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Posted: 8/9/2005 3:27:01 PM EDT
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IBSA
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Posted: 8/9/2005 3:30:38 PM EDT
[#2]
Its somebody working at a pawn shop, probably not your typical law student. (They should know better though)
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Posted: 8/9/2005 3:30:47 PM EDT
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All the ones I know charge 25 bucks flat fee no matter what it is or how much it cost.
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Posted: 8/9/2005 3:33:41 PM EDT
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Look on gunbroker.com or gunsamerica.com to see if there are any ffls in you area that are reasonable.
good luck. |
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Posted: 8/9/2005 3:34:27 PM EDT
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hey just because he has a FFL doesn't mean he knows the law.........as far as I know there is no written test for getting a FFL. you might have to go outside your local area to find a dealer that will do a transfer for you, that is reasonable......... pawn shops are notorious for gouging you, if you haven't noticed. |
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Posted: 8/9/2005 3:35:19 PM EDT
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Look at the find a FFL link on gunbroker on gunsamerica. There some around here that list their price at $5.00 for a transfer.
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Posted: 8/9/2005 3:36:02 PM EDT
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A flat fee of $25 is what I expected.
The draw back here is there are no gun shops in a town of 100,000+, but tons of pawn shops. They have the FFL's here. |
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Posted: 8/9/2005 3:39:57 PM EDT
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I've looked, all the FFL's listed are an hour away. That is a short drive after today, that's likely what I'll do at this point. |
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Posted: 8/9/2005 3:40:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2005 3:42:37 PM EDT
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you might want to also check your Hometown Fourm.  
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Posted: 8/9/2005 3:55:23 PM EDT
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LOL. I think S.A. would call this a true transfer, not a sale facilitated by a distributor using the FFL's account. IF (big IF) all the FFL is doing is running the 4473 and taking shipment, then 10% of the price is too much, especially 10% of retail when you've got a deal from a friend, as with this thread originator. On the other hand, I was standing behind a guy at the funshop the other day who wanted the FFL to order an arm from a bonafide "distributor", using the FFL's account with said distributor, getting pricing that the distributor only gives to dealers, and not wanting to pay more than $5 for the transfer. That is bad mojo and I disagree with it. |
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Posted: 8/9/2005 4:39:26 PM EDT
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Around here it's either $20 or one thats $10.
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Posted: 8/9/2005 6:35:17 PM EDT
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I've made friends with a pawn shop owner here and he charges me $20.
Hell,come to think about it, he charges every body $20! |
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Posted: 8/9/2005 6:39:11 PM EDT
[#14]
that's what you get for not transferring it through me
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Posted: 8/9/2005 6:49:42 PM EDT
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You just saved me at least $25 on my next purchase! I didn't realize that existed. The local gun store wants a flat $50, no matter what you are buying. No thanks. I just might have to think about ponying up for a membership after my next purchase with the savings! |
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Posted: 8/9/2005 6:49:49 PM EDT
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$30 is pretty standard where I just moved from (Jacksonville). The only problem I have had is when I bought three stripped AR lowers and most wanted to charge me a transfer fee for EACH lower. So $250 worth of lowers and a $90 dollar total transfer fee. Luckily I found a guy that only charged the flat transfer fee, $35 from him, the only reason he did that was because they weren't actually "whole" firearms. I'm back in my hometown now and know our two local FFL guys so it's $20 bucks on whatever here. Too bad most of the old kitchen table FFL guys are dwindling in numbers.
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Posted: 8/9/2005 6:51:42 PM EDT
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You should have drawn down on him.
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Posted: 8/9/2005 6:56:05 PM EDT
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Are you an FFL? Ben |
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Posted: 8/9/2005 6:57:57 PM EDT
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or at least kicked his dog 
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Posted: 8/9/2005 7:07:05 PM EDT
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I'm used to paying $10 for transfers at a couple places here. 10% would have had me paying $120 for a rifle I ordered from Cabelas last year.
I'm about to try to sell a pistol online, and will likely go through the small dealer that only charged me $10 for transfers. |
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Posted: 8/9/2005 7:12:42 PM EDT
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Don't bet too much on that, one of our members here (Duke-Nukem) worked in a pawn shop between graduation and passing the bar exam. |
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Posted: 8/9/2005 7:21:00 PM EDT
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Where in TX are those who do the 10$ transfers? WOW! That's cheap. One FFL around me wanted 35$ Ben |
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Posted: 8/9/2005 8:35:02 PM EDT
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No FFLs in your area, sounds like you should get a license.
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Posted: 8/9/2005 8:39:18 PM EDT
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My local FFL does mine for free because I always call before I come and ask if he wants me to bring him some lunch or a milkshake.
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Posted: 8/9/2005 8:45:40 PM EDT
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We only did transfers for the better customers. Transfers are a pain in the rear and not really worth the hassle if the shop is busy enough with walk ins. We used to do them but really sent them elsewhere most of the time. If they were good customers , we would do it once in a while, but some folks will never buy something no matter how much money you take off. They arent really customers anyway. Again this really depends on the amount of traffic. We did an average weekday of $15k-$20 and weekends were $40k+ a day. Doing transfers got in the way.
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Posted: 8/9/2005 8:47:40 PM EDT
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If it is a "private sale" then no percentage should apply.
I do "transfers" for $25 and part of that goes to cover what FDLE charges me. It is not MY "deal" and I am only the receiving agent. I'm not here to make money from "your deal" I am only charging for a service. Now if you are trying to buy at FFL prices from an FFL distributor that is another matter entirely. Won't do that for any price. I sell "new guns" at a price about halfway between my dealer price and suggested retail. I think that is more than fair. |
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Posted: 8/9/2005 8:48:12 PM EDT
[#27]
Cool I have my own acronym. 
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Posted: 8/9/2005 8:55:55 PM EDT
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How much does the FDLE charge you? My FFL does them for 10 bucks and I'm starting to feel guilty. Maybe I'll start tipping.
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Posted: 8/9/2005 9:00:02 PM EDT
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The state here charges the FFL $11 for the backround check. I pay $20. They make $9 on the deal.  |
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Posted: 8/9/2005 9:03:18 PM EDT
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The average for storefront FFLs in California seems to be about $100/transfer.
They want to "encourage" buying new from them. Even sob stories like "but I'm trying to get my girlfriend into handguns and she really wants this one" doesn't work. "Sorry, buy it new from me for $50 more than it would cost to transfer this used one" Damn it. 
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Posted: 8/9/2005 9:05:30 PM EDT
[#31]
Shit 10% over cost is the markup the local store charges for their exhisting stock. Transfers should be a flat fee.
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Posted: 8/9/2005 9:06:41 PM EDT
[#32]
Not every state charges for call ins. Most states are NICS states where the call is free. My state pretty much just calls NICS for me  and charges me to do so.The rest is for the service of maintaining the 4473 for 20 years. Buy your FFL a Coke and call it even. 
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Posted: 8/9/2005 9:12:37 PM EDT
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we charge $25
We don't get alot of transfers maybe 3-4 a week I do get about 2 guys a month with the i want to buy this at wholesale and you just charge me the trans fee |
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Posted: 8/9/2005 9:24:28 PM EDT
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LMAO! Did you check the SGN list? $20 should be the going rate. There are still a few kitchen table dealers left if you are willing to drive. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 1:53:02 AM EDT
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why? becuase you say so? last I checked there is nothing that says a FFL HAS to do a transfer, they do it as a service, and set their own price, they have to log the rifle in, do the background check and log it out........don't like it, shop around for one that has a flat rate, or get a FFL. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 2:03:38 AM EDT
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Yea mine is the same.
$10 with coffee and donuts $20 without  FREE
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Posted: 8/10/2005 4:19:47 AM EDT
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Looks like you need to open your own shop. Under sell these guys. If they are like the guy described they won't have an FFL too long. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 4:21:26 AM EDT
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I found a local, small time dealer using gunbroker.com's FFL finder. My first few transfers were $25 but now he only charges $20
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Posted: 8/10/2005 4:35:00 AM EDT
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I had the same issue. I located a P99 from CDNN at $400. The gun shop that I've been loyal to, couldn't figure out why I didn't want to come in and buy the same gun from them for $575. I have no problem supporting my local gun shop, but I can't pass up that good of a deal (not to mention no sales tax). It took a lot of digging, but I found a pawn shop that would do it for $30. I actually had one place that decided they were going to charge more since its a gun they have in stock.
You can frame it how you want, but the FFL liscense is a government created regulation that allows the few that have to charge what they will for a transfer. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 5:56:29 AM EDT
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My kitchen table guy left me $20 (per yellow page); and this is what I'm dealing with now... From Gunbroker I got two of the cheapest FFLs around: One charged me $25 per each  2nd try said flat fee over the phone $15  But then went to pick them up, the total changed to $30  What the F*** I'm getting my own FFL Damnit Can't afford to throw $ away to other people and I live in TX too, so I hear ya! |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 6:06:55 AM EDT
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I heard that's VERY difficult nowaday's, is that true or no? |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:49:00 AM EDT
[#42]
i've been known to do a transfer for an 18 pack
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Posted: 8/10/2005 9:50:48 AM EDT
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Case of Quisp is my standard rate of "barter." 
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Posted: 8/10/2005 1:47:31 PM EDT
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You got that right Tex. I miss doing business with you. The only reason I even called this pawn shop is because I'd bought form him when I lived here four years ago. He used to sell a lot of Bushmasters, and other stuff. I used to get good deals on ammo too. The last time I was in there (a few weeks ago, before my latest "quest for my next gun" started) He was showing some teenagers an AR. I walked a little closer after they were through to see what kind it was. It was a 20" A-2 Oly, with a $1100.00 price tag! I was just looking to see what he had, and didn't look much. Its not like I'm a total stranger though. My wife taught both of his kids in school, and we (my wife and I) had been in there and shot the breeze a few times with him and his wife. For now I'm going to blow off buying this pistol. I should know in a few weeks if I'll be moving back to the Gulf Coast. I'm not going to worry though, I've got a plan. My 7 year Anniversary is next week. My wife picked out a really nice antique table and six chairs for her gift, and we bought it. The pistol is what I wanted, but since I'm "having such a hard time" getting mine, I'll just put it off until I get back to South Texas. Then the amount of time and the move will work in my favor. I'll go after a Kimber Pro carry!! Tex....be lookin' for me....... |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 2:05:14 PM EDT
[#45]
Each weapon is more work for the dealer. Why SHOULDN'T they charge per weapon?I think my rates are pretty reasonable, but yeah, I charge per weapon. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 2:30:35 PM EDT
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It's about time they allow the transfer work to be done by the shipper and allow him to ship your new gun to your door. We need to do away with the middleman. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 2:41:27 PM EDT
[#47]
It seems ridiculous that the law has altered interstate commerce in a such a way as to force consumers to pay premiums for a simple transaction.
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Posted: 8/10/2005 2:46:18 PM EDT
[#48]
Ahh but your not allowed to get an FFL for personal reasons. You have to attempt to make a profit and spend some time doing so. Easier in the long run to find someone locally or drive a bit. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 2:47:49 PM EDT
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Better than having weapons being transferred sight unseen without any controls between complete strangers. |
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Posted: 8/10/2005 2:49:52 PM EDT
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I had no intention of getting it for personal reasons. I just want to be in the glamorous business of firearms sales (after boot/ait ofcourse.) |
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