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Posted: 8/29/2004 2:03:09 PM EST
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aplocal_story.asp?category=6420&slug=WA%20Soldier%20Arrested
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:04:15 PM EST
I hope they march his ass out, stand him up against a wall and FIRE !!
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:04:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 2:05:17 PM EST by raven]
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:07:28 PM EST
Not high enough for my tastes.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:08:33 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:08:40 PM EST
In this pussyfied, "PC" age... about zero.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:10:25 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:11:46 PM EST
Link dead

- BG
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:12:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By EricTheHun:
None.

Eric The(Realistic)Hun




What he said
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:19:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 2:19:39 PM EST by MrsWildweasel]
Not gonna happen,he'll probably spend time taking big rocks and making them into little rocks, unfortunately.
Just some time at Leavenworth.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:21:16 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:28:09 PM EST
Not in this USA.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:31:48 PM EST
He'll get 10 yrs in a federal prison. Everyone will forget a bout him and he'll be out in 5.
Sad but true. He should get life without possibility of parole. He'll be popular wherever he ends up.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:33:06 PM EST
We've caught hundreds of spies/traitors since the beginning of the Cold War.

The last ones we executed were Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. Execution of spies has since fallen out of favor.

Link Posted: 8/29/2004 2:34:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By 50cal:
He'll get 10 yrs in a federal prison. Everyone will forget a bout him and he'll be out in 5.
Sad but true. He should get life without possibility of parole. He'll be popular wherever he ends up.



Ditto that...
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:21:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
We've caught hundreds of spies/traitors since the beginning of the Cold War.

The last ones we executed were Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. Execution of spies has since fallen out of favor.

www.cbsnews.com/images/2001/12/05/image320137.jpg



... Unfortunately.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:24:27 PM EST
Excuse my ignorance... who is Rebel Gray?
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:24:42 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:27:30 PM EST
who is Rebel Grey?
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:29:42 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:31:49 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:34:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 5:35:13 PM EST by raven]

Originally Posted By kpel308:

Originally Posted By repub18:
who is Rebel Grey?


Read the links. He used to post/troll here, saying he was a good Moslem and a good American soldier. Neither one was true.



He attempted to contact al-Qaeda over the internet. He instead contacted a Montana woman who trolls Islamic sites looking for al-Qaeda wanna-be's and passing info she gathers on to the FBI. RebelGrey, a National Guardsman in an armored unit about to deploy to Iraq, was looking for terrorists to give them any help or information he could offer to kill members of his unit. The FBI set up a sting, and nabbed him.

He was an active member here for a while, who constantly insisted you could be both a devout Muslim and a loyal American.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:35:21 PM EST
Not good enough.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:36:19 PM EST
ZERO
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:50:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By raven:

He attempted to contact al-Qaeda over the internet. He instead contacted a Montana woman who trolls Islamic sites looking for al-Qaeda wanna-be's and passing info she gathers on to the FBI. RebelGrey, a National Guardsman in an armored unit about to deploy to Iraq, was looking for terrorists to give them any help or information he could offer to kill members of his unit. The FBI set up a sting, and nabbed him.

He was an active member here for a while, who constantly insisted you could be both a devout Muslim and a loyal American.




Interesting. Thanks for the info, the link doesn't work and I guess I'm too new to have seen the things go down.

Damn, actually plotting to kill your own team members is about as shitty as you can get.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:54:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
He attempted to contact al-Qaeda over the internet. He instead contacted a Montana woman who trolls Islamic sites looking for al-Qaeda wanna-be's and passing info she gathers on to the FBI. RebelGrey, a National Guardsman in an armored unit about to deploy to Iraq, was looking for terrorists to give them any help or information he could offer to kill members of his unit. The FBI set up a sting, and nabbed him.

He was an active member here for a while, who constantly insisted you could be both a devout Muslim and a loyal American.



WOW! No Shit?

I must have been asleep or something. I totally missed that whole thing.

Get a rope.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:58:21 PM EST
I remeber that story, didnt he want to take muslims out and learn how to shoot?
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:59:42 PM EST
I would say 0% now. If this was sometime after the election, 30%.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:59:56 PM EST
Does anyone have any links to some of his topics??
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:02:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By raven:

He was an active member here for a while, who constantly insisted you could be both a devout Muslim and a loyal American.




Careful, people have been banned here for suggesting these people are not what they claim to be.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:09:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By raven:

Originally Posted By kpel308:

Originally Posted By repub18:
who is Rebel Grey?


Read the links. He used to post/troll here, saying he was a good Moslem and a good American soldier. Neither one was true.



He attempted to contact al-Qaeda over the internet. He instead contacted a Montana woman who trolls Islamic sites looking for al-Qaeda wanna-be's and passing info she gathers on to the FBI. RebelGrey, a National Guardsman in an armored unit about to deploy to Iraq, was looking for terrorists to give them any help or information he could offer to kill members of his unit. The FBI set up a sting, and nabbed him.

He was an active member here for a while, who constantly insisted you could be both a devout Muslim and a loyal American.






Man I remember that guy. I of course missed the big news about him. Anybody got any links from that guy in the past?

And no, unfortunately traitors aren't executed anymore.

Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:10:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
We've caught hundreds of spies/traitors since the beginning of the Cold War.

The last ones we executed were Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. Execution of spies has since fallen out of favor.

www.cbsnews.com/images/2001/12/05/image320137.jpg



+1. And its a damn shame. All those fuckers should die............

Ready.........


Aim...........


Shoot that fucking traitor!!!!!!
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:15:49 PM EST




Originally Posted By raven:
... who constantly insisted you could be both a devout Muslim and a loyal American.




Guess he was wrong in this case. To bad the powers that be won't learn.

Profiling=common sense

Sorry, but the common thread in the WOT is a bunch of radical muslims attacking the US. Hmmmmm, seems like we should look for radical muslims. Not grandma taking a pocket knife to her grandkid.

Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:17:21 PM EST
far far too low. FBI turn blind eye to a hit? lol
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:21:45 PM EST
Wow I had no idea, I vaguely remember that guy posting here.

Unfriggin-believable! What a fuct up dude.

sometimes the amount of info on this site is just unreal.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:25:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By raven:

He attempted to contact al-Qaeda over the internet. He instead contacted a Montana woman who trolls Islamic sites looking for al-Qaeda wanna-be's and passing info she gathers on to the FBI. RebelGrey, a National Guardsman in an armored unit about to deploy to Iraq, was looking for terrorists to give them any help or information he could offer to kill members of his unit. The FBI set up a sting, and nabbed him.

He was an active member here for a while, who constantly insisted you could be both a devout Muslim and a loyal American.



Holy shit!

When the hell did THIS happen? Wasn't he just nabbed for screwing up some paperwork, or was that someone else?

Damn! SOB should be fried in pig fat until DEAD......
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:36:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 7:37:30 PM EST by Sierra_Hombre]
treason/attempted treason/anything close to treason = death
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:45:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
He attempted to contact al-Qaeda over the internet. He instead contacted a Montana woman who trolls Islamic sites looking for al-Qaeda wanna-be's and passing info she gathers on to the FBI. RebelGrey, a National Guardsman in an armored unit about to deploy to Iraq, was looking for terrorists to give them any help or information he could offer to kill members of his unit. The FBI set up a sting, and nabbed him.

He was an active member here for a while, who constantly insisted you could be both a devout Muslim and a loyal American.



Thanks Raven.

I remember the guy. And the posts after he was nabbed. But I never heard HOW he got nabbed.

Give that lady in Montana two cookies. She deserves them. Aaaw hell. Give her the whole dozen.

RebelGrey's chance of execution? slim to none and slim just left town.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:47:41 PM EST
(in my best Dana Carvey voice)... "Not gonna do it, wouldn't be prudent..."
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:49:38 PM EST
Zilch. So far all the muslim-converts-traitors-in-uniform have got off easy.
The only one likely to get put down is Hassan Ackbar, for his murderous grenade attack on his higher HQ's TOC staff, on the eve of GW2. And his Court Martial just got off the ground a couple weeks ago.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:53:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 7:56:32 PM EST by raven]
The pisser is that he held himself up as an example of how you could be a loyal American while being a devout Muslim (he was a convert, by the way; a whitebread type with a college degree in history. He was a NG EM). Then he goes and does this.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:53:35 PM EST
Depends......

How well liked do you think he's gonna be by his new "friends" at Leavenworth?
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:59:46 PM EST
How in the fuck can you guys who have been here for any length of time say you have never heard this.

I have been posting about this shitstain here since day one.

Every time an update comes along I post it.

Fuck, I'll bet a beer that some of you guys saying "wow, never heard this" have responses to my posts about this fuck.

Go do a search on rebelgray, guard tanker or Ryan Anderson.





Sunday, August 29, 2004 · Last updated 7:58 p.m. PT

Trial to begin for guardsman accused of trying to help al-Qaida

By MELANTHIA MITCHELL
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

SEATTLE -- Spc. Ryan Anderson is shown on videotape willingly sharing military information with federal undercover agents he believed to be al-Qaida members.

The evidence will make it challenging for Anderson's defense as the Washington National Guard soldier now faces a military trial on charges he tried to help the terrorist group.

Anderson's court martial is set to begin Monday at the Army's Fort Lewis. It is expected to last five days.

The 27-year-old tank crewman with the Guard's 81st Armor Brigade, now in Iraq, is charged with five counts of trying to provide the al-Qaida terrorist network with information about U.S. troop strength and tactics, as well as methods for killing American soldiers.

He faces life in prison without parole. A conviction requires agreement by two-thirds of a panel of commissioned officers, unlike a federal trial that requires a unanimous decision.

Anderson, a Muslim convert, pleaded innocent to charges Aug. 9. He requested his general court martial be heard by commissioned officers rather than a judge or a mixed panel of officers and enlisted soldiers.

"He's making a tactical decision. They believe the officers, given this type of charge, will give him the fair shake," said David Sheldon, a Washington, D.C., attorney who specializes in military law.

Specifics of the case have been guarded, with Anderson's attorney, Maj. Joseph Morse, and military prosecutor, Maj. Chris Jenks, refusing to comment.

It's not known what evidence the defense will offer or who will testify on Anderson's behalf.

In June, Morse was denied a request that the government pay for a psychologist to help prepare his case. Judge Col. Debra Boudreau said the defense was free to pay one on its own.

Fort Lewis officials have not said whether Anderson has undergone a psychological evaluation.

Such an expert would help determine whether Anderson understands his conduct was wrong, said Sheldon, and therefore whether he should be held criminally responsible.

"In any federal court where this type of issue was litigated an expert would be provided," Sheldon said. "In a military court, sadly, this type of result is the routine, not the exception."

Anderson was raised Lutheran but began studying Islam while attending Washington State University. He's been described by high school classmates in Everett as a paramilitary enthusiast who was passionate about guns.

Anderson caught the attention of federal agents last year with help from a Montana city judge.

Shannen Rossmiller of Conrad, Mont., testified at Anderson's Article 32 hearing in May that she monitors the Web for signs of extremist or terrorist activity. She said she came across a posting in October on a Muslim-oriented site by an "Amir Abdul Rashid."

Several Internet searches linked the name and e-mail address to Anderson, and Rossmiller said when she posted a phony call to jihad against the United States, Rashid wrote back.

"He was curious if a brother fighting on the wrong side could join or defect," she said during testimony.

Rossmiller contacted the federal Homeland Security Department, which put her in touch with the FBI.

Soon Anderson was text messaging a federal agent he believed was a member of al-Qaida. The conversations culminated in a face-to-face meeting with two undercover investigators at a parking lot near the Space Needle in Seattle. The hour-long discussion was secretly recorded Feb. 9, just days before Anderson was to deploy to Iraq.

On the video, Anderson offers sketches and information about weaknesses in the M1A1 Abrams, the Army's primary battle tank.

"While I love my country, I think the leaders have taken this horrible road," he said on the video. "I have no belief in what the American Army has asked me to do. They have sent me to die."

Three days after the meeting, Anderson was arrested at Fort Lewis, south of Seattle. He remains jailed at the fort's Regional Corrections Facility.


http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aplocal_story.asp?category=6420&slug=WA%20Soldier%20Arrested


Montana judge says she snared indicted guardsman on Internet
Northwest Thursday, May 13, 2004

Montana judge says she snared indicted guardsman on Internet
Soldier accused of trying to aid U.S. foes faces military hearing


A military police officer escorts Shannen Rossmiller of Conrad, Mont., to her car Wednesday at Fort Lewis after she testified as a witness at a military hearing for Spc. Ryan G. Anderson. Anderson faces five charges for allegedly trying to provide the al-Qaida network with information about U.S. troop strength and tactics, as well as methods for killing U.S. soldiers.

FORT LEWIS -- A Montana city judge who doubles as an Internet sleuth helped catch a National Guard member accused of trying to help al-Qaida, according to testimony given Wednesday at a military hearing for the guardsman.

Judge Shannen Rossmiller of Conrad, Mont., testified she was monitoring the Web for signs of "extremist" or "terrorist" activity last October when she came across a posting on a Muslim-oriented site by an "Amir Abdul Rashid."

Through a string of Internet searches, she said, she linked the name and e-mail address to Spc. Ryan G. Anderson, a Muslim convert and Fort Lewis-based National Guardsman now charged with five counts of trying to provide al-Qaida with information about U.S. troop strength and tactics as well as methods for killing U.S. soldiers.

Rossmiller was the first witness called when Anderson's military hearing began Wednesday. She identified herself as a member of 7-Seas.net, a global organization that tracks anti-U.S. activity and provides the information to government and military officials.

After she saw the posting from "Rashid," she posted a phony call to jihad against the United States. Rashid wrote back.

"He was curious if a brother fighting on the wrong side could join or defect," she said.

After a series of e-mails, Rossmiller contacted the Homeland Security Department, which put her in touch with the FBI.

Anderson, 26, was arrested in February after he allegedly tried to pass information to undercover Army investigators. Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, those convicted of trying to aid the enemy can face the death penalty.

Yee at hearing

Among those at Anderson's hearing was Olympia resident Capt. James Yee, a Muslim chaplain at Fort Lewis who until recently was embroiled in an investigation of suspected espionage at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp in Cuba. In March, the Army dismissed all criminal charges against Yee, including a charge of mishandling classified material.

Yee refused to say, and Army officials refused to disclose, why he attended the hearing.

The prosecutors, Maj. Chris Jenks and Maj. Timothy MacDonnell, showed a nearly hour-long videotape of a meeting between Anderson and two investigators posing as al-Qaida members. On the tape, Anderson told the two about weaknesses in the M1A1 Abrams, the Army's main battle tank, and presented sketches of it.

"While I love my country, I think the leaders have taken this horrible road," Anderson said on the video. "I have no belief in what the American Army has asked me to do. They have sent me to die."

The meeting took place in a vehicle near the Space Needle in Seattle on Feb. 9; Anderson was to be deployed to Iraq within days.

During the second half of Wednesday's proceeding at this Army base north of Olympia, the government called two civilian witnesses who work for the military and two FBI agents.

The two military witnesses testified that Anderson's statements about the vulnerability of the Abrams tank were accurate.

One of the FBI witnesses was involved in a search of Anderson's apartment that yielded a computer on which the FBI found e-mail exchanges with Rossmiller.

The proceeding was an Article 32 hearing, similar to a preliminary hearing in civilian court. After hearing the Army's evidence against Anderson, the investigating officer, Col. Patrick J. Reinert, will recommend whether he should face a court martial. Reinert's recommendation will go to the base commander at Fort Lewis, Lt. Gen. Edward Soriano, who will decide whether Anderson will be tried and whether he could face the death penalty.

Anderson has spent the last three months jailed at the Regional Corrections Facility at Fort Lewis, where his brigade was based. The hearing is scheduled to continue this morning in a closed session because of what the Army described as security concerns.

http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20040513/northwest/49002_ARC.shtml
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 8:05:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By KA3B:
How in the fuck can you guys who have been here for any length of time say you have never heard this.

I have been posting about this shitstain here since day one.

Every time an update comes along I post it.

Fuck, I'll bet a beer that some of you guys saying "wow, never heard this" have responses to my posts about this fuck.

Go do a search on rebelgray, guard tanker or Ryan Anderson.




Sorry, but most of us don't have the time to read every single thread posted here.

I did a search for RebelGray, and three threads come up. This one, another one talking about him, and one in which he replied with a picture of a SAR.

Chill, dude, and thanks for the articles.

Fucker should be fed to the dogs..........ALIVE and ON LIVE TV.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 8:07:08 PM EST
It is unfortunate that they no longer execute these types,but it's the way of our PC society....not surprising.

On the other hand,what are the chances this turd gets a daily ass stretch in prison?
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 8:12:09 PM EST
not e-fucking-nough.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 8:13:20 PM EST
Not if you give me 5 minutes and a 3 foot section of barbed wire. He's not escaping punishment.

Fort Leavenworth, Here I come!

Ben
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 8:14:31 PM EST
None. I don't think it's common practice for us to execute spies and traitors anymore unfortunately.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 9:00:13 PM EST
You want justice? Handcuff him and then turn him over to his unit.
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