found 409 burnings. In
Texas, according to USA Today, there were 20 fires involving white
churches; 11 involving black since 1995.

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Moreover, the limited
number of arrest profiles and motives for black church burning show a
diverse picture of teenage drunks, disaffected loners, blacks, even a
volunteer fireman in Texas - along with hard-core racists like two
members of the Christian Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, charged on May 10
for burning a black church in Greeleyville, S.C.





One statistic is
clear: Church arson in the US has dropped every year but one in the past
decade, according to National Fire Protection Association (NFPA)
statistics. The number of reported suspicious fires in churches or
related property in 1986 was 1,060; in 1994 the figure was 520.





The
lack of evidence of a systematic attack on black churches, the number
of white churches burned, and the decrease in arson, have led to charges
of racial grandstanding, some say....






http://www.csmonitor.com/1996/0710/071096.us.us.2.html



It would be interesting to see how many NON-black churches have been burned in the same time period.







 
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:07:04 AM EDT
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God is white, electricity is white so it can only mean one thing, arson!
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:07:18 AM EDT
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Insurance money.




and checks from Obama.


Yep, when the winds are at your back, make a break for gold.



 
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:07:49 AM EDT
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http://townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2015/07/01/fanning-the-flames-of-another-black-church-arson-hoax-n2019762
Fanning the Flames of Another Black Church Arson Hoax


On Monday, a Baltimore Sun lead editorial decried "a series of mysterious fires at African-American churches across the South" in the wake of the Charleston murders. The newspaper cited a "pattern" of attacks, including what it claimed was an "uptick in attacks on 37 black churches in the South" in the 1990s that "prompted President Bill Clinton to set up a church-arson investigative task force."

The Sun neglected to mention that Clinton had falsely claimed at the time that he had "vivid and painful memories of black churches being burned in my own state when I was a child"-- an assertion immediately debunked by the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette.

The Sun also neglected to mention that the manufactured media coverage that launched the 1990s black church arson juggernaut, fueled by former USA Today reporter Gary Fields' 61 fear-mongering stories, fell apart under scrutiny. Fields' own employer was forced to admit that "analysis of the 64 fires since 1995 shows only four can be conclusively shown to be racially motivated."
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Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:10:18 AM EDT
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"Several have been blamed preliminarily on lightning; weather in the South this week has been turbulent."

It sounds like God is trying to tell them something.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:13:55 AM EDT
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I give that about an 87% chance being the truth behind all this.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:15:19 AM EDT
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natural causes.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:18:09 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:18:12 AM EDT
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Never been done before.

From 2002:


http://nfa.usfa.dhs.gov/downloads/pdf/statistics/v2i7-508.pdf


 
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Never been done before.

From 2002:

- An average of 1,300 church fires are reported each year, causeing $38 million in property loss.

- The leading cause of church fires is arson (25%).

- 30% of church fires are the result of mechanical failures.  Faulty wiring and improperly functioning heating systems are often at fault, perhaps because they are in older structures and have not been brought up to local fire codes.

- Of churches that reported fires, 65% had no smoke alarms and 96% had no sprinkler systems.


http://nfa.usfa.dhs.gov/downloads/pdf/statistics/v2i7-508.pdf


 


How can the leading cause be arson at 25% while 30% are mechanical failures?  My math may be a little rusty, but I was damn good at it back in the day.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:19:07 AM EDT
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Never been done before.

From 2002:


http://nfa.usfa.dhs.gov/downloads/pdf/statistics/v2i7-508.pdf

From 1996:


Moreover, the limited number of arrest profiles and motives for black church burning show a diverse picture of teenage drunks, disaffected loners, blacks, even a volunteer fireman in Texas - along with hard-core racists like two members of the Christian Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, charged on May 10 for burning a black church in Greeleyville, S.C.


One statistic is clear: Church arson in the US has dropped every year but one in the past decade, according to National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) statistics. The number of reported suspicious fires in churches or related property in 1986 was 1,060; in 1994 the figure was 520.


The lack of evidence of a systematic attack on black churches, the number of white churches burned, and the decrease in arson, have led to charges of racial grandstanding, some say....




http://www.csmonitor.com/1996/0710/071096.us.us.2.html

It would be interesting to see how many NON-black churches have been burned in the same time period.


 
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Never been done before.

From 2002:

- An average of 1,300 church fires are reported each year, causeing $38 million in property loss.

- The leading cause of church fires is arson (25%).

- 30% of church fires are the result of mechanical failures. Faulty wiring and improperly functioning heating systems are often at fault, perhaps because they are in older structures and have not been brought up to local fire codes.

- Of churches that reported fires, 65% had no smoke alarms and 96% had no sprinkler systems.


http://nfa.usfa.dhs.gov/downloads/pdf/statistics/v2i7-508.pdf

From 1996:

Last week, the Justice Department claimed 243 arsons since 1990, both white and black; this week the department plans to revise the figure to 297, sources say. An Associate Press survey found 409 burnings. In Texas, according to USA Today, there were 20 fires involving white churches; 11 involving black since 1995.

Moreover, the limited number of arrest profiles and motives for black church burning show a diverse picture of teenage drunks, disaffected loners, blacks, even a volunteer fireman in Texas - along with hard-core racists like two members of the Christian Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, charged on May 10 for burning a black church in Greeleyville, S.C.


One statistic is clear: Church arson in the US has dropped every year but one in the past decade, according to National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) statistics. The number of reported suspicious fires in churches or related property in 1986 was 1,060; in 1994 the figure was 520.


The lack of evidence of a systematic attack on black churches, the number of white churches burned, and the decrease in arson, have led to charges of racial grandstanding, some say....




http://www.csmonitor.com/1996/0710/071096.us.us.2.html

It would be interesting to see how many NON-black churches have been burned in the same time period.


 

Admittedly, I suck at math, but it appears to me that the leading cause of church fires is mechanical failure.

ETA: 55 seconds!
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:19:50 AM EDT
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Good chance.

Easy way to tell is by the amount of decent audio equipment in the debris.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:20:56 AM EDT
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lighting = act of God
God = white guy
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:21:38 AM EDT
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Whoever's burning down those churches needs to be under the jail, whether it's the Klan or Black agents provocateurs.

 



Agreed.
And it would not surprise me one bit if either groups mentioned were not involved.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:23:18 AM EDT
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Insurance scam is my guess.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:25:29 AM EDT
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You want to start a race war? Burn a bunch of your own churches and make it look like whitey done did something.

I’m going with that or the Islam theory .
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:38:32 AM EDT
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In this case it's blaming the victim. Better to express your anger to all the talking heads, but they have security, and cameras, so it's easier to torch a church.

While one could hope it would reinforce the fact that people (regardless of factor) seed to provide for their own defense, watch it get twisted to work against anyone not hopping on the bandwagon.

ETA - news said 2 fires were being looked at as incendiary.
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In this case it's blaming the victim. Better to express your anger to all the talking heads, but they have security, and cameras, so it's easier to torch a church.

While one could hope it would reinforce the fact that people (regardless of factor) seed to provide for their own defense, watch it get twisted to work against anyone not hopping on the bandwagon.

ETA - news said 2 fires were being looked at as incendiary.



Last big string of church burnings I'm aware of were perpetrated by the victims...
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:41:30 AM EDT
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Thunderstorms be racis.
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Inconceivable, they are a peaceful bunch.
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Inconceivable, they are a peaceful bunch.



ETA - It's election season.  I'm suspicious this is the ol' "Elect Republicans and black churches burn" play.  Doesn't matter what the actual cause is - lightning, bad wiring, carelessness with candles, or arson.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:44:29 AM EDT
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Hail Odin!!!
Oops, wrong country, 20+ years too late, and the wrong kind of Blackness.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:44:40 AM EDT
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it can't be the KKK they simply are not that smart, anyone that knows democrats can tell you that. Now the Southern Black Church has taken a stand against gay marriage.



the gays did it
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Someone are getting pissed....... 8 black churches burnt in 10 days.
 
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Really? "Someone ARE getting pissed..."

Sounds like someone is already pissed.




English, it's a motherfucker.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:48:02 AM EDT
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I blame gays emboldened by the recent SCOTUS ruling getting payback for black church's historical resistance to gay rights

Edit: great minds, Coldair
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  Really? "Someone ARE getting pissed..."

Sounds like someone is already pissed.





English, it's a motherfucker.

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Someone are getting pissed....... 8 black churches burnt in 10 days.
 


  Really? "Someone ARE getting pissed..."

Sounds like someone is already pissed.





English, it's a motherfucker.



Give him a break. I mean, he was raised by wolves after all.



 
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:48:44 AM EDT
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I don't know about that, but I'm leaning towards it NOT being done by the folks the media want you to think is doing it.
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My money says it is being done by the Nation of Islam in an attempt to incite hatred and violence against white people.


I don't know about that, but I'm leaning towards it NOT being done by the folks the media want you to think is doing it.

Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:49:53 AM EDT
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My money is on a small group of racist idiots and a few black panther idiot burning black churchs too.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:52:45 AM EDT
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Sharpton
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Whenever these fuckwads are involved my spidey-sense is maxed out...!

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"Southern Poverty Law Center..."



Whenever these fuckwads are involved my spidey-sense is maxed out...!



it ought to be.
they're a bunch of thinly veiled communist agitators.
Link Posted: 7/1/2015 8:57:23 AM EDT
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God is white, electricity is white so it can only mean one thing, arson!
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don't believe the hype.  in another thread it was mentioned how one was started by lightning and another by a failed power line.  they want everyone to believe that every fire is arson


God is white, electricity is white so it can only mean one thing, arson!


it's the white man's electricity doing it.
white devil technology; you don't see this happening in Mother Africa.
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God hates black people.  God loves the Confederacy.  It's the only explanation when its acts of God burning down his own home.
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Completely agree.  I have serious doubts as to this being done by supremacists.

Either way the perps need to be gutted and left to feed the buzzards.
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it's the white man's electricity doing it.
white devil technology; you don't see this happening in Mother Africa.
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don't believe the hype.  in another thread it was mentioned how one was started by lightning and another by a failed power line.  they want everyone to believe that every fire is arson


God is white, electricity is white so it can only mean one thing, arson!


it's the white man's electricity doing it.
white devil technology; you don't see this happening in Mother Africa.



Well, to be fair you also don't see a lot of buildings in Africa that could burn down.


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