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Posted: 5/1/2015 2:40:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/1/2015 2:40:39 PM EDT
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No, wrong demographic
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Posted: 5/1/2015 2:40:48 PM EDT
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Should damaged businesses and insurance companies go after her to recovery for damages? They should but that would be racist. 
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Posted: 5/1/2015 2:41:39 PM EDT
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The mayor, IMO, owns all of it.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 2:44:04 PM EDT
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They absolutely should. The electorate in some areas is too stupid to elect competent leadership, and incompetent leadership often has no consequences for their stupidity other than getting kicked out of office. Add more consequences to insanely stupid decisions and we may see better results.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 2:45:40 PM EDT
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They absolutely should. The electorate in some areas is too stupid to elect competent leadership, and incompetent leadership often has no consequences for their stupidity other than getting kicked out of office. Add more consequences to insanely stupid decisions and we may see better results. That happens on a national level as well. |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 2:50:24 PM EDT
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That happens on a national level as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They absolutely should. The electorate in some areas is too stupid to elect competent leadership, and incompetent leadership often has no consequences for their stupidity other than getting kicked out of office. Add more consequences to insanely stupid decisions and we may see better results. That happens on a national level as well. Yes, it does. |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 2:52:00 PM EDT
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Sovereign Immunity. City can't be sued.
There's a division of Baltimore City government whose entire function is to tell people, "We're not paying. Fuck off". Hell, there was a Korean grocery store (northwest corner of 22nd and Greenmount, for the local guys), and a police car, during a chase, overcooked the turn and went through the side wall. Not only would the city not pay anything, they sent a building inspector out 2 days later to tell them that the board-up was not a proper repair, and they'd be fined $500 a day until it was fixed. 
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Posted: 5/1/2015 3:22:16 PM EDT
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Eminent domain. City can't be sued. There's a division of Baltimore City government whose entire function is to tell people, "We're not paying. Fuck off". Hell, there was a Korean grocery store (northwest corner of 22nd and Greenmount, for the local guys), and a police car, during a chase, overcooked the turn and went through the side wall. Not only would the city not pay anything, they sent a building inspector out 2 days later to tell them that the board-up was not a proper repair, and they'd be fined $500 a day until it was fixed.
I think that might be sovereign immunity.... |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 3:28:39 PM EDT
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I think that might be sovereign immunity.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Eminent domain. City can't be sued. There's a division of Baltimore City government whose entire function is to tell people, "We're not paying. Fuck off". Hell, there was a Korean grocery store (northwest corner of 22nd and Greenmount, for the local guys), and a police car, during a chase, overcooked the turn and went through the side wall. Not only would the city not pay anything, they sent a building inspector out 2 days later to tell them that the board-up was not a proper repair, and they'd be fined $500 a day until it was fixed.
I think that might be sovereign immunity.... You are correct. It's been a long week. I knew that didn't sound right. |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 3:30:03 PM EDT
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They can try but the supreme court has already ruled that police have no obligation to protect citizens life or property.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 3:34:04 PM EDT
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The mayor, IMO, owns all of it. Yep |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 3:36:55 PM EDT
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Maybe the unions should protest against her.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 3:39:29 PM EDT
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FPNI
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Posted: 5/1/2015 3:41:44 PM EDT
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No, it is the Shuck and Jive Democrats pull. First they go along with the protestors, and then they slide in as the White Knight to pick up the pieces.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 3:42:20 PM EDT
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No, it is the Shuck and Jive Democrats pull. First they go along with the protestors, and then they slide in as the White Knight to pick up the pieces.
I posted twice because this is such an important point. 
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Posted: 5/1/2015 3:44:32 PM EDT
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Should damaged businesses and insurance companies go after her to recovery for damages? Yes! 
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Posted: 5/1/2015 3:45:16 PM EDT
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I think the GD came to a consensus the other day when this was asked that she should be brought up on charges, convicted, thrown in jail, and than have all her stuff confiscated.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 3:51:10 PM EDT
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I would file a lawsuit against the city.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 4:04:33 PM EDT
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In this case, I think you could make a decent argument that the city made the situation much worse than it should have been. Look what happened once the police actually were allowed to get to work.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 4:10:13 PM EDT
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They can try but the supreme court has already ruled that police have no obligation to protect citizens life or property. Right, but what is the legal point where individual protection ends and "community" protection starts? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 4:12:34 PM EDT
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Right, but what is the legal point where individual protection ends and "community" protection starts? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They can try but the supreme court has already ruled that police have no obligation to protect citizens life or property. Right, but what is the legal point where individual protection ends and "community" protection starts? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This is what I was thinking. The police owe a duty to the general community. They failed in performing that duty. Why? Because they were told to stand down. It's a basic negligence issue. Was there a duty? Yes. Was the breach of that duty the proximate cause of injury? Yes. Was the plaintiff indeed injured? Yes. If I was the insurer, I wouldn't eat those loses. Of course, there's always the "nuisance" value of a lawsuit and it is cheaper to settle out of court than to litigate a nuisance lawsuit. Imagine if each store owner brought a suit for damages? That's a lot of out of court settlements. |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 4:24:16 PM EDT
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They can try but the supreme court has already ruled that police have no obligation to protect citizens life or property. The have no obligation to protect individuals. They are duty bound to protect the public at large. Deliberate inaction is dereliction. |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 4:28:01 PM EDT
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I doubt that they will have to go after the city. The Obama administration will pour taxpayer money into Baltimore. Agencies, such as FEMA, will hand out money to everyone who wants it. There will be little, if any, accountability.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 5:51:49 PM EDT
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Almost all business insurance doesn't cover riot, insurrection or invasion. Its a vary expensive umbrella policy that most owners do not get. During the LA riots there was law suits that argued that theft of merchandise should be covered but it was not based on the number of people involved in the theft.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 5:57:41 PM EDT
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The have no obligation to protect individuals. They are duty bound to protect the public at large. Deliberate inaction is dereliction. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They can try but the supreme court has already ruled that police have no obligation to protect citizens life or property. The have no obligation to protect individuals. They are duty bound to protect the public at large. Deliberate inaction is dereliction. Class action suit maybe? |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 6:58:07 PM EDT
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Nope. The police has no constitutional duty to protect them or their shit, per the SCOTUS. They should have defended it themselves. Since they didn't, make a claim with the insurance company and gtfo of there, if they pay. It's obvious Baltimore doesn't want their business being there...
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Posted: 5/1/2015 7:00:00 PM EDT
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She should be arrested for misconduct in office.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 7:01:07 PM EDT
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Elections have consequences.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 7:05:46 PM EDT
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Nope. The police has no constitutional duty to protect them or their shit, per the SCOTUS. Indeed... but does the city government as a whole have a duty to not say they won't protect the city? It's an interesting question... A Baltimore resident suit for injunctive relief from Maryland's shitty gun laws might be in order, since they have no police protection. |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 7:08:44 PM EDT
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POPO should have stood down before prosecutor's announcement, SCOTUS has ruled Popo do not protect individuals. Mayor and Pros are individuals.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 7:14:04 PM EDT
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I would file a lawsuit against the city. It would be better to convince the looters and rioters that the target if their wrath should be the mayor's office. I'd pay to see that! |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 7:14:13 PM EDT
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Baltimore POPO should have a one week sickout.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 7:15:08 PM EDT
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Baltimore POPO should have a one week sickout. They should have a permanent sick out. Give them what they want. |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 7:16:19 PM EDT
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They can try but the supreme court has already ruled that police have no obligation to protect citizens life or property. In that case the police and National Guard need to stay home. Let the city burn to the ground. When that plays on TV, scroll across the top: "This is what liberal (Democrat) policies end in" Then show clips of the mayor, police chief, Obama, Sharpton, H Clinton, etc |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 7:17:57 PM EDT
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Right, but what is the legal point where individual protection ends and "community" protection starts? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They can try but the supreme court has already ruled that police have no obligation to protect citizens life or property. Right, but what is the legal point where individual protection ends and "community" protection starts? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I reject the idea of "community protection." A community is a collection of individuals and they get no protection. |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 7:20:06 PM EDT
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Why would the insurance companies care?
THEY DONT COVER RIOTS. Done. No worries. The people whose shit gets burned down just lose their asses. Then those businesses go bankrupt and close. And then the buildings sit in ruins. Then some company buys up the entire block, levels it, and puts up some nice shit that then drives the prices in the neighborhood up, and the current residents can no longer afford to live there, and then they move out. Rinse, repeat. |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 7:26:44 PM EDT
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Why would the insurance companies care? THEY DONT COVER RIOTS. Done. No worries. The people whose shit gets burned down just lose their asses. Then those businesses go bankrupt and close. And then the buildings sit in ruins. Then some company buys up the entire block, levels it, and puts up some nice shit that then drives the prices in the neighborhood up, and the current residents can no longer afford to live there, and then they move out. Rinse, repeat. Interesting life-cycle story. The reality is that you could build a Trump resort in place of the CVS and no normal person would go there. |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 7:30:14 PM EDT
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After the indictments, she won't have to tell them to stand down the next time.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 7:33:17 PM EDT
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They can try but the supreme court has already ruled that police have no obligation to protect citizens life or property. Exactly.... They could set fires while the police sit and watch while drinking coffee... police have no obligation to intervene. Unfortunately, this is the sort of policing we're going to end up with.... They'll just stop intervening and simply respond to clean up the mess. |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 7:33:54 PM EDT
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The businesses should just suck it up and try to start over someplace that did not have a TV show taking place there with a name like "Homicide".
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