Quoted:
It is history.

Only one man in all of American History has a federal holiday just for him.

If we excise the skeletons of all our other heroes, why not this one?

I think it a valid question.

What is the Project's response to the accusations of plagiarism against Dr. King?

The Martin Luther King, Jr. Papers Project addresses these concerns on pp. 25-26 of Volume II of The Papers of Martin Luther King, Jr. entitled "Rediscovering Precious Values, July 1951-November 1955," Clayborne Carson, Senior Editor. Following is an excerpt from these pages:

. . . .The readers of King's dissertation, L. Harold DeWolf and S. Paul Schilling, a professor of systematic theology who had recently arrived at Boston University, failed to notice King's problematic use of sources. After reading a draft of the dissertation, DeWolf criticized him for failing to make explicit "presuppositions and norms employed in the critical evaluation," but his comments were largely positive. He commended King for his handling of a "difficult" topic "with broad learning, impressive ability and convincing mastery of the works immediately involved." Schilling found two problems with King's citation practices while reading the draft, but dismissed these as anomalous and praised the dissertation in his Second Reader's report. . . .

As was true of King's other academic papers, the plagiaries in his dissertation escaped detection in his lifetime. His professors at Boston, like those at Crozer, saw King as an earnest and even gifted student who presented consistent, though evolving, theological identity in his essays, exams and classroom comments. . . .Although the extent of King's plagiaries suggest he knew that he was at least skirting academic norms, the extant documents offer no direct evidence in this matter. Thus he may have simply become convinced, on the basis of his grades at Crozer and Boston, that his papers were sufficiently competent to withstand critical scrutiny. Moreover, King's actions during his early adulthood indicate that he increasingly saw himself as a preacher appropriating theological scholarship rather than as an academic producing such scholarship. . . .

Quoted:
I guess I'm in the "Who cares" category. The man's been dead for thirty-five years. It's a little late to worry about any alleged academic dishonesty now.

Quoted:
You have a lock button?

Quoted:


I meant "delete" - I can delete a topic, right?

Quoted:
You have a lock button?

Quoted:
I guess I'm in the "Who cares" category. The man's been dead for thirty-five years. It's a little late to worry about any alleged academic dishonesty now.

Quoted:
Man, took the words out of my mouth.  Was King reknown for his scholarship, or his civil rights activism?

I think the worst thing you can say about King was that he was an adulterer.  I think he had income redistribution politics, but since he never had political power to enact his beliefs, big deal.

Quoted:


Man, took the words out of my mouth.  Was King reknown for his scholarship, or his civil rights activism?

I think the worst thing you can say about King was that he was an adulterer.  I think he had income redistribution politics, but since he never had political power to enact his beliefs, big deal.

Quoted:
Back on topic why should it not be well known that he plagerized on his dissertation? [red]It is historical fact [/red] and people should be allowed to make up their own minds as to what the facts mean. I guess the problem that I have with it is my little brother going to school being told that George Washington was a bad guy because he owned slaves, but if he were to mention that MLK plagerized on his dissertation he would be sent to the office. Lets have a free exchange of information, there is nothing wrong with asking.

Quoted:...is my little brother going to school being told that George Washington was a bad guy because he owned slaves, but if he were to mention that MLK plagerized on his dissertation he would be sent to the office...

Quoted:
That's all I'm asking about - is there some site that talks about this beyond what DzlBnz quoted?

To me, not properly citing a couple of arguments in a complex dissertation is very different from blatant plagarizing.


I do agree completely that this isn't "important" in any real meaning of the word - I was just curious because it was the first time I have heard it, and I HATE academic dishonesty and fraud.

Quoted:


This [b]IS[/b] in fact what would happen or you believe that it would happen if he, indeed, did say that?

Quoted:
yipper, this falls directly inbetween who cares and who gives a shit..lol

I HATE academic dishonesty and fraud.

all the US Pres. get lumped into one day

Didn't Arkansas refuse to make his day a holiday, for a long time.

Quoted:


I believe that this is what would happen. If interpreted as racism (they interpret hands as guns now, it would be interpreted this way) he would be suspended by the school code. Zero Tolerance, haven't you heard?

Quoted:


No, not all, just Washington and Lincoln. Columbus gets a day, too.

No, it's Presidents Day. Not just for Washington and Lincoln. It replaced the days for Washington & Lincoln, when they wanted to add a day for yet another Pres . . . and ended up making one day for all the Presidents.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quoted:
yipper, this falls directly inbetween who cares and who gives a shit..lol
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




If all of you guys really didn't care we wouldn't be getting so many of your posts pointing out that you didn't care.

Take a little chance and explain why you don't think it is important, or take a big chance and explain why you think it is.

Quoted:
That's all I'm asking about - is there some site that talks about this beyond what DzlBnz quoted?