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Posted: 12/24/2012 4:18:42 PM EDT
So the guys at work have brought up an argument as to who would win in an all out deathmatch between a Silverback gorilla and Bengal tiger. I say gorilla but everyone else says tiger. What's your opinion? I'd like some good points to throw at them when we come back from Christmas so I can win this argument.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:19:37 PM EDT
where is the video
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:19:52 PM EDT
the tiger would fuck the gorilla up but the gorilla could probably shatter the tigers spine and rip it apart before the tiger would mortally wound the gorilla
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:20:38 PM EDT
Wolverine!
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:21:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By popsickles:
where is the video


Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:23:23 PM EDT
Historically, the big cats of the savanna have been the most feared predators of the monkey / ape / humanoid category of creatures. Sleek and powerful, quiet, sneaky, ruthless and lethal.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:23:35 PM EDT
Tiger would shred the gorillas guts before he could grab his balls. Tiger-1, gorilla-0.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:25:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/24/2012 4:25:16 PM EDT by internettoughguy]
I keep picturing a tiger trying to hit the gorilla with his paw, the gorilla grabbing the tiger by the leg and swinging the tiger into a giant tree trunk causing major internal damage
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:25:44 PM EDT
The tiger would win because I would shoot the gorilla with my Ruger.44 carbine.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:27:02 PM EDT
I think it all really depends on whether the tiger gets the drop on the gorilla, tigers are masters of stealth attacks. If the gorilla sees the tiger coming I think it may be another matter all together.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:27:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By popsickles:
where is the video




Tag for the video
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:27:17 PM EDT
The top weight of a gorilla is 450 lbs. the top weight if a Bengal tiger is about
500-550 lbs. if they were both at top weight and males, barring a surprise attack,
both would die. The tigers claws would rip the flesh of the gorilla, and the blows
of the gorilla would shatter the tigers bones. Both have large canines, so both
bites would be about equal. I give it to the tiger to win, but it would eventually
die a short time after the altercation.
Just a side note: leopards have been known to kill gorillas.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:27:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By oresti:
The tiger would win because I would shoot the gorilla with my Ruger.44 carbine.


but the tiger would make a much better rug why not shoot it?
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:31:52 PM EDT
Friend and I were talking about the same kind of stuff last night.

How about a male grizzly bear vs. male lion?
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:33:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/24/2012 6:06:22 PM EDT by The_Beer_Slayer]
coc
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:33:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By internettoughguy:
Originally Posted By oresti:
The tiger would win because I would shoot the gorilla with my Ruger.44 carbine.


but the tiger would make a much better rug why not shoot it?


I like cats.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:34:09 PM EDT
Grizzly will destroy a male lion
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:34:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/24/2012 4:35:58 PM EDT by Stoner_63]
Originally Posted By Oiparhon:
Historically, the big cats of the savanna have been the most feared predators of the monkey / ape / humanoid category of creatures. Sleek and powerful, quiet, sneaky, ruthless and lethal.


Pretty much what I was going to post. If the primate was able to get the upper hand ie sneak up on the tiger; then yes it would have a chance, otherwise I think the primate would be in deeeep trouble
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:36:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:37:58 PM EDT
I am thinking Bengal, but only most of the time, say 60%.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:39:31 PM EDT
Apex predator versus herbivorous forager?

Leopards kill Silverbacks. Tiger > Leopard.

Now, if Ditka coached the silverback? All bets are off.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:39:50 PM EDT
As strong as a gorilla is, I think the cat would shred it.

How many times have you surrendered while playing with a kitten that has razor sharp claws?
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:40:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Accidental:
Originally Posted By popsickles:
where is the video




I guess this sweet bear vs gorilla fight will have to do until we get video. Epic ending.

Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:42:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/24/2012 6:07:12 PM EDT by The_Beer_Slayer]
coc
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:44:07 PM EDT
cat is an alpha predator. gorilla is something that happened to survive.

cat wins. if marginally.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:48:23 PM EDT
How long before this shows up as a movie on the SyFy channel?
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:49:52 PM EDT
Gorilla
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:53:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Lucky_Day:
Originally Posted By Accidental:
Originally Posted By popsickles:
where is the video




I guess this sweet bear vs gorilla fight will have to do until we get video. Epic ending.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVAP5qWnBek


Sasquatch lives!
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:54:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By popsickles:
where is the video


I had big hopes for a video.....
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:55:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Apex predator versus herbivorous forager?

Leopards kill Silverbacks. Tiger > Leopard.

Now, if Ditka coached the silverback? All bets are off.





See, now isn't humor better than arrogance and condescension ?

Merry Christmas !


Link Posted: 12/24/2012 4:59:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/24/2012 6:07:26 PM EDT by The_Beer_Slayer]
coc
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:00:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/24/2012 5:02:15 PM EDT by akethan]
How about Guy On A Buffalo -vs- a bear?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ4T9CQA0UM




I still can't embed.



How about a cougar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5Lmkm5EF5E
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:04:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/24/2012 6:07:36 PM EDT by The_Beer_Slayer]
coc
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:04:36 PM EDT
Gorilla bite force is roughly 1300psi, Tigers are somewhere around 1000psi. Either is plenty to snap any number of bones. In a head on match both being completely aware, I'd still say the cat though. They are amazingly fast. Even compared to Gorilla's.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:05:37 PM EDT
Whoever brings this:
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:07:43 PM EDT
The tiger would win quickly. It is a killing machine. No fucking leaves,fruits or nuts for a tiger, just blood and guts.

Now a grizzly vs a gorilla, there you have some controversy.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:09:19 PM EDT
Honey badger would fuck both of their shit up. He just don't give a shit.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:10:25 PM EDT
Arm-wrestling match? Gorilla.

Straight up brawl? Tiger.

Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:16:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Phelptwan:
Gorilla bite force is roughly 1300psi, Tigers are somewhere around 1000psi. Either is plenty to snap any number of bones. In a head on match both being completely aware, I'd still say the cat though. They are amazingly fast. Even compared to Gorilla's.


The force of the bite is only part of the issue. A mouth designed to rip meat from living animals is a far cry from one designed to eat foraged vegetables.





Then there's this difference:




Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:17:53 PM EDT

Cage match? Who knows. In nature the gorilla would never know what happened , the tiger would stalk him and pounce. The end.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:20:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By xylo:
The tiger would win quickly. It is a killing machine. No fucking leaves,fruits or nuts for a tiger, just blood and guts.

Now a grizzly vs a gorilla, there you have some controversy.

No way, a grizzly would easily kill the gorilla, and probably the tiger too, they have claws that are worse than a cat.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:25:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By Phelptwan:
Gorilla bite force is roughly 1300psi, Tigers are somewhere around 1000psi. Either is plenty to snap any number of bones. In a head on match both being completely aware, I'd still say the cat though. They are amazingly fast. Even compared to Gorilla's.


The force of the bite is only part of the issue. A mouth designed to rip meat from living animals is a far cry from one designed to eat foraged vegetables.

http://www.colourbox.com/preview/1811084-621274-tiger-jaws.jpg

http://mynews.mumbleabout.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/gorilla.gif

Then there's this difference:

http://www.handresearch.com/diagnostics/gorilla-hand-lines.jpg

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/u/H6yMi6fUB_1JR964xxG8RxsYArlNNn1lR5PWutchIbraio-KjujsFgR08yF9OBpHhbM5MQtECX0hVw/
then these


Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:25:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By wwace:

Originally Posted By xylo:
The tiger would win quickly. It is a killing machine. No fucking leaves,fruits or nuts for a tiger, just blood and guts.

Now a grizzly vs a gorilla, there you have some controversy.

No way, a grizzly would easily kill the gorilla, and probably the tiger too, they have claws that are worse than a cat.


This is true historically. The Romans would pit 4 lions against a bear as "part of the show" in the gladiator days and the bear always won.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:29:05 PM EDT
Question is, which one would you rather have to fight with a knife?
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:30:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/24/2012 5:46:41 PM EDT by Bohr_Adam]
Originally Posted By Bale2011:
Originally Posted By wwace:

Originally Posted By xylo:
The tiger would win quickly. It is a killing machine. No fucking leaves,fruits or nuts for a tiger, just blood and guts.

Now a grizzly vs a gorilla, there you have some controversy.

No way, a grizzly would easily kill the gorilla, and probably the tiger too, they have claws that are worse than a cat.


This is true historically. The Romans would pit 4 lions against a bear as "part of the show" in the gladiator days and the bear always won.


A tiger would probably destroy a lion, though. Lions are over-rated.

Bears are impressive killing machines either way. My money would be on a grizzly against a tiger.


Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:32:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By Phelptwan:
Gorilla bite force is roughly 1300psi, Tigers are somewhere around 1000psi. Either is plenty to snap any number of bones. In a head on match both being completely aware, I'd still say the cat though. They are amazingly fast. Even compared to Gorilla's.


The force of the bite is only part of the issue. A mouth designed to rip meat from living animals is a far cry from one designed to eat foraged vegetables.

http://www.colourbox.com/preview/1811084-621274-tiger-jaws.jpg

http://mynews.mumbleabout.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/gorilla.gif

Then there's this difference:

http://www.handresearch.com/diagnostics/gorilla-hand-lines.jpg

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/u/H6yMi6fUB_1JR964xxG8RxsYArlNNn1lR5PWutchIbraio-KjujsFgR08yF9OBpHhbM5MQtECX0hVw/


That gorilla looks like he smells like shit! Bad breath and generally poor personal hygiene! I'll bet his breath could knock a buzzard off a shit wagon.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:32:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Super_Duty_John:
Question is, which one would you rather have to fight with a knife pointy stick?


Like our ancestors did.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:35:30 PM EDT
I'd say tiger is too quick for hairy gorilla.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:36:08 PM EDT
The tiger attacks and kills all different sizes and shapes of animals throughout its adult life. Some of these animals are much larger than a gorilla. Adult gorillas occasionally fight other adult gorillas. They do not hone their skills of attack against other types of animals.

The tiger wins easily.
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:37:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/24/2012 6:08:20 PM EDT by The_Beer_Slayer]
coc
Link Posted: 12/24/2012 5:40:32 PM EDT
If the Bengal could work with a stick and move it could bleed out the gorilla, but if the gorilla gets hold of the Bengal he would shatter the cat to pieces.
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