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Posted: 8/29/2004 11:51:41 AM EST
I'm shopping for a light truck or SUV. I stopped by the local Chevy dealer and test drove the new Colorado. While I was driving I looked down at the odometer. 2212miles! WTF? When we got back into the dealership lot and I looked in the bed a little closer. Scratch marks everywhere!

Well I thought that maybe they'd work a deal. Nope. MSRP was just over 24K, and they were asking 26K! I couldn't believe they had the guts to ask for 2k over MSRP for a car with 2200+miles. They said it was new because it didn't have a private owner. As I walked out I commented that it may not be preowned, but it is damn sure used.

What do you guys think?
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:52:12 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:53:33 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:53:37 AM EST
That's bullshit

USED has nothing to do with wehther it's been titled or not. If there's more than a 100 miles on a car, it's USED !!!

Whenever I've bought NEW cars, I've bought cars with LESS THAN 10 MILES on the clock. i don't want some car that assholes have been test-driving for months, or that the dealership employees loan to their wives to go grocery shopping in.

Over 2000 miles is totally used - and you shoud laugh at them and go elsewhere.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:56:13 AM EST
I bet that those are 2200 hard miles. The dealership was using it as a loaner car or demo or something. And like a rental, those cars get abused like a red-headed step child.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:56:18 AM EST
When you fart in the seat for the first time........
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:56:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 11:57:06 AM EST by dport]

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Over 2000 miles is totally used - and you shoud laugh at them and go elsewhere.



Make no mistake, I did just that. I only stayed because I thought they'd be willing to deal.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:58:16 AM EST
What!? 2000+ miles isn't used like the world isn't round.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:59:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By dport:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Over 2000 miles is totally used - and you shoud laugh at them and go elsewhere.



Make no mistake, I did just that. I only stayed because I thought they'd be willing to deal.



I would go a step further and get them to draw up the paperwork, then tell them to go fly a kite. Cost them a little time for wasting yours...
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:59:17 AM EST

So when does a car become used?


When it leaves the dealership.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 12:01:04 PM EST
Sorry, but with any mileage over 100 it is a used car and should be priced as such. If a private owner buys it and drives .1 off the dealers lot her just lost a good 10% of the value of the vehicle. Just for driving it off the lot. If the dealership let it be used enough to put 2000 on it . . .that is used like a drunk sorority chick on Friday night.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 12:07:08 PM EST
A car shouldn't get over 100 miles of test drives.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 12:24:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By dport:
I'm shopping for a light truck or SUV. I stopped by the local Chevy dealer and test drove the new Colorado. While I was driving I looked down at the odometer. 2212miles! WTF? When we got back into the dealership lot and I looked in the bed a little closer. Scratch marks everywhere!

Well I thought that maybe they'd work a deal. Nope. MSRP was just over 24K, and they were asking 26K! I couldn't believe they had the guts to ask for 2k over MSRP for a car with 2200+miles. They said it was new because it didn't have a private owner. As I walked out I commented that it may not be preowned, but it is damn sure used.

What do you guys think?



It's 'used' the moment that it's driven off the lot by the first owner.

Prior to that, it's considered 'new'...
All 'new' cars will have miles from being moved after production, shipped, and moved around the lot...
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 12:41:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dave_A:
It's 'used' the moment that it's driven off the lot by the first owner.

Prior to that, it's considered 'new'...
All 'new' cars will have miles from being moved after production, shipped, and moved around the lot...



You can't tell me a car is moved 2200 miles. Hell, I don't live 2200 miles from Michigan. I could drive from where I live on the East Coast to St Louis and BACK and still be about 400 miles short of 2200. That would cover every single mile of I-64 TWICE. Moved around the lot my ass. Moving around the lot or shipping from one store to the other doesn't put scratches in the bed.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 12:43:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 12:43:35 PM EST by bvmjethead]
More than 25 miles on the odometer, I don't care about title or not.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 12:52:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By bvmjethead:
More than 25 miles on the odometer, I don't care about title or not.



That's if the odometer is connected. Several years back either a dealership (or it could have been the factory...Chrysler I think?) in St Louis got busted selling well used cars. It seems they were disconnecting the odometer (& subsequently the speedo) & letting employees use them as personal vehicles for a while then reconnecting the odometer & putting the car back on the lot.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 12:56:14 PM EST
RUN AWAY.

FEDERAL law is that if a vheicle has more than 500 miles on it it should NOT be sold as NEW!

These guys are crooks.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 12:57:12 PM EST

Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl:
RUN AWAY.

FEDERAL law is that if a vheicle has more than 500 miles on it it should NOT be sold as NEW!

These guys are crooks.



Wow, I hate to ask, but do you have a link to something I can print out? I'd love to take it back to that dealership.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 12:57:48 PM EST
That's a used car.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 12:58:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By dport:
I'm shopping for a light truck or SUV. I stopped by the local Chevy dealer and test drove the new Colorado. While I was driving I looked down at the odometer. 2212miles! WTF? When we got back into the dealership lot and I looked in the bed a little closer. Scratch marks everywhere!

Well I thought that maybe they'd work a deal. Nope. MSRP was just over 24K, and they were asking 26K! I couldn't believe they had the guts to ask for 2k over MSRP for a car with 2200+miles. They said it was new because it didn't have a private owner. As I walked out I commented that it may not be preowned, but it is damn sure used.

What do you guys think?



Legally, it becomes used as soon as an application for title is filed. What you test drove was a car the dealership loaned out or allowed their staff to use. Stay away from them. Any car you test drive should never have more than 100 miles on it.

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 1:08:24 PM EST
All I know is that when we test drove the new dodge SRT-10 truck, the one with the viper engine & trans...we ran that bitch hard. The dealership isnt even supposed to drive them but we took that thing to 6,000 rpm and over 140mph. The salesman was telling me about how it would do burnouts in 3rd gear....and this truck had mabey 500 miles on it. If I had the cash to buy new I wan single digits on the odometer.
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