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Posted: 4/18/2017 3:57:27 AM EDT
So, this is usually a creative bunch. Let's go; Nifty ideas to cause problems in North Korea.

-Best one, launch a satellite or two that will do Internet (is this even possible on a large scale?)... Contract a company to make cheap laptops. Airdrop using B2's.

-Build ships and sites in ROK that broadcast TV, build cheap TV type tablets (remember the 80's when Sony had the portable TV), air drop from B-2's... Can you imagine showing History Channel/Nat Geo shit about the Korean War! Epic.

-On the cheap: Video players pre-loaded with videos, zipped tied to food.

I've been drinking lol.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 4:00:13 AM EDT
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That's all cool but when those poor people have no electricity to run shit... well..
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 4:01:24 AM EDT
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I'd think dropping food would be better.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 4:01:25 AM EDT
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They have electricity.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 4:02:19 AM EDT
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They were only starving during the famine, they are okay now. The orphans not so much. We want them to fight back, resist.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 4:03:32 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/18/2017 4:03:32 AM EDT
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Supposedly, smuggling in flash memory sticks / SD cards from China is already a thing.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 4:19:11 AM EDT
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A member of this group came and talked to my church as we send them funding.  They do some pretty cool deep operative stuff in addition to spreading Christianity.  

http://www.alpharelief.org
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 4:26:06 AM EDT
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Most of the people in NK know now how things are there vs the rest of the world and don't buy into Lil Kim's official lies. If you listen to interviews of people that have escaped, they get DVDs and things with info about the rest of the world. They have to hide under blankets to watch them so they don't get caught.

The big issue as far as having a major uprising, is that each person only has a small handful of people that they can trust, because spies are everywhere, and the older generations tend to support the regime. The younger ones, the ones that grew up with computers and the like, tend to hate the regime. So, many times they fear their parents, uncles and aunts, grandparents etc. The Kim regime is very fragile, and there is a lot more internal strife, according to the refugees than we hear about, especially areas outside the major cities.

There was a really fascinating interview video posted on here about a year ago, one girl and one guy that escaped. I've looked but can't find it. If someone can, please post it up, as this is a great time to hear it again.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 4:32:21 AM EDT
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A member of this group came and talked to my church as we send them funding.  They do some pretty cool deep operative stuff in addition to spreading Christianity.  

http://www.alpharelief.org
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Thank you for the link. I am going to check this out, and maybe donate if I can. Also, I'm forwarding it to another member here that's my best friend. He's just graduated Galloup Guitar School , and is building guitars. But, he's building a good basic guitar, and taking donated ones and if they need some repairs he's repairing them and donating them to missions, to both the missionaries, and getting them in the hands of kids in orphanages and villags that the missionaries go to. He just got finished up a month and a half ago and he's got 6 guitars now that he's sent out. Well, 5 and one is going in another couple of weeks.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 5:09:37 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/18/2017 5:23:19 AM EDT
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You should go there on holiday and try do some sneaky stuff.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 5:28:22 AM EDT
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B2's would get shot the fuck up.

ETA: I'm assuming the only way they could drop anything without it getting pwnd by gravity would be low altitude. Don't think stealth plays well there.

ETA2:Not sure if they can even carry a load that would be worth a shit for this anyway.

Best way to cause trouble is a tac nuke dropped from high altitude into Pyongyang
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 5:30:39 AM EDT
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Exactly. Send full report.

So wish that all these MAGA folks would actually start giving a damn about America instead of just talking about it and directing attention elsewhere. Thats what obama did. 
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 5:35:23 AM EDT
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Many regular Norks watch, or are aware of, the outside world. The "North Koreans try American BBQ" videos on YouTube have some really good associated videos.  Norks are getting Chinese cellphones, South Korean tvs shows on DVD; and using them at risk to their lives.

I gather there is less "support" of Lil Kim from the general population and more fear and inability to fight back, resist, etc.

That doesn't help the situation now, but I would say that a decent percentage of the population no longer loves Dear Leader, Jr.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 5:48:06 AM EDT
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Mine their harbors with mines painted with 'With love from the USS Pueblo & RoK Cheonan'


Drop parachute mines painted 'Operation Paul Bunyan New Old Stock' on choke points


Send SEALs to blow up their ammo dumps.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 7:55:18 AM EDT
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Can they eat these electronics?
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 8:00:54 AM EDT
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REMEMBER:  

The Korean war still isn't over.  

It's only at a cease fire.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 8:05:50 AM EDT
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The Korean war still isn't over.  

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People have a hard time understanding this or the fact that the cease fire is violated nightly by the NK.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 8:06:31 AM EDT
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Create a 4chan group dedicated to screwing with fat boy and NK in general. Watch the country collapse within a month.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 8:12:47 AM EDT
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They were only starving during the famine, they are okay now. The orphans not so much. We want them to fight back, resist.
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They were only starving during the famine, they are okay now. The orphans not so much. We want them to fight back, resist.
Oh sure.  That sounds like OIF rhetoric.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 8:21:19 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/18/2017 8:36:01 AM EDT
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Most of the people in NK know now how things are there vs the rest of the world and don't buy into Lil Kim's official lies. If you listen to interviews of people that have escaped, they get DVDs and things with info about the rest of the world. They have to hide under blankets to watch them so they don't get caught.

The big issue as far as having a major uprising, is that each person only has a small handful of people that they can trust, because spies are everywhere, and the older generations tend to support the regime. The younger ones, the ones that grew up with computers and the like, tend to hate the regime. So, many times they fear their parents, uncles and aunts, grandparents etc. The Kim regime is very fragile, and there is a lot more internal strife, according to the refugees than we hear about, especially areas outside the major cities.

There was a really fascinating interview video posted on here about a year ago, one girl and one guy that escaped. I've looked but can't find it. If someone can, please post it up, as this is a great time to hear it again.
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Same could be said for any and all communist regimes.

Ideas so great they are mandatory
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 8:40:15 AM EDT
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We can do better now.  Drop them rattier-looking surplus 1911s.

Save the rest for the CMP. 
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 8:50:05 AM EDT
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It wouldn't surprise me if there was some stuxnet style sabotage going on with the all the failed missile launches
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 8:55:44 AM EDT
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I'm convinced of it.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 9:01:47 AM EDT
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Create a 4chan group dedicated to screwing with fat boy and NK in general. Watch the country collapse within a month.
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I bet the flags would be replaced within a week.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 9:03:37 AM EDT
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Most entertaining would be start planting propaganda seeds of discontent amongst Kim's closest buddies.  Let Kim go all paranoid thinking all his closest buddies are plotting behind his back.

Grab a lawn chair and a cooler of beer, sit back and watch the ensuing hilarity.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 9:04:48 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/18/2017 9:05:38 AM EDT
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In the countryside distribute small - Halloween Sized - bags of M&M's by the thousands.
Hundreds of thousands if possible.



Think about it.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 9:11:18 AM EDT
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This. Mylar pouches with food they would find familiar and comfortable in their culture.  With a big old American Flag and a smiley face on the wrapper.  Lots and lots of food.   Good nutritious calories and lots of protein.  As long as we don't crush an orphanage with a skid of the stuff falling from the sky I don't see any down side. 

Kim would absolutely come unglued.  It would be the kind of provocation that he couldn't allow to continue.  If we start feeding the people out in the countryside he would be just hours away from an uprising. 
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 9:14:30 AM EDT
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I'm just gonna put a brown paper bag full of dog poop on Kim Jong Un's doorstep, light it on fire, ring the doorbell, and go hide in the bushes to see what happens.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 9:22:57 AM EDT
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If the fact that Kim is 300 pounds and using a cane in his early 30s while the population munches on grass doesn't wake them up, nothing will.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 9:27:41 AM EDT
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Awesome!
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 9:31:45 AM EDT
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Wind, well timed ballons armed with care packages. Already a thing by small groups, but on a larger scale.




Plus some propaganda, food, supplements, batteries etc.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 9:31:56 AM EDT
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I know you are joking but the Norks already did something at that level to the south. The South let balloons with nork currency, us currency, propoganda, porn and moon pies (norks fucking love moon pies, no joke) tied to them and let them float north. In response, the north did the same, but with garbage and used toilet paper.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 9:35:41 AM EDT
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I know you are joking but the Norks already did something at that level to the south. The South let balloons with nork currency, us currency, propoganda, porn and moon pies (norks fucking love moon pies, no joke) tied to them and let them float north. In response, the north did the same, but with garbage and used toilet paper.
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Seems worth it...how large a scale are we talking?
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 9:37:54 AM EDT
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I don't think the RoK gov ever officially gave the go ahead for the balloon drops. I think it was all ngo's, chuch groups, etc. So it was never done in a huge scale.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 9:39:55 AM EDT
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No.  Lil Kim wouldn't even know they were there until they were long gone.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 10:14:00 AM EDT
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Most entertaining would be start planting propaganda seeds of discontent amongst Kim's closest buddies.  Let Kim go all paranoid thinking all his closest buddies are plotting behind his back.

Grab a lawn chair and a cooler of beer, sit back and watch the ensuing hilarity.
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"go all paranoid"?  He's already there.  He regularly kills top officials and family members.  He's had his Defense Minister and his Uncle executed, and his half-brother assassinated (allegedly using VX nerve agent in a commercial airport terminal)

Mike
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 11:08:12 AM EDT
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This. Mylar pouches with food they would find familiar and comfortable in their culture.  With a big old American Flag and a smiley face on the wrapper.  Lots and lots of food.   Good nutritious calories and lots of protein.  As long as we don't crush an orphanage with a skid of the stuff falling from the sky I don't see any down side. 

Kim would absolutely come unglued.  It would be the kind of provocation that he couldn't allow to continue.  If we start feeding the people out in the countryside he would be just hours away from an uprising. 
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Just what this country needs, another 25 million people looking for a handout.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 11:10:55 AM EDT
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With all due respect, really?

Not a single light anywhere?  Not even Pyongyang?

Photoshop dude
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 11:16:02 AM EDT
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Most of the people in NK know now how things are there vs the rest of the world and don't buy into Lil Kim's official lies. If you listen to interviews of people that have escaped, they get DVDs and things with info about the rest of the world. They have to hide under blankets to watch them so they don't get caught.

The big issue as far as having a major uprising, is that each person only has a small handful of people that they can trust, because spies are everywhere, and the older generations tend to support the regime. The younger ones, the ones that grew up with computers and the like, tend to hate the regime. So, many times they fear their parents, uncles and aunts, grandparents etc. The Kim regime is very fragile, and there is a lot more internal strife, according to the refugees than we hear about, especially areas outside the major cities.

There was a really fascinating interview video posted on here about a year ago, one girl and one guy that escaped. I've looked but can't find it. If someone can, please post it up, as this is a great time to hear it again.
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It was literally posted yesterday.  It's a Nightline segment.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 11:26:46 AM EDT
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They have electricity.
Sure they do Kim

Link Posted: 4/18/2017 11:30:22 AM EDT
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Like stated above...food...lots of it..cargo balloons designed to pop and parachute the fod in...and lots of AK's, suppressed pistols or liberators and ammo to kill the spies and traitors.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 11:35:53 AM EDT
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drop bombs on them.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 11:38:52 AM EDT
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So, this is usually a creative bunch. Let's go; Nifty ideas to cause problems in North Korea.

-Best one, launch a satellite or two that will do Internet (is this even possible on a large scale?)... Contract a company to make cheap laptops. Airdrop using B2's.

-Build ships and sites in ROK that broadcast TV, build cheap TV type tablets (remember the 80's when Sony had the portable TV), air drop from B-2's... Can you imagine showing History Channel/Nat Geo shit about the Korean War! Epic.

-On the cheap: Video players pre-loaded with videos, zipped tied to food.

I've been drinking lol.
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For the record, there is a huge black market getting all that stuff into NK already. I think it was covered in a VICE documentary. The smuggle in DVDs, DVD players, mp3 players, solar chargers, cameras, SK and US magazines, etc. They will give the NK smugglers, cameras to take pictures and send back to SK for intel as well. They had some footage of some sightly more affluent NK teen girls watching some US dvd and commenting about how many cars there were in the city and that it must have been just for the movie.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 11:38:57 AM EDT
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Bomb the fuck out of them....




With double bacon cheeseburgers, chicken fried steak, ham & eggs, all kinda shit like that.  Add a bunch of notes "From your friends in the United States".

How in the fuck are you going to convince a starving people to fight the folks sending them bacon cheeseburgers?

ETA:  Looks like I've been beat to the punch.  Great minds and all.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 11:42:24 AM EDT
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"Oh, who ordered runch"
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 11:48:32 AM EDT
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Solar radios, pistols, MREs.

Flash drives with gay porn featuring a Kim lookalike.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 11:53:34 AM EDT
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Air drop massive amounts of food on the rural areas.
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