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Posted: 9/22/2005 8:06:03 PM EDT
[#1]
I'd just kidnap whatever is left of Jack Bauer's family and let him do the work for me.
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Posted: 9/22/2005 8:07:58 PM EDT
[#2]
No women, no kids.
Enough force to get the job done. |
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Posted: 9/22/2005 8:08:45 PM EDT
[#3]
Any means necessary.
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Posted: 9/22/2005 8:08:56 PM EDT
[#4]
A la Red Dawn?
Anything. Those that invade my beloved country will find no tactics are too low, or too brutal, as they will likewise think nothing is too brutal for the civilians they are here to enslave/murder/capture. WOLVERINES! |
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Posted: 9/22/2005 8:10:30 PM EDT
[#5]
....and post pics!! |
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Posted: 9/22/2005 8:11:47 PM EDT
[#6]
Ever watch RED DAWN?
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Posted: 9/22/2005 8:13:58 PM EDT
[#7]
Direct and to the point. Gotta love a guy who doesn't even have to think about it. Then again, I just noticed your screen name. 
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Posted: 9/22/2005 8:14:38 PM EDT
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 CoC |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 6:01:39 AM EDT
[#9]
Heh. I have a feeling those words were echoed by some "feedom fighter" haji in Iraq... |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 7:04:16 AM EDT
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Hannah_Reitsch got banned for suggesting that she would hang their intestines from the streetlamps.
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Posted: 9/23/2005 7:06:08 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2005 7:11:07 AM EDT
[#12]
Like Malcolm the Tenth said, By any means necessary.
"Because we live here" |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 7:13:50 AM EDT
[#13]
<--see left. No tactic is to low. If our country ever has a war on its own soil, any non american/non ally will die if presented in my line of fire. |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 7:17:45 AM EDT
[#14]
Wolverines!!!!
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Posted: 9/23/2005 7:19:40 AM EDT
[#15]
All is fair in war. No questions asked.
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Posted: 9/23/2005 7:19:55 AM EDT
[#16]
Just win baby.
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Posted: 9/23/2005 7:22:54 AM EDT
[#17]
Take their deck of spell cards away from them.
There's no possible way on God's good green earth for Red Dawn to occur. Impossilbe short of magic spells and Hollywood movies. |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 7:24:31 AM EDT
[#18]
If you want a fair fight, take up boxing.
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Posted: 9/23/2005 7:25:27 AM EDT
[#19]
The only fair fight is the one you lose. American's don't like to lose. 
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Posted: 9/23/2005 7:31:17 AM EDT
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It's an interesting question. What exactly is the moral status of a person living in comfort off the fat of my land, by force of the arms of others? I think that it would be possible to dissuade occupiers from "colonising" well before one had to consider resorting to things he might regret.
Of course, there are no "off-duty" invaders/occupiers, and no "safe zones" for them. |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 7:33:17 AM EDT
[#21]
exactly! 
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Posted: 9/23/2005 7:36:59 AM EDT
[#22]
it shoud say "too many times" |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 9:52:47 AM EDT
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This will probably get me a through-the-net beating, but I wouldn't resort to some of the actions mentioned in the post. I'm an American and as such I'll hold myself to the same standards our troops are expected to fight under. I'd target combatants, of course, and installed government officers and such if it were beneficial. I'd target rear echelon and support operations but would try to minimize casualties as much as possible. If it's impossible but the target must be destroyed, fine. But I'll do what I can to fight honorably. To my mind, "never fight fair" means take every advantage you can against an enemy- but I don't consider it to mean "target women and children and commit atrocities".
As a christian, I would do whatever I could to try to avoid losing God's blessing and protection. Plus, I will not fight like a jihaadi. |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 11:48:31 AM EDT
[#24]
[Robert] I'll do it [/Robert]
[Burst of AK fire] 
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Posted: 9/23/2005 11:52:32 AM EDT
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i would kidnap his grandmother and his pet poodle if it would help at all...besides id just kill them anyways
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Posted: 9/23/2005 11:53:16 AM EDT
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Protecting your country from it's invaders and those who come with them to live off your efforts and nation is "fighting like a jihaadi?"  What's the fucking point of fighting if you're not fighting to win? |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 12:02:19 PM EDT
[#27]
Your line should say "should". If you are going to be a spelling Nazi, don't fuck up.
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Posted: 9/23/2005 12:02:30 PM EDT
[#28]
Those hajis blatantly target Iraqi civilians. Big difference between being a suicide bomber and taking out military targets, and massacring innocent people. |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 12:06:26 PM EDT
[#29]
To play the devil's advocate- By that logic, then an insurgent shooting an American soldier is justified? |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 12:25:12 PM EDT
[#30]
As long as no physical harm comes to them from "us".
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Posted: 9/23/2005 12:27:43 PM EDT
[#31]
Here's a question: would you target civillian (including women and children) collaborators?
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Posted: 9/23/2005 12:29:47 PM EDT
[#32]
That one is a little more difficult to answer. If their actions are a direct threat to me or mine, then yes. I would prefer not to if it was not necessary though. They can be dealt with properly after the invasion is repelled. 
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Posted: 9/23/2005 12:30:52 PM EDT
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In a real fight, if you think that we would be more noble or honorable than Chechyan rebels, you got another think coming....
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Posted: 9/23/2005 12:42:30 PM EDT
[#34]
No, war is never justified. |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 12:43:07 PM EDT
[#35]
Go to every gun store I bought from and burn the FORM 4473.
Defeat the Red Dawn tactic before it can be used against us. |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 12:43:18 PM EDT
[#36]
Nevermind.
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Posted: 9/23/2005 12:45:42 PM EDT
[#37]
Those tactics are for us to discuss at the next local SHTF Group meeting
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Posted: 9/23/2005 12:59:38 PM EDT
[#38]
Translation is necessary: In times of war we call them collaborators, in times of peace we call them liberals |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 1:02:43 PM EDT
[#39]
Bully ! I did not sign the Geneva Convention. If the General of an invading army is silly enough to place his family in harms way, he is silly enough to lose them. |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 1:11:29 PM EDT
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+1 |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 1:13:55 PM EDT
[#41]
+1 Anything would go at that point. HH |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 1:22:27 PM EDT
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It would depend on their tactics. If the enemy is targeting civilians and non-combatants, it would be on like Donkey Kong. If they are only targeting those fighting against them directly, I would be less likely to attack their civilians.
All that aside, if they have any sort of uniform, they are fair game to me. |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 2:46:04 PM EDT
[#43]
If their family is on our soil, they ARE invaders. If they are stupid enough to bring their family, ALL of um will get what's coming to um! So I'll just send my daughters to take care of um.
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Posted: 9/23/2005 4:24:00 PM EDT
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+1 I hate the expression 'War Crimes'. It is a myth. The only crime in war is not winning. Now if treating prisoners in a humane fashion destroys their will to fight then that is what you do. That makes it easier for you to win with fewer casualties. When they realized the war was lost, how hard did German soldiers on the Western Front fight? Three squares a day and a place to sleep. They could do the math. In the Battle for Berlin, the Germans sustained as many as 450,000 killed, wounded or missing, civilians included. Why did they fight so hard? What kind of treatment could they expect and did actually receive from the Soviet invaders? The Soviets sustained 20-25,000 dead in the city and 81,000 for the entire operation. Another 280,000 were reported wounded or sick during the operational period. They had to fight hard on both sides (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Berlin). |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 4:41:40 PM EDT
[#45]
If all means are justified towards the end of winning a conflict, do you all consider the beheadings in Iraq evil acts in themselves?
If the means are always justified by the end, then you would have to consider the beheadings morally good acts; or at the very least morally neutral. They are subjectively bad, because the victims were Americans, but if you feel that all means are justified towards the end of winning a conflict, then you are not making sense if you morally condemn the beheadings as objectively evil acts. I too agree that if an end is good, all means are justified in any struggle. |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 5:21:40 PM EDT
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The beheadings haven't furthered their cause. If anything, it has only hardened the U.S. soldier's resolve. Would you let yourself get caught by the Islamo-fascists? The only thing wrong with the beheadings is that it accomplished nothing. I certainly don't consider it a 'War Crime'. As I've posted, that term is a myth. If it isn't, then fire-bombing Japanese cities, incinerating men, women and children would be considered a 'War Crime'. Or throwing NVA POW's out of a helicopter to make his Comrades talk would be considered a 'War Crime'. You do what you need to do to get the job done. |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 5:24:43 PM EDT
[#47]
"Kill all that they send and they won't send any more"
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Posted: 9/23/2005 5:27:21 PM EDT
[#49]
I'd give the invaders a big hug... with some extra 'love' packed on me...
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Posted: 9/23/2005 5:37:06 PM EDT
[#50]
Whatever it takes. Kill 'em all.
The day of the gentlemanly war are long since passed. When Reagan bombed Kaddafi's palace and killed some of his family the only whining was the fucking socialists. Piss on 'em. You might consider this guy's thoughts on the matter: members.cox.net/freestuff/DevilsGuard/ |
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