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Posted: 8/7/2005 2:49:48 AM EDT
A woman is getting alot of media (Liberal Fucktard) spin time in Crawford, Texas. Here son was killed in action (Iraq ?) and she "Wants to know why he had to die". As far as I know, there has been no draft. He must of volunteered for duty in the armed forces. There are thousands of options for a reasonably intelligent young person in a variety of career paths, he CHOSE the Army. IMHO, the lib's are using the pain of her loss, as is she, to further their agenda. I cannot fully express the contempt I have for these people.
By the way, I am also a veteran. I enlisted in the USMC, a Volunteer force. What do you think of this
political maneuvering ? Ray
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 2:52:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 2:55:58 AM EDT
kinda like the libtard father of that guy who went to iraq and got captured and beheaded. It weren't no one's fault but his own. He wasn't even in the military, for that guys father to personally blame Bush and Cheney is utterly stupid.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 3:06:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 3:07:07 AM EDT by KlubMarcus]

Originally Posted By ferretray: A woman is getting alot of media (Liberal Fucktard) spin time in Crawford, Texas. Here son was killed in action (Iraq ?) and she "Wants to know why he had to die".
President Bush's answer should be, "How should I know? I'm not his mother!"
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 3:25:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 3:26:08 AM EDT by MTUSA]
Liberalism is a mental illness. You are in the Military. People die stupid ass.
Sometimes poor decisions result in death. Lets hope this was not the case considering this guy's
mother is stupid. Geesh. Idiots
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 3:41:38 AM EDT
http://democrat.meetup.com/181/boards/view/viewthread?thread=1452804

The following message might be of interest to people in this group and is from Mark Stahl, Coordinating Committee member, Rhode Island Community Coalition for Peace:

Cindy Sheehan, nationally-recognized peace activist and founding member of Gold Star Families for Peace, is speaking at events this month in Providence and Cape Cod. Please forward this announcement to your membership lists as Cindy is an important witness for peace and deserves the widest possible audience. Following are some details on the three events.

Now that's funny! If she was a peacenik before her son served, then obviously he ignored her. If she became a peacenik afterwards, then she's like a criminal who found God after getting thrown in jail! If she really is that concerned about the troops, then maybe she should send the fundraiser money to a vest manufacturer and mail some gear to the front instead spendingthe money coming to Texas to hang out Bush's ranch during his vacation! Damn out-of-state Liberals! Ever since the Democrats lost elections on the state level, they've been bringing outsiders to shore up their numbers.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 4:09:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By KlubMarcus:
http://democrat.meetup.com/181/boards/view/viewthread?thread=1452804

The following message might be of interest to people in this group and is from Mark Stahl, Coordinating Committee member, Rhode Island Community Coalition for Peace:

Cindy Sheehan, nationally-recognized peace activist and founding member of Gold Star Families for Peace, is speaking at events this month in Providence and Cape Cod. Please forward this announcement to your membership lists as Cindy is an important witness for peace and deserves the widest possible audience. Following are some details on the three events.

Now that's funny! If she was a peacenik before her son served, then obviously he ignored her. If she became a peacenik afterwards, then she's like a criminal who found God after getting thrown in jail! If she really is that concerned about the troops, then maybe she should send the fundraiser money to a vest manufacturer and mail some gear to the front instead spendingthe money coming to Texas to hang out Bush's ranch during his vacation! Damn out-of-state Liberals! Ever since the Democrats lost elections on the state level, they've been bringing outsiders to shore up their numbers.


Is this the same Gold Star org. that would not allow a fallen non-U.S. citizen soldiers mother to join ? Ray
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 4:33:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Enigma102083:
kinda like the libtard father of that guy who went to iraq and got captured and beheaded. It weren't no one's fault but his own. He wasn't even in the military, for that guys father to personally blame Bush and Cheney is utterly stupid.



I read that the father is a fucktard of cataclysmic proportions: placing direct blame on Bush et al. But the mother blames "terrorists" and is somehat lukewarm to the whole invasion.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 5:10:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ferretray:

Originally Posted By KlubMarcus:
http://democrat.meetup.com/181/boards/view/viewthread?thread=1452804

The following message might be of interest to people in this group and is from Mark Stahl, Coordinating Committee member, Rhode Island Community Coalition for Peace:

Cindy Sheehan, nationally-recognized peace activist and founding member of Gold Star Families for Peace, is speaking at events this month in Providence and Cape Cod. Please forward this announcement to your membership lists as Cindy is an important witness for peace and deserves the widest possible audience. Following are some details on the three events.

Now that's funny! If she was a peacenik before her son served, then obviously he ignored her. If she became a peacenik afterwards, then she's like a criminal who found God after getting thrown in jail! If she really is that concerned about the troops, then maybe she should send the fundraiser money to a vest manufacturer and mail some gear to the front instead spendingthe money coming to Texas to hang out Bush's ranch during his vacation! Damn out-of-state Liberals! Ever since the Democrats lost elections on the state level, they've been bringing outsiders to shore up their numbers.


Is this the same Gold Star org. that would not allow a fallen non-U.S. citizen soldiers mother to join ? Ray



No, the Gold Star Families for Peace are an anti-war organization and have nothing to do with the Gold Star Mothers organization.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 5:41:40 AM EDT
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/08/06/bush.peace.mom.ap/index.html
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 5:53:23 AM EDT
The woman needs grief counseling and comfort from other families of fallen servicemen. The media needs to leave town, otherwise she'll turn into another BERG*

* Remember Nick Berg, the civilian killed by the terrorists, his F#cktard Father is an anti-war activist blaming everyone associated with the war for his son's death. He get's plenty of exposure.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 6:01:27 AM EDT
I can tell her why. It's the same reason why about 60,000 US servicement died in WWI. It's the same reason why about 400,000 died in WWII. It's the same reason why 37,000 died in Korea. It's why 58,000+ died in Vietnam. It's because he was serving his nation and carrying out the mission of defending our nation and it's interests against foreign enemies who threatened those interests. He was a soldier, one of the most noble titles that can be bestowed upon a man. That's why.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 6:06:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
I can tell her why. It's the same reason why about 60,000 US servicement died in WWI. It's the same reason why about 400,000 died in WWII. It's the same reason why 37,000 died in Korea. It's why 58,000+ died in Vietnam. It's because he was serving his nation and carrying out the mission of defending our nation and it's interests against foreign enemies who threatened those interests. He was a soldier, one of the most noble titles that can be bestowed upon a man. That's why.



+1



Max
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 6:16:17 AM EDT
She's greiving and she is a mother. There is going to be some anger. Myself, I don't think the civilian leadership of this country does a very good job of managing wars. Bottom line though is she will evnetually recognize and be proud of her son's honor and sacrifice. The media won't show that though, they are just using her, her grief and sorrow for their own socialist 5th Column purposes. One day, perhaps, they will be appropriately shot as traitors to the United States.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 7:20:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 7:23:06 AM EDT by Greenhorn]
Two days ago on the news, the reporter reported that six Marines from Ohio had been killed. Then the next words out of her mouth were, "Bush has not given a timeline for the US pullout."

What media bias?
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 7:41:25 AM EDT

I can't stand these people who's sons and daughters join the Armed Forces to get all of the benefits involved... GI Bill, Training, Signing Bonuses, Health Care etc... but don't want to stand up and do their part.

I'm especially shocked at the parents reactions. They should know better.

Hint, if you dont want to get shot at in some foreign land DONT SIGN UP FOR THE ARMED FORCES
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 7:44:19 AM EDT
I just took my 17y.o. son down to the Marine Corps recruiting station last week. I couldn't believe some peoples reaction to it saying; " the military isn't a good place to be right now" or "why the Marines? He's going to see combat." The recruiter was pretty straight forward with us, told my son what to expect and what the Marines could do for him if he's willing to commit 100%. He didn't try to "sweet talk" my son into joining with a lot of promises and addressed my son's concerns about the recent news of the Marine losses in Iraq. My son now needs to get his GED and take the ASVAB test before going any further. I'm proud of his decision and hope that he will make it.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 7:52:17 AM EDT
damn the press..
damn the mother...
damin the prez...
damn the publicity.

having said all that, if i was prez, i think i would have said fuk it.. and would have at least done a face to face with her.. with no press.. no one else around.. hate her politics.. and the press and their whoring of this whole situation.. but her son did die fighting for his country.. the prez is the man at the top and should have enough whatever to look her and the eye and tell her that.. and that he himself was proud even she wasn't...
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 8:04:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
I can tell her why. It's the same reason why about 60,000 US servicement died in WWI. It's the same reason why about 400,000 died in WWII. It's the same reason why 37,000 died in Korea. It's why 58,000+ died in Vietnam. It's because he was serving his nation and carrying out the mission of defending our nation and it's interests against foreign enemies who threatened those interests. He was a soldier, one of the most noble titles that can be bestowed upon a man. That's why.



coundn't be said better 1+++
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 8:14:23 AM EDT
Because he volunteered to risk his life so that your stupid liberal ass won't have to dodge airplanes that terrorist hijackers want to fly into our buildings or deal with roadside bombs or have movie theatres blown up or ....................................................................................have your cafe blasted to hell.............and on and on and on and on........ Stupid fucking cunt. I guess it must ahve been a divorce case and dad got custody because the son apparently ahd more sense than mom.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 8:32:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 8:34:54 AM EDT by WildBoar]
If he was an E4 or lower you can bet he joined after the war was already on. What was his MOS?

She has my condolences. Its a shame the Democrats are using her pain to their advantage. I actually think they love this stuff.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 9:19:47 AM EDT
And some people wonder why I hate a majority of the people in the US.


If I die(d) in Iraq and my mother did this, I'd come back and bitchslap her.

But she wont...
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 9:22:38 AM EDT
well, her son was killed by terrorists, proof there's terrorists out there that need killing.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 10:37:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
I can tell her why. It's the same reason why about 60,000 US servicement died in WWI. It's the same reason why about 400,000 died in WWII. It's the same reason why 37,000 died in Korea. It's why 58,000+ died in Vietnam. It's because he was serving his nation and carrying out the mission of defending our nation and it's interests against foreign enemies who threatened those interests. He was a soldier, one of the most noble titles that can be bestowed upon a man. That's why.




That's a well thought up answer. I like it and I'll definitely use it the next time I hear someone whining about the war.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 10:39:00 AM EDT
Madam, if you have to ask, then you're not paying attention.

You are also cheapening the death of your son and basically calling him a moron by making a spectacle of yourself.

Congratulations.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 10:43:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 10:44:08 AM EDT by Zaphod]

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
I can tell her why. It's the same reason why about 60,000 US servicement died in WWI. It's the same reason why about 400,000 died in WWII. It's the same reason why 37,000 died in Korea. It's why 58,000+ died in Vietnam. It's because he was serving his nation and carrying out the mission of defending our nation and it's interests against foreign enemies who threatened those interests. He was is a soldier, one of the most noble titles that can be bestowed upon a man. That's why.



Another great answer.

I hve taken the liberty of making a minor change. To me, a person who dies in combat is forever a soldier/sailor/airman. They've earned that through their sacrifice.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 11:49:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
I can tell her why. It's the same reason why about 60,000 US servicement died in WWI. It's the same reason why about 400,000 died in WWII. It's the same reason why 37,000 died in Korea. It's why 58,000+ died in Vietnam. It's because he was serving his nation and carrying out the mission of defending our nation and it's interests against foreign enemies who threatened those interests. He was a soldier, one of the most noble titles that can be bestowed upon a man. That's why.


Hear! Hear!
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 11:53:20 AM EDT
Why her son? Because Freedom isn't Free.
Someone always pays. And her son was willing to defend our freedoms and the freedom
of the oppressed Iraqi People.

Her son's death was not in vain.

Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:00:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
I can tell her why. It's the same reason why about 60,000 US servicement died in WWI. It's the same reason why about 400,000 died in WWII. It's the same reason why 37,000 died in Korea. It's why 58,000+ died in Vietnam. It's because he was serving his nation and carrying out the mission of defending our nation and it's interests against foreign enemies who threatened those interests. He was a soldier, one of the most noble titles that can be bestowed upon a man. That's why.



+1
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:13:28 PM EDT
Saw her on the Sunday news this AM.
One of the first things she said was, "Why did Bush kill my s...", then she caught herself and reverted to the "Why did my son have to die?" line.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:15:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bostonterrier97:

Her son's death was not in vain.





Despite the best efforts of the people fawning over her....
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:28:10 PM EDT

I'm glad GWB is the president and not the stupids.


That is an oxy-moron if I ever saw one.

Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:32:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By glockguy40:

I'm glad GWB is the president and not the stupids.


That is an oxy-moron if I ever saw one.




I guess you've never seen one then.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:34:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By glockguy40:

I'm glad GWB is the president and not the stupids.


That is an oxy-moron if I ever saw one.




I guess you've never seen one then.



You are going to sit there and deny bush has a very low IQ.... you might be more stupid than he is then.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:37:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By glockguy40:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By glockguy40:

I'm glad GWB is the president and not the stupids.


That is an oxy-moron if I ever saw one.




I guess you've never seen one then.



You are going to sit there and deny bush has a very low IQ.... you might be more stupid than he is then.



I am going so simultaneously deny the lie that you're trying to push AND affirm the truth that you could divide either President Bush's or my IQ by 4 and still have a higher number than yours.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:39:49 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:39:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 12:42:35 PM EDT by glockguy40]
LOL... you wish jackass. I went to one of the top 10 universities in the country.

Where did you graduate... your local Florida junior college.

Ok ok... I will give you some credit just to be nice. Univ. of Florida.

You would still be teh suck compared to me LOL.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:43:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By glockguy40:
LOL... you wish jackass. I went to one of the top 10 universities in the country.

Where did you graduate... your local Florida junior college.

Ok ok... I will give you some credit just to be nice. Univ. of Florida.

You would still be teh suck compared to me LOL.



Thanks for proving my point. You're borderline illiterate.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:47:27 PM EDT
She is in the process of grieving and as is often the case is lashing out in an irrational manner. This is not at all unusual when a parent suddenly has a child that dies in an accident or violent manner. Sometimes they blame themselves or God or in this case she has blamed President Bush.

She can be excused at this point while she is grieving and I suspect that eventually she will come to terms with her son's death. What is inexcusable is the way the anti-war movement and media are using her for their own purposes.

Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:48:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 12:49:07 PM EDT by PlaymoreMinds]

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
I can tell her why. It's the same reason why about 60,000 US servicement died in WWI. It's the same reason why about 400,000 died in WWII. It's the same reason why 37,000 died in Korea. It's why 58,000+ died in Vietnam. It's because he was serving his nation and carrying out the mission of defending our nation and it's interests against foreign enemies who threatened those interests. He was a soldier, one of the most noble titles that can be bestowed upon a man. That's why.




Any way we can get this in a letter to her??
I really think Charging Handle should apply for the job as the "explainer"

Well said...and to Zaphod too for his sentiments of never losing the title after death.

Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:50:10 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:50:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 12:52:07 PM EDT by glockguy40]

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By glockguy40:
LOL... you wish jackass. I went to one of the top 10 universities in the country.

Where did you graduate... your local Florida junior college.

Ok ok... I will give you some credit just to be nice. Univ. of Florida.

You would still be teh suck compared to me LOL.



Thanks for proving my point. You're borderline illiterate.



Your comeback-fu is weak my son... perhaps you should stick to sucking George Bush's dick and leave the insults to those who have an IQ.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:55:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By glockguy40:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By glockguy40:
LOL... you wish jackass. I went to one of the top 10 universities in the country.

Where did you graduate... your local Florida junior college.

Ok ok... I will give you some credit just to be nice. Univ. of Florida.

You would still be teh suck compared to me LOL.



Thanks for proving my point. You're borderline illiterate.



Your comeback-fu is weak my son... perhaps you should stick to sucking George Bush's dick and leave the insults to those who have an IQ.



I wouldn't know about sucking dick, so I'll leave that to you...and as for being a master of insults, only someone with a small...self image...would care about that. Last time I checked, an insult generation question wasn't on any IQ test.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:56:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By glockguy40:
LOL... you wish jackass. I went to one of the top 10 universities in the country.and came right back from, it appears...If you start to flaunt your 'intelligence' you better make sure that you don't use slang to prove your point.

Where did you graduate... your local Florida junior college.

Ok ok... I will give you some credit just to be nice. Univ. of Florida.

You would still be teh suck compared to me LOL.



Thanks for proving my point. You're borderline illiterate.

Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:58:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By glockguy40:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By glockguy40:
LOL... you wish jackass. I went to one of the top 10 universities in the country.

Where did you graduate... your local Florida junior college.

Ok ok... I will give you some credit just to be nice. Univ. of Florida.

You would still be teh suck compared to me LOL.



Thanks for proving my point. You're borderline illiterate.



Your comeback-fu is weak my son... perhaps you should stick to sucking George Bush's dick and leave the insults to those who have an IQ.



I wouldn't know about sucking dick, so I'll leave that to you...and as for being a master of insults, only someone with a small...self image...would care about that. Last time I checked, an insult generation question wasn't on any IQ test.



LOL. Ok I'll leave you alone. I won't pick on you anymore pole smoker. It is not PC to be making fun of the slow and retarded.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 1:00:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By glockguy40:
LOL. Ok I'll leave you alone. I won't pick on you anymore pole smoker. It is not PC to be making fun of the slow and retarded.



You know, looking at the lowering standards of our universities, I can well believe that one of the so-called "top 10" colleges let you slip through the cracks. Sad.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 1:01:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 1:02:32 PM EDT by glockguy40]

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By glockguy40:
LOL. Ok I'll leave you alone. I won't pick on you anymore pole smoker. It is not PC to be making fun of the slow and retarded.



You know, looking at the lowering standards of our universities, I can well believe that one of the so-called "top 10" colleges let you slip through the cracks. Sad.



LOL. 1520 on my SAT's. You? probably lucky if you broke 1000.

Link Posted: 8/7/2005 1:02:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By glockguy40:
LOL... you wish jackass. I went to one of the top 10 universities in the country.




So did W, if you recall.....
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 1:07:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By glockguy40:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By glockguy40:
LOL. Ok I'll leave you alone. I won't pick on you anymore pole smoker. It is not PC to be making fun of the slow and retarded.



You know, looking at the lowering standards of our universities, I can well believe that one of the so-called "top 10" colleges let you slip through the cracks. Sad.



LOL. 1520 on my SAT's. You? probably lucky if you broke 1000.




Now, this here would be counterindicative of you actually being that intelligent. First of all, you assume that I would believe anything you said, and second, you lack the foresight to understand what would happen if I told you my SAT scores. Your reaction would be to accuse me of lying.
Obviously, you aren't as smart as you think you are.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 1:12:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By glockguy40:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By glockguy40:
LOL. Ok I'll leave you alone. I won't pick on you anymore pole smoker. It is not PC to be making fun of the slow and retarded.



You know, looking at the lowering standards of our universities, I can well believe that one of the so-called "top 10" colleges let you slip through the cracks. Sad.



LOL. 1520 on my SAT's. You? probably lucky if you broke 1000.




Now, this here would be counterindicative of you actually being that intelligent. First of all, you assume that I would believe anything you said, and second, you lack the foresight to understand what would happen if I told you my SAT scores. Your reaction would be to accuse me of lying.
Obviously, you aren't as smart as you think you are.



That's ok. Believe what you want. I'll be working on Wall Street soon. Will you move to New York with me so you can serve me my burgers and fries??
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 1:13:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By glockguy40:
LOL... you wish jackass. I went to one of the top 10 universities in the country.




So did W, if you recall.....



yea... what were his SAT scores though. LOL. Daddy got him in.

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