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Posted: 12/17/2016 1:14:04 PM EDT
I have 2 pomerians and live in the city. My neighbor texted me last night and said there had been an owl eyeing up his Shepherd for the last week. We do also have Hawks here and there but not often.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to prevent my puppies from becoming a quick dinner when they are outside? It's been down to -8 and snowy here so going out with them when I get a 30 second little dog bladder bark notification is not always possible.
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my Golden (Caleb) has an owl as his buddy. The owl noticed the squirrels teasing him by jumping off the bird feeder and getting him to chase them then do a 180 making Caleb wipe out and they would all laugh at him. the escalated the game to jumping on his back which the owl and my wife did not like. the next time they did that his owl swooped in like a f 22 raptor and hauled off the offender. now the owl sits on the tree by the back door and waits for him. some nights he sits on the grill outside the door looking in for his four legged buddy.


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It is nature's way.
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I have a Whippet that will protect my Chihuahua from hawks. It's pretty neat to watch. I have an easily deplorable anti hawk flak device but details are classified.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:53:58 PM EDT
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German Shepherd?
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Something like this but less gay looking.
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my Golden (Caleb) has an owl as his buddy. The owl noticed the squirrels teasing him by jumping off the bird feeder and getting him to chase them then do a 180 making Caleb wipe out and they would all laugh at him. the escalated the game to jumping on his back which the owl and my wife did not like. the next time they did that his owl swooped in like a f 22 raptor and hauled off the offender. now the owl sits on the tree by the back door and waits for him. some nights he sits on the grill outside the door looking in for his four legged buddy.


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That brings hunting over a dog to a whole new level!
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Something like this but less gay looking.
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Look, you're not getting any less gay than having a rat-dog in the first place.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:12:20 PM EDT
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Get bigger dogs. My littlest is 50 lbs
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:14:33 PM EDT
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We go outside with our toy poodle. We have hawks that have definitely eyed her as a meal. Stand over her, or close by.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:14:45 PM EDT
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That is kind of cool
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:14:54 PM EDT
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Something like this but less gay looking.
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Something like this but less gay looking.


Browsing the CoyoteVest website, most of the colors are pretty fabulous, but there is a "Texas Tan" option.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:18:03 PM EDT
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Two schools of thought here...leave nature alone, or protect your family with a little air gun action.

 I have an outdoor cat and there are a few different hawks living in my sub along with coyote and fox. Rabbit pop. Is all but extinct.  Squirrels are still around but in lower numbers. I've come to terms with the fact that kitty might not come home one day.  Nature is a bitch
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:19:54 PM EDT
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When Mr. Fabulous(now deceased miniDachshund) was a puppy hawks used to come low to size him up but I feel like my presence deterred any attacks. They were definitely keeping tabs on us, though.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:21:56 PM EDT
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How much weight can one of these birds of prey carry?
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Doesn't matter. Those talons can fubar your little dude.
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We have a Golden Eagle around here that has eyed up my 92-lbs German Wirehair before. I keep an eye out for that big bastard, but the Bald Eagles usually drive him off for a few days at a time.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:25:07 PM EDT
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Setting: Arizona Desert, rural "neighborhood"

Time: Noonish

Victim: White Min. Poodle owned by an older lady

Predator: Harrier's Hawk

Place of consumption: Top of a telephone pole.

Details: Neighbor lady had her sweet little "thang" out doing its business in the backyard. Harrier Hawk takes note and perches above the house. At just the right time the min-poodle made a move. The hawk had to get it on. He wen't in for the "swoop da doop". Snatches the poodle before the lady's eyes, whisking him away to the top of a telephone/power line pole in her backyard. From there he SLOWLY goes to work on the poodle. From the time it was screaming and the lady i would say he started at the ass. The lady was hysterical and helpless. She was trying to throw rocks, sticks, etc but to no avail. When the screams of the poodle stopped, she somehow decided NOW was the time to get a gun. She went inside, retrieved some sort of pistol (cannot remember I was young) and tried to shoot the hawk. She missed over and over. Eventually when the hawk was done he dropped the, now red ,poodle back off where he found it. Was just fur, bones, and pieces of ligaments and some organ.



Will always remember that one.<img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_smartass.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Setting: Arizona Desert, rural "neighborhood"

Time: Noonish

Victim: White Min. Poodle owned by an older lady

Predator: Harrier's Hawk

Place of consumption: Top of a telephone pole.

Details: Neighbor lady had her sweet little "thang" out doing its business in the backyard. Harrier Hawk takes note and perches above the house. At just the right time the min-poodle made a move. The hawk had to get it on. He wen't in for the "swoop da doop". Snatches the poodle before the lady's eyes whisking him away to the top of a telephone/power line pole in her backyard. From there he SLOWLY goes to work on the poodle. From the time it was screaming and the lady i would say he started at the ass. The lady was hysterical and helpless. She was trying to throw rocks, sticks, etc but to no avail. When the screams of the poodle stopped, she somehow decided NOW was the time to get a gun. She went inside, retrieved some sort of pistol (cannot remember I was young) and tried to shoot the hawk. She missed over and over. Eventually when the hawk was done he dropped the, now red ,poodle back off where he found it. was just fur, bones, and pieces of ligaments and some organ.



Will always remember that one.<img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_smartass.gif border=0 align=middle>
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wow thats hilarious. Thanks
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:27:20 PM EDT
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my Golden (Caleb) has an owl as his buddy. The owl noticed the squirrels teasing him by jumping off the bird feeder and getting him to chase them then do a 180 making Caleb wipe out and they would all laugh at him. the escalated the game to jumping on his back which the owl and my wife did not like. the next time they did that his owl swooped in like a f 22 raptor and hauled off the offender. now the owl sits on the tree by the back door and waits for him. some nights he sits on the grill outside the door looking in for his four legged buddy.
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Very cool story.
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Look, you're not getting any less gay than having a rat-dog in the first place.
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A toy Chihuahua will bring more poon to you than you can handle. The wife won't let me take ours to Petsmart anymore by myself.  We carried her into Walmart once and I was mobbed by 6 college girls fawning over the dog. Women love small dogs and they are the best ice breaker to initiate a conversation. We used to take her to the flea market and it's funny for my wife to be walking her and big biker dudes with tats on both arms start baby talking the dog. Our dog is so small at 3 whole pounds that she uses a puppy training pad to do her business. It doesn't smell and is easy to clean up.
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wow thats hilarious. Thanks <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_thinking.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Did I seem to have a funny tone? Apologies dear. I had zero control of that situation, and sometimes nature things just happen. I chose to learn from it rather than sulk and let it ruin my day. Life lessons. Sucked, but such is life. Now if SHE was the one with a humor to her tone...yeah that would be a tad...off.<img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Something like this but less gay looking.
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Something like this but less gay looking.

In that case you're gonna need a different dog 
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Did I seem to have a funny tone? Apologies dear. I had zero control of that situation, and sometimes nature things just happen. I chose to learn from it rather than sulk and let it ruin my day. Life lessons. Sucked, but such is life. Now if SHE was the one with a humor to her tone...yeah that would be a tad...off.<img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Smileys told your story, nice try.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:30:48 PM EDT
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I have 2 pomerians and live in the city. My neighbor texted me last night and said there had been an owl eyeing up his Shepherd for the last week. We do also have Hawks here and there but not often.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to prevent my puppies from becoming a quick dinner when they are outside? It's been down to -8 and snowy here so going out with them when I get a 30 second little dog bladder bark notification is not always possible.
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First of all; your dogs shouldn't be outside unsupervised unless they are big dogs in a fenced enclosure.
Secondly; what man in his right mind (or woman) gets rat-dogs?  LOL  
Finally; crate your dogs when you're not home.  If they have to pee--use a piss pad on the far side of their crate and use those "pee pads"---
problem solved.
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Smileys told your story, nice try.
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Depends on the bird. In my limited googling, a redtail hawk can carry about half it's body weight, so generally no more than about 2lbs. A great horned owl can carry almost triple it's body weight, so up to about 9lbs.
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Depends on the bird. In my limited googling, a redtail hawk can carry about half it's body weight, so generally no more than about 2lbs. A great horned owl can carry almost triple it's body weight, so up to about 9lbs.
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Carry, yes. Hack your little dog up? Also yes.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:34:28 PM EDT
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You could let them out into a covered dog run/ outdoor kennel, they're not that expensive either. Set it up by the door and put a little barrier on the sides so your dogs have to go in, then shut the gate and no worries. 
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Doesn't matter. Those talons can fubar your little dude.
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Doesn't matter. Those talons can fubar your little dude.

And their beaks are for ripping spinal columns in half.
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I've had "Normal" sized dogs. I travel with them and they fit in carry on.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:48:21 PM EDT
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Doesn't matter. Those talons can fubar your little dude.
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Doesn't matter. Those talons can fubar your little dude.


Yup
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:49:47 PM EDT
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conabear trap on the tallest posts.
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Very cool story.
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my Golden (Caleb) has an owl as his buddy. The owl noticed the squirrels teasing him by jumping off the bird feeder and getting him to chase them then do a 180 making Caleb wipe out and they would all laugh at him. the escalated the game to jumping on his back which the owl and my wife did not like. the next time they did that his owl swooped in like a f 22 raptor and hauled off the offender. now the owl sits on the tree by the back door and waits for him. some nights he sits on the grill outside the door looking in for his four legged buddy.


Very cool story.


Right, way cool!
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:51:46 PM EDT
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Doesn't matter. Those talons can fubar your little dude.


Not to mention they can still try to lift. I've got a JRT that was oblivious to the hawk stalking her. While I doubt the hawk could handle my dog in the long run, lifting the dog 20-30ft off the ground and dropping it would be bad news for any dog.
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First of all; your dogs shouldn't be outside unsupervised unless they are big dogs in a fenced enclosure.
Secondly; what man in his right mind (or woman) gets rat-dogs?  LOL  <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Finally; crate your dogs when you're not home.  If they have to pee--use a piss pad on the far side of their crate and use those "pee pads"---
problem solved.
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I have 2 pomerians and live in the city. My neighbor texted me last night and said there had been an owl eyeing up his Shepherd for the last week. We do also have Hawks here and there but not often.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to prevent my puppies from becoming a quick dinner when they are outside? It's been down to -8 and snowy here so going out with them when I get a 30 second little dog bladder bark notification is not always possible.



First of all; your dogs shouldn't be outside unsupervised unless they are big dogs in a fenced enclosure.
Secondly; what man in his right mind (or woman) gets rat-dogs?  LOL  <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Finally; crate your dogs when you're not home.  If they have to pee--use a piss pad on the far side of their crate and use those "pee pads"---
problem solved.


If only we could all be as cool as you...
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Carry, yes. Hack your little dog up? Also yes.
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Depends on the bird. In my limited googling, a redtail hawk can carry about half it's body weight, so generally no more than about 2lbs. A great horned owl can carry almost triple it's body weight, so up to about 9lbs.


Carry, yes. Hack your little dog up? Also yes.


Check on both. One is 6.5 lbs the other is just under 8.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 2:58:20 PM EDT
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you can... 1)  Get a big dog like a real man.    or 2) Go outside and supervise your small pups and protect them from flying predators with a shotgun + birdshot like a real man.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:01:58 PM EDT
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Cleaning up the shed one night and hear something moving around on the roof. I take a flashlight and peek on the roof to see a big ass great-horned owl with a big ass possum in his claws still alive and trying to get away. The owl made a few adjustment with his feet and flew off into the night to eat it's dinner out of the disturbance of my flashlight. Big birds of prey are no joke.

I love how owls make no noise when they clap their wings. It's one of natures coolest adaptations.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:03:06 PM EDT
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I find this kind of funny OP looking for a way to keep large birds from killing his dog.
My wife is out right now looking at a dog to help keep the hawks away from her silky chickens.

Yesterday the wife went at it with a hawk that garbed one of her silky's 25 feet from her, the wife and the chicken won that round.
My advice to the OP is get a wife that will go ape shit on anything messing with the pets.

I am just waiting now to see what kind of unwanted mangy pound puppy she shows up with.
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Read a news story about an owl carrying a bichon so maybe 10-15 pounds.
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We go outside with our toy poodle. We have hawks that have definitely eyed her as a meal. Stand over her, or close by.

This is what I was thinking.  Being with the dog is often the best protection available.
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I'm not sure but I do remember seeing a viral video of a bird of prey trying to steal a baby and actually lifted it up off the ground.  (In fact the video I just found of it wasn't even the one I was thinking of... eep)
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:23:12 PM EDT
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Friend of a friend claims that he caught his wife's Jack Russell Terrier barn dogs actively baiting and going after predator birds. One dog would lay out in the paddock like it was asleep in the sun, or injured, and then the rest would wait in the shadows. Bang, zoom, in comes the hawk, and then the bird would be mobbed by four Jack Russells. Apparently, it's kinda hard to fly off with one when there are two more with death-grips on your wings, and another pair taking random chunks out of you.

A lot of the question involves asking "What sort of small dog are we talking about, here...?". Furry little piranhas like the Jack Russell? I'm going to say that if there's one, the bird may come out on top. Two or more...? Who the hell knows--I've got reliable evidence of two Jack Russells taking down and doing enough damage to a Pitt-Rottweiler mix that the bigger dog had to be put down. Not a scratch on the Jack Russells, either...
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:28:37 PM EDT
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I have a 9.5 pound terrier.  My yard is next to a nature reserve.  We have squirrels, and wild rabbits in our back yard all the time.  There are bald eagles, red tailed, and Cooper's hawks, as well as barred owls around my place all the time.  Little dog has a small fenced in dog run, but otherwise lives inside...but he is an older dog (13-15), and prefers indoors anyhow.

We often find bird strike evidence in the yard.  They look like someone stuck an M-80 up a pigeons ass and blew it up.  Just a pile of feathers about 24" in diameter is all that is left.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:51:32 PM EDT
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Used to have Redtails and Goshawks eyeing up my 6lb mini weiner dog.  But never had a problem since she didn't go out without her buddy, an 80 lb standard Poodle.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 3:58:41 PM EDT
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When you take your little dog out walk it on a leash, and keep a death grip on the leash. That keeps you close to the dog and if a raptor does try to snatch it the bird can't go but so far.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 4:00:35 PM EDT
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Anyone make this suggestion yet?





Put em in your purse?  


J/K man....
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A toy Chihuahua will bring more poon to you than you can handle. The wife won't let me take ours to Petsmart anymore by myself.  We carried her into Walmart once and I was mobbed by 6 college girls fawning over the dog. Women love small dogs and they are the best ice breaker to initiate a conversation. We used to take her to the flea market and it's funny for my wife to be walking her and big biker dudes with tats on both arms start baby talking the dog. Our dog is so small at 3 whole pounds that she uses a puppy training pad to do her business. It doesn't smell and is easy to clean up.
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A toy Chihuahua will bring more poon to you than you can handle. The wife won't let me take ours to Petsmart anymore by myself.  We carried her into Walmart once and I was mobbed by 6 college girls fawning over the dog. Women love small dogs and they are the best ice breaker to initiate a conversation. We used to take her to the flea market and it's funny for my wife to be walking her and big biker dudes with tats on both arms start baby talking the dog. Our dog is so small at 3 whole pounds that she uses a puppy training pad to do her business. It doesn't smell and is easy to clean up.


We have two of them.
5 pound all black purebred Chihuahua and a 16lb Chi mix (we think chihuahua and basenji). Neither of them are the shaky, nervous, sketchy little shits that typify their breed, they are pretty forward and personable. They are chick magnets for sure.
I was never a small dog person but these little turds have grown on me.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 4:13:16 PM EDT
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Lol we have a Pom and I kid my wife all the time about leaving her in the yard alone too long as the hawk starts circling.
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