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Posted: 10/11/2004 3:34:09 PM EST
This area south of San Jose used to be all wild land, then the vineyards moved in, then the vineyards sold off their land to developers because it was worth more than they could ever earn growing grapes. Now these idiots are bitching that there is wild life on THEIR land. Sheesh

www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/9883467.htm?1c

Almaden too close to nature for comfort

S.J. RESIDENTS ON EDGE AMID PLAGUES OF COYOTES, BOARS

By Patrick May

Mercury News

The reports from Almaden Valley are alarming. Coyotes stalking little kids in gated townhouse communities. Sharp-tusked wild pigs rototilling the lawns of million-dollar estates. Foxes, skunks and bobcats turning this suburban paradise into San Jose's own little Wild Kingdom.

``I get up in the middle of the night and peek through my window to see what's out there,'' said Rosemary Gardner, whose enclave of custom-built homes has been terrorized lately by what she describes as marauding wild pigs. ``First we had wild turkeys, but they were scared away by the pigs. These guys with horns, they're out for blood.''

Nowhere is the urban-rural battle more heated than at the Villas of Almaden, the self-described ``welcome retreat from the fast pace of Silicon Valley.'' Last week, nervous residents unsuccessfully lobbied the city for help in trapping a pack of coyotes that have reportedly devoured 25 family cats, attacked a leashed dog and even shadowed grandparents taking their grandchild for a stroll.

Panic is in the air.

``Coyotes have been spotted outside people's garages, waiting for them to take their dogs for a walk,'' said retiree Arthur Woodward, who moved to the Villas 10 years ago because he found it an ``oasis in the middle of a metropolitan area.''

But ever since coyotes moved in, he won't let his cat Boots roam outside alone.

``I've been approached by a coyote walking down this street in the middle of the day,'' Woodward said as he hosed down his driveway and shouted at a driver to obey the 15 mph speed limit. ``They've chosen to move into an urbanized environment, but if we want to prevent a tragedy, a solution must be found.''

None seems close at hand. The city council voted against allowing the use of padded-steel leg traps to catch and then euthanize the coyotes. Some officials blamed residents for feeding the birds which drop the birdseed which attracts the deer which draws the coyotes. Wildlife activists advocated gentler approaches to booting the coyotes, like having the Villas' pets spayed or neutered and even sprinkling cayenne pepper on the ground.

Meanwhile, hysteria is gathering.

``We'll end up doing nothing until a catastrophe takes place,'' said Yvonne James, chairwoman of the landscape committee for the 192-home complex atop the wooded hills at Meridian Avenue and Coleman Road. ``The coyotes have established themselves here and are becoming very friendly and forward -- well, at least they're forward.''

Like many of her neighbors, James sees no end in sight to their wildlife woes.

``I'd like to be hopeful, but the coyotes won't just pack up and leave. . . . As far as I'm concerned, they can start paying association fees.''

Residents move into these townhouses, some valued as high as $950,000, in part because of the abundance of birds, squirrels and deer, some of them featured on the development's Web site. Villas resident Stanford ``Stony'' Crane, chief technology officer at a Silicon Valley firm, said he bought here ``because I could stand on my porch and watch deer and hawks and wild turkeys. We had 200 geese on this block a while ago; it was hilarious.''

``Unfortunately, predators are the next logical step,'' he said, ``and you need to maintain a balance and find a way to gently remove them.''

The irony, of course, is that you can't simply turn down nature if it gets too hot. Kriss Costa, community resource specialist for the Santa Clara County Vector Control District, said although residents ``are not necessarily in the coyotes' habitat, the coyote will adapt if there is food readily available.''

As long as there are coyotes in the nearby hills, humans occasionally will have to deal with them in their yards.

``We need to modify the behavior of the humans,'' Costa said. ``Someone is feeding feral cats in there, so there's both cat food and cats for the coyote to feed on. It's not just the deer they're after -- if you were going to chase a cat or a deer for food, which one would you go after?''

Some Villas residents, however, say they've already tried cutting off the coyotes' food supply and now it's time to take off the gloves. ``I don't see anything wrong with using traps because the coyotes are invading our privacy,'' Nancy Rowe said. ``I love wildlife. Just not too much wildlife.''

Both humorous and hair-raising tales abound of stand-offs and showdowns. ``One resident was stalked by a coyote while walking her dog, Mac,'' James said, ``and she ran all the way back to her house. . . . But the coyote still came right up to the garage because little Mac was edible and the coyote knew it.''

With no clear solution in sight, city officials are pushing education and the continued use of more humane box traps, even though the coyotes so far have proven too sly for that trick. Costa said authorities take seriously the threat coyotes pose. Referring to past attacks throughout the state, Costa said ``after pets, history has shown us, come children.''

Still, she said, beyond encouraging homeowners to eradicate food sources and hiding places for the coyotes, ``our hands are tied. We're investigating the use of snare traps, but we're trying to comply with the city's rules. And it's not just the Villas that are having problems. It's all over Almaden Valley.''

That's not what Gardner needs to hear right now.

``This is getting to be very scary,'' she said of her nightly visitors. ``It's like Almaden Valley is under attack.''
Contact Patrick May at pmay@ mercurynews.com or (408) 920-5689.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:38:44 PM EST
Those people would be the first to complain about hunters shooting varmits. Now the problem is in their front yard.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:39:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 3:41:05 PM EST by JHP]
I grew up in Almaden Valley in San Jose...we had pigs come down and root up our yard and coyotes always ate the neighbors' cats....

Shit happens....those people are just being pussies

I also knew that development...pretty expensive condos but there are nicer places.

The area is pretty close to Quicksilver Mines...if you go hiking back there you will almost always see pigs/pig damage and coyotes.


Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:44:25 PM EST
They need to bring in some archers to cull some of the critters.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:46:16 PM EST
The coyotes are native to Cali but some have interbred with feral dogs, creating a version that isn't as afraid of people as you'd like them to be.

The pigs are a mix of European wild boar deliberately introduced into central Cali in the 1920s and feral domesticated swine. They're a real terror. A few times in recent history the fish and game departments have declared OPEN SEASON on pigs. It makes for some great hunting opportunities.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:50:40 PM EST
What I don't understand is that the people ddont know what to do now that the County Board wont trap them. One of the Board members actually said that he takes the commandment "Thou shall not kill" literally and that it applies to Coyotes.

I mean damn...just shoot them people and keep quiet.

Sgatr15

PS Maybe you and I should do a road trip Rob, you got night vision right?


Sgtar15
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:59:12 PM EST

Originally Posted By passgas55:
Those people would be the first to complain about hunters shooting varmits. Now the problem is in their front yard.



+1

<­b>Day #14 awaiting on my Team Membership to be processed.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 4:00:16 PM EST
San Jose is the most wacked out place I've ever been to. This is coming from someone who used to hang out in Tokare, Korea.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 4:03:06 PM EST

Wildlife activists advocated gentler approaches to booting the coyotes, like having the Villas' pets spayed or neutered and even sprinkling cayenne pepper on the ground.




How dumb are these people? What will having their pets spayed or neutered help?? Color me fucking confused on that one.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 4:04:51 PM EST
Just goes to prove some people actually need socialism.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 10:28:02 PM EST
``We'll end up doing nothing until a catastrophe takes place,'' said Yvonne James, chairwoman of the landscape committee for the 192-home complex atop the wooded hills at Meridian Avenue and Coleman Road. ``The coyotes have established themselves here and are becoming very friendly and forward -- well, at least they're forward.''

Like many of her neighbors, James sees no end in sight to their wildlife woes.

``I'd like to be hopeful, but the coyotes won't just pack up and leave. . . . As far as I'm concerned, they can start paying association fees.''


I'm waiting for the "I'ld never move into an association tract" boys to jump in. This lady sounds like she might be a hoot, "start paying association fees" she's right, they aren't leaving anytime soon.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 10:36:09 PM EST
the same f*cking kind of people who's voting for sKeRry
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 10:57:22 PM EST
Dumbasses

shoot, shovel, shut up
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 11:08:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 11:08:38 PM EST by Skammy]
pungi sticks and a BBQ pig dinner!
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 11:12:08 PM EST
I hope that the coyotes have a master plan to regain their homeland.....

first take out the dogs....2. next the cats.....3. sh*t on the lawns...4. if three don't work, do it on the door step 5. get together with boars and tear up the prretty flower beds/dig everywhere on the lawns. 6. send in the field mices 7..get on top of the $70k benz parked outside and use your claws to write your expressions on it
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 11:21:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 11:24:15 PM EST by Da_Bunny]

Originally Posted By Inatree:
Just goes to prove some people actually need socialism labotomies.



Fixed it.

Rabies and fleaborne plagues will be along shortly, courtesy of your government.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 11:46:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By m98codered:
I hope that the coyotes have a master plan to regain their homeland.....

first take out the dogs....2. next the cats.....3. sh*t on the lawns...4. if three don't work, do it on the door step 5. get together with boars and tear up the prretty flower beds/dig everywhere on the lawns. 6. send in the field mices 7..get on top of the $70k benz parked outside and use your claws to write your expressions on it



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