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Posted: 2/1/2011 9:28:01 AM EDT
The title says it all.

All things considered, which would you choose and why?

Thanks.

Poll inbound.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:29:38 AM EDT
*popcorn.gif*
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:30:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/1/2011 9:31:24 AM EDT by USMC6177]
I got both

ML3
XPS 3-0
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:31:21 AM EDT
I chose EoTech.

I like the reticle. It is more precise and acts as a defacto range finder.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:31:23 AM EDT
Both are good optics.. but the Aimpoint is going to be more reliable, with an infinitely longer battery life.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:32:02 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:32:05 AM EDT
Both are really good.

I like EOtech more though because it has a larger field of view.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:33:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/1/2011 9:35:52 AM EDT by Rockdoc]
I got one of each in 2004 to fairly evaluate the pluses and minuses of each.







I now have two Aimpoints.



The Eotech went TU with the battery problem typical of them at that time during training. Fiddling with it and it worked fine. Sold it.


The older Aimpoints have great battery life, just not the same as the new ones.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:34:30 AM EDT
Aimpoint.

Dont look back.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:37:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By EasTexan:
Aimpoint.

Dont look back.


Yep.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:42:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/1/2011 9:44:55 AM EDT by --bullseye--]
I want to like Aimpoints, but I have an astigmatism that can't be perfectly corrected by contact lenses. I get a slight starburst effect with Aimpoint style red dots. It's not bad, but it's enough to bother me. The EOTech's holographic reticle doesn't give me any problems though...not sure what the technical/physiological reason for that is.

I don't own either at the moment, but I have used multiple examples of both. I think I will get a transverse battery model EOTech in the distant future when I actually have money to spend on such a thing.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:43:43 AM EDT
I have Aimpoints and EoTechs.

I prefer the EoTechs because I like the reticle better.

EoTechs are also made in the US, whereas the Aimpoint is not.

In the end, you won't go wrong with either.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:44:29 AM EDT
Aimpoint owner checking in .
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:47:17 AM EDT
Another happy Aimpoint owner checking in.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:51:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Sturmgewehr-JD:
I chose EoTech.

I like the reticle. It is more precise and acts as a defacto range finder.




Rangefinder?How?

Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:55:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/1/2011 9:55:58 AM EDT by pcsutton]

Originally Posted By carguym14:
Originally Posted By Sturmgewehr-JD:
I chose EoTech.

I like the reticle. It is more precise and acts as a defacto range finder.




Rangefinder?How?


Eotech now offers a reticle that has 2 dots, one for 100 yd zero, and one for 300 yds. More a BDC than a rangefinder.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:04:26 AM EDT
They are both really great optics. My step brother has the Aimpoint and it's very nice. I am more of a fan of the Eotech because of the redicle, kind of a mix of a scope sight(cross hairs) and a red dot. I also like how open the optic is, I can aquire the redicle on an Eotech faster than I can on an Aimpoint, but that can be fixed with training... I just prefer Eotech, but will probably own both eventually.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:11:13 AM EDT
Aimpoint ML3 with 2MOA dot - better battery life, simpler reticle, super-robust.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:11:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By EasTexan:
Aimpoint.

Dont look back.


Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:12:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/1/2011 10:14:55 AM EDT by JamesP81]
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
The title says it all.

All things considered, which would you choose and why?

Thanks.

Poll inbound.


Tough choice. I love the EOTech's reticle, and I much prefer the HUD style to tube style. I just wish it didn't eat batteries so fast.

I find that I have issues, sometimes, with both eyes open shooting with tube style red dots. I get a double of the tube and it's distracting. That doesn't happen with the EOTech. Much easier for me to use it.

ETA: I'm in the middle of a build right now, and I have a Trijicon TA33 to put on it....but I've really thought about selling it and going back to an XPS 3-0. With EOTechs, it's like cheating when it comes to shooting quickly.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:13:32 AM EDT
meh........Chevy vs Ford
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:14:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By carguym14:
Originally Posted By Sturmgewehr-JD:
I chose EoTech.

I like the reticle. It is more precise and acts as a defacto range finder.




Rangefinder?How?




The 65 moa circle........?

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Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:17:20 AM EDT
I have 6 Aimpoints....

Love them.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:19:14 AM EDT
IIRC, the EOTech battery lead problems were fixed with revision F. Auto turn off can be either 4 or 8 hours after you turn it on. If I have the EO at my bedside, I just hit the 8hr button before going to sleep.

Both are good, with the advantages of reticle & battery life as listed above. I have an EO 552, an ML3 2MOA, and an older M2 4MOA, and am happy with all of them. If you don't mind a little shorter battery life, you can often find great deals on M2s.

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Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:19:27 AM EDT
Aside from trying someone's Aimpoint back in '02, I have no experience with them. However, I also tried someone's EOTech. Been running an EOTech ever since. Super fast, both eyes open target acquisition and accurate out to 200 yards.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:22:09 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Aside from trying someone's Aimpoint back in '02, I have no experience with them. However, I also tried someone's EOTech. Been running an EOTech ever since. Super fast, both eyes open target acquisition and accurate out to 200 yards.


You know, if L3 and Trijicon could get together to make a tritium powered EOTech, that would be double extra awesome
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:26:04 AM EDT
Aimpoint i have had both. I sold the Eotech.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:27:36 AM EDT
My new favorite is the Leupold Prismatic
Lighted reticle when you want it, still have an aiming point if your batteries shoot craps.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:28:44 AM EDT
I prefer the EOTech's reticle and window, I prefer the Aimpoints brightness adjustment and battery life.

No easy answer IMO. The battery issue is a big damn deal to me, and so is the reticle issue. Which means I'm not truly satisfied by either......
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:31:14 AM EDT
I had both - prefer the Eotech sight.

Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:31:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By KiowaCreekRaider:
My new favorite is the Leupold Prismatic
Lighted reticle when you want it, still have an aiming point if your batteries shoot craps.

Cool, I need to check these out...

http://www.leupold.com/tactical/products/scopes/prismatic-riflescope/prismatic-1x14mm-tactical-illum-reticle/

Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:32:12 AM EDT
I have an aimpoint and an Eotech
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:32:21 AM EDT
Aimpoint. But I have both and understand why one would choose EOtechs too. Namely, price.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:40:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Sturmgewehr-JD:
I chose EoTech.

I like the reticle. It is more precise and acts as a defacto range finder.


Agreed. I was considering getting both, but I've come accustomed to the EoTech. I feel like the AimPoint would make me less accurate over longer range shots.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:42:45 AM EDT
Aimpoint ML3.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:49:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pcsutton:

Originally Posted By carguym14:
Originally Posted By Sturmgewehr-JD:
I chose EoTech.

I like the reticle. It is more precise and acts as a defacto range finder.




Rangefinder?How?


Eotech now offers a reticle that has 2 dots, one for 100 yd zero, and one for 300 yds. More a BDC than a rangefinder.

I think he means the large circle=65 MOA or ~ 5 1/2 feet at 100 yards (probably a little more because we are talking MOA, but anyway approximately the avg. height of adult male).

If a man standing (assuming he's average height) reaches end to end of the larger circle he's ~100 yards and if he reaches bottom of circle to the center dot ~200 years.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:55:24 AM EDT
I have an Aimpoint Comp M2 and an Eotech 553.
I love the Aimpoint.
I hate the Eotech.
YMMV
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:59:16 AM EDT
I pick on a buddy who has an Eotech.



He has to make sure he has spare batteries where ever he goes. I bring a spare battery because I could have left my Aimpoints on for 10,000+ hours and forgot to turn it off.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 11:10:13 AM EDT
Aimpoint. So your batteries last longer when the SHTF.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 11:10:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/1/2011 11:11:19 AM EDT by Zaphod]
Opinions noted. Thanks!

Next purchase will be the AimPoint. I've managed to end up with two EOTechs over the years, and I'll be holding on to them, too.

For the record, the intended application for the optic I was debating IS for a SHTF scenario, so the battery life is a DEFINITE plus in Aimpoint's favor.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 11:29:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Both are really good.

I like EOtech more though because it has a larger field of view.


There is no field of view with both eyes open.

I have both, new to EOTech. Got the EOTech for the lower price, and hoping most of the issues have been worked out now. OP - You didn't say what you're using it for.


Both are nice. My go-to has an Aimpoint. Great battery life, can be left on. From the issues posted on Arfcom I'd say more reliable, and more durable. The base of the EOTech unit is plastic. For the cost, the Aimpoint uses a less common battery but will last years. My 11 year old CompM is on it's 3rd battery. Once I left it on for months accidentally from a daylight setting.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 11:36:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Opinions noted. Thanks!

Next purchase will be the AimPoint. I've managed to end up with two EOTechs over the years, and I'll be holding on to them, too.

For the record, the intended application for the optic I was debating IS for a SHTF scenario, so the battery life is a DEFINITE plus in Aimpoint's favor.


Then you may want to look heavily at biting the bullet and going with the M4 - It's nice and uses AAs, just the price is a hard pill to swallow.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 11:39:27 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Gator:
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Opinions noted. Thanks!

Next purchase will be the AimPoint. I've managed to end up with two EOTechs over the years, and I'll be holding on to them, too.

For the record, the intended application for the optic I was debating IS for a SHTF scenario, so the battery life is a DEFINITE plus in Aimpoint's favor.


Then you may want to look heavily at biting the bullet and going with the M4 - It's nice and uses AAs, just the price is a hard pill to swallow.


Or a Trijicon Reflex sight. No batteries ... ever.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 11:56:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/1/2011 11:59:02 AM EDT by Gator]
Originally Posted By macman37:
Originally Posted By Gator:
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Opinions noted. Thanks!

Next purchase will be the AimPoint. I've managed to end up with two EOTechs over the years, and I'll be holding on to them, too.

For the record, the intended application for the optic I was debating IS for a SHTF scenario, so the battery life is a DEFINITE plus in Aimpoint's favor.


Then you may want to look heavily at biting the bullet and going with the M4 - It's nice and uses AAs, just the price is a hard pill to swallow.


Or a Trijicon Reflex sight. No batteries ... ever.


I really want to try a Trijicon, I just can't bring myself to do it.

Last year when I was deciding what to get, it hit me that if I got an Acog when I got my Comp M the illumination would be near useless, and Trijicon charges way too much to refresh the tritium. Few bucks for a battery and my CompM (yeah the original one) is good as new. They also suffer washout where Aimpoints do not.


We can go back to pointy sticks and rocks since they don't rely on dry powder and primers, but we got modern cartridges pretty darn reliable.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 11:57:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Chadthirty:
Originally Posted By carguym14:
Originally Posted By Sturmgewehr-JD:
I chose EoTech.

I like the reticle. It is more precise and acts as a defacto range finder.




Rangefinder?How?




The 65 moa circle........?

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Ayup.

Works great out to 400 yards or so.

I figure in a SHTF scenario, anything past 400 yards is best avoided or (if i really have to) engaged with my .30-06

Link Posted: 2/1/2011 11:58:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Gator:

I really want to try a Trijicon, I just can't bring myself to do it.

Last year when I was deciding what to get, it hit me that if I got an Acog when I got my Comp M the illumination would be near useless, and Trijicon charges way too much to refresh the tritium. Few bucks for a battery and my CompM (yeah the original one) is good as new.


We can go back to pointy sticks and rocks since they don't rely on dry powder and primers, but we got modern cartridges pretty darn reliable.


Honestly... I was just in the position of needing a new red dot and had the same choice. It came down to cost, and while I had the choice of Aimpoint Micro, CompM4, Reflex or EOtech, I ended up with the EOthing due to cost.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 12:02:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By macman37:
Originally Posted By Gator:

I really want to try a Trijicon, I just can't bring myself to do it.

Last year when I was deciding what to get, it hit me that if I got an Acog when I got my Comp M the illumination would be near useless, and Trijicon charges way too much to refresh the tritium. Few bucks for a battery and my CompM (yeah the original one) is good as new.


We can go back to pointy sticks and rocks since they don't rely on dry powder and primers, but we got modern cartridges pretty darn reliable.


Honestly... I was just in the position of needing a new red dot and had the same choice. It came down to cost, and while I had the choice of Aimpoint Micro, CompM4, Reflex or EOtech, I ended up with the EOthing due to cost.


I just picked up an EOTech for cost as well, a used 552 with a LaRue mount. But I already have a Comp M and a Comp M4.


Comp M4 - somehow they managed to get the battery drain to the point where an AA will die sitting alone on the shelf in the same amount of time.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 12:06:02 PM EDT
Aimpoint.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 12:08:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/1/2011 12:09:07 PM EDT by VBC]
I deer hunted with an Aimpoint 9000sc on my slug gun last season, from first light to last light several days. The only thing I didn't like is having to click it up in brightness every 15 minutes or so as the sun came up and then doing the reverse as the sun went down. At total dark, anything over the 1 setting is too bright, then at full noon sunshine you have to be at full illumination or just one click under.

I think I'm going to try an EOTech next and put it on an AR.

Link Posted: 2/1/2011 12:08:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/1/2011 12:09:22 PM EDT by Zhukov]
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 12:10:22 PM EDT
I've run both on my duty rifle.

I like the Aimpoint better. The zero on the Eotech drifted slightly due to trunk rattle.

Both optics are quality.
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