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Posted: 4/22/2016 11:18:45 PM EDT
Is it just me

It actually only happened once where I grabbed a gun but the first thing through my mind wasn't
the noise I heard or what possibly it could be .It was damn I wish I had a  long gun instead of this pistol.


Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:19:46 PM EDT
Pistol is for making noise while I get to my carbine.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:21:20 PM EDT
Inside the house, I usually go for the Glock 34, since I have lots of doorways to negotiate.



Outside, I generally prefer the AR or 870, but we don't always get to pick how it goes down.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:21:22 PM EDT
Rifle is for fighting your way to your pistol.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:22:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:22:52 PM EDT
Because it would be difficult to kill the horses with a pistol?
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:23:15 PM EDT
Everybody wants to be Commando.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:23:26 PM EDT
Don't bring a pistol to a rifle fight.








Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:24:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ranging-by-zipcode:
Is it just me

It actually only happened once where I grabbed a gun but the first thing through my mind wasn't
the noise I heard or what possibly it could be .It was damn I wish I had a  long gun instead of this pistol.


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When the shit goes down everything seems inadequate.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:25:03 PM EDT
I actually prefer to grab my pistol when shit goes bump. Unless it's a durka durka with his buddies, then grab a rifle and possibly a friend.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:25:32 PM EDT
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not me

Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:26:02 PM EDT
For when that solitary bump in the night turns into 5 armed thugs
breaking into your house.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:27:33 PM EDT
Someday. Hope to own that FN beltfed. Rue the day, robbers.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:27:35 PM EDT
30 rounds of 7.62x39 > 9 rounds of .45 ACP
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:27:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/22/2016 11:29:43 PM EDT by Casval214]
Because rifles are superior in every way, why would I take an inferior weapon?

Choosing a pistol over a rifle is like choosing to bang your second cusion over Jennifer Lawrence.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:58:49 PM EDT
Hard pressed to think of a news story where a shootout occurred and a homeowner didn't have enough gun with a handgun.  Maybe that ome story of the gunshop owner who used his machine gun and other stuff to fight multiple guys.  That's...pretty rare.  I feel fine going after "bump in the night" with a pistol.  Any robber is gonna be freakin surprised to run into somebody with a gun and bad guys seem to pretty universally end up being the ones killed whenever they run into cops and armed citizens.  I think we worry too much.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:02:11 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:04:00 AM EDT
It's unpopular here, but I grab my 870 when I hear a noise.  For the distances I'm concerned about, it says "FUCK YOU" pretty clearly.  It has a Surefire which is nice.  And I'm 100% confident in its operation.

YMMV

I have grabbed my 1911 when it's more convenient, but I'm using the 1911 to get to my 870.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:04:39 AM EDT
If my family's life is in question, I want the most violent weapon system available. A rifle is a poor substitute for an air strike, but that's all I got.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:06:33 AM EDT
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Get a .357 magnum or a .45 and you'll not feel so under armed.
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458 socom AR
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:06:46 AM EDT
In defense of the pistol, it is hard to rifle whip someone.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:07:44 AM EDT
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It's really not.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:08:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
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Butt stroke > pistol whip

Even the business end of a rifle to someone's jaw is pretty brutal.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:09:08 AM EDT
Inside the house in the dark or at close quarters outdoors the 12 gauge trumps all other home defense weapons. Period. Groggy? Half awake and running on adrenaline? Eye boogers blinding you at 3am when the shit goes down? 870 for the win!. Although I don't feel too badly if I just grab the .40 off the nightstand either.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:10:59 AM EDT
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Muzzle strikes have a strong motivating emphasis, ditto buttstroks from walnut stocked/steel buttplated M1 Garands.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:11:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
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I'd much rather take my chances with a dude trying to pistol whip me as opposed to someone punching a rifle muzzle into my chest or butt stroking me in the grape.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:13:00 AM EDT
I keep the M4 next to my bed right now, because my toddler can't pull a charging handle back.  

I'll figure out another solution next year.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:14:02 AM EDT
Whenever I had shit go weird I always grabbed my WASR even though I have my CZ SP01 on my nightstand.  Never had to use either but I want the heavy shit when shit's questionable.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:16:07 AM EDT
First off you release the dogs.  Then you use the pistol to clean up afterwards.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:20:17 AM EDT
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Its actually easier. Do you even butt stroke bro?
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:21:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By vxtip545:
Hard pressed to think of a news story where a shootout occurred and a homeowner didn't have enough gun with a handgun.  Maybe that ome story of the gunshop owner who used his machine gun and other stuff to fight multiple guys.  That's...pretty rare.  I feel fine going after "bump in the night" with a pistol.  Any robber is gonna be freakin surprised to run into somebody with a gun and bad guys seem to pretty universally end up being the ones killed whenever they run into cops and armed citizens.  I think we worry too much.
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This comes to mind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Johnston_shooting
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:32:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Casval214:
Because rifles are superior in every way, why would I take an inferior weapon?

Choosing a pistol over a rifle is like choosing to bang your second cusion over Jennifer Lawrence.
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What if Jennifer Lawrence is your second cousin?
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:35:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AnticitizenOne:
Because it would be difficult to kill the horses with a pistol?
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It's actually not that hard. Most horses are pretty tame and friendly. So you just walk up and offer them a carrot and then "blam", right in the eye

Works every time, 80% of the time
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:38:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 2IDdoc:


It's really not.
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Originally Posted By 2IDdoc:
Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
In defense of the pistol, it is hard to rifle whip someone.


It's really not.


Conversely, you can actually rifle whip someone with most sig pistols
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:39:08 AM EDT
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What if Jennifer Lawrence is your second cousin?
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Originally Posted By Casval214:
Because rifles are superior in every way, why would I take an inferior weapon?

Choosing a pistol over a rifle is like choosing to bang your second cusion over Jennifer Lawrence.


What if Jennifer Lawrence is your second cousin?

As the young kids say, yolo
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:39:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/23/2016 12:40:08 AM EDT by LostX]
I feel way more confident in my rifle skills than I do my pistol skills. Never trained/practiced in a CQB environment but I just feel that way.

Plus, way  I look at it, shithead already has an advantage over me by getting into my house undetected. Therefore I want to take that advantage away from him with 30rnds of fuck you.


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If you do it right, you grab your pistol first and let the dogs clean up.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:41:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ranging-by-zipcode:
Is it just me

It actually only happened once where I grabbed a gun but the first thing through my mind wasn't
the noise I heard or what possibly it could be .It was damn I wish I had a  long gun instead of this pistol.


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Because I have more.  Unless I have to conceal it or it's too big to move with there is no such thing as too much firepower.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:45:27 AM EDT
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No, only the kilt-wearers do that.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:50:02 AM EDT

More firepower is better firepower, and there is no such thing as too much firepower.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 12:53:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlatDarkEarf:


Butt stroke > pistol whip

Even the business end of a rifle to someone's jaw is pretty brutal.
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Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
In defense of the pistol, it is hard to rifle whip someone.


Butt stroke > pistol whip

Even the business end of a rifle to someone's jaw is pretty brutal.


I thought the muzzle punch was all the rage these days..?  I always imagine thumping someone in the throat.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:10:25 AM EDT
I've got 3 kids, so a bump in the night is usually them. That having been said, the typical investigative weapon is a Glock 19. If I KNEW or strongly suspected an actual breach, I have a Tavor ready to go right under it.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:13:29 AM EDT
My go to response is to make sure I'm naked and armed with a butter knife in each hand then run outside screaming about demons.  I figure if that don't deter any would-be ne'er do wells, not much will.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:30:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ranging-by-zipcode:
Is it just me

It actually only happened once where I grabbed a gun but the first thing through my mind wasn't
the noise I heard or what possibly it could be .It was damn I wish I had a  long gun instead of this pistol.


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IMHO.. Many gun people feel more accomplished in their longarm skills/mastery than their pistol capabilities.

Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:31:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By KingRat:
Rifle is for fighting your way to your pistol.
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Something like that...
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:44:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:44:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
It's unpopular here, but I grab my 870 when I hear a noise.  For the distances I'm concerned about, it says "FUCK YOU" pretty clearly.  It has a Surefire which is nice.  And I'm 100% confident in its operation.

YMMV

I have grabbed my 1911 when it's more convenient, but I'm using the 1911 to get to my 870.
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Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:49:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ranging-by-zipcode:
Is it just me

It actually only happened once where I grabbed a gun but the first thing through my mind wasn't
the noise I heard or what possibly it could be .It was damn I wish I had a  long gun instead of this pistol.


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Because you never choose a pistol when you have a choice.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:50:27 AM EDT
A pistol is used to fight your way to the long gun that you should have had with you in the first place.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:51:27 AM EDT
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IMHO.. Many gun people feel more accomplished in their longarm skills/mastery than their pistol capabilities.

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Originally Posted By ranging-by-zipcode:
Is it just me

It actually only happened once where I grabbed a gun but the first thing through my mind wasn't
the noise I heard or what possibly it could be .It was damn I wish I had a  long gun instead of this pistol.




IMHO.. Many gun people feel more accomplished in their longarm skills/mastery than their pistol capabilities.



This is probably most accurate. It's easy to shoot well with an AR.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:53:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/23/2016 1:57:15 AM EDT by bob1946]
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Originally Posted By PNWRN:

More firepower is better firepower, and there is no such thing as too much firepower.
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I agree that is why this is my carry piece.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 1:54:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By charliebravo:
I've got 3 kids, so a bump in the night is usually them. That having been said, the typical investigative weapon is a Glock 19. If I KNEW or strongly suspected an actual breach, I have a Tavor ready to go right under it.
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Six kids, a nephew and their friends that show up at weird times. The last thing I want to do is answer the door with an AR when teenage girls are most likely knocking. A pistol i can hide behind my leg without causing a major scene and freaking out children.

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