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Posted: 4/17/2017 12:22:43 AM EDT
Is it just chasing a buck selling collectibles or is there something darker going on?

Link about the sale
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:24:39 AM EDT
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All i know is it's definitely Trumps fault.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:25:14 AM EDT
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It's an interesting piece of history.  Just look at it as a war trophy.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:25:47 AM EDT
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I have never understood the fascination with nazi memorabilia.  Unless your family member took it as a trophy after battle why would you want that stuff?  

US military memorabilia I do find interesting.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:26:12 AM EDT
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I kinda want.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:27:47 AM EDT
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WWII was a very important part of world history. Like it or not, the Nazis and everyone involved with them were part of it.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:28:10 AM EDT
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I think it should all be destroyed along with all other artifacts associated with bad things.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:28:34 AM EDT
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It's a piece of history, nothing more. Same as anything taken from the Japanese.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:30:02 AM EDT
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Sarcasm?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:30:11 AM EDT
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Yawn...I'll take "Freedom" for $1,000, Alex. Do I want Nazi memorabilia? No. Do I care that someone else does? Also, no.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:31:26 AM EDT
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/09/world/iraq-isis-heritage/index.html

Historic artifacts scare some folks.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:33:48 AM EDT
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Elliot Rodger's BMW went up for auction a while back... Wonder if it was fixed.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:33:56 AM EDT
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I have never understood the fascination with nazi memorabilia.  Unless your family member took it as a trophy after battle why would you want that stuff?  

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The Nazi made a medal or tinnie for every little thing and a whole bunch of different variations of the same medal.
If you look at let's say medal A that was used from 1939 to 1945 you can tell that the quality of the material used went down as the war went on.
The 1939 version is heavy and they used a nice metal and then look at the 1945 one made of zinc or some pot metal and looks cheap, doesn't mean that the meaning of the medal is any different

Some people collect things like that for the historic value and not the meaning of it.

I was given a large box of medals and the like by a widow and none of her kids or other family wanted it and while it was interesting I ended up selling a large amount of it to collectors.

I think a large amount of people that collect the real items due so for the historical reason and not that they are 88s. Those dumbfucks mostly buy the repos
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:36:27 AM EDT
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I have some German, Italian and Japanese stuff from WWII that my great-uncles and grandpas brought back after taking them off guys that didn't need whatever it was anymore, simply having something with a war story attached to it doesn't mean anything beyond the story and a piece of history. The same goes for people who study WWII history either professionally or as a hobbyist, I have a Finnish WWII fur hat just because I thought it was a neat piece of history and a wax paper pack of Martini-Henry rounds even though I don't own one, and I have tons of US military stuff going back to the Revolutionary War, most of which is family hand-me-downs too; because history is cool.

Now if someone's looking at militaria catalogs saying,"You know this SS tie tack would really tie my whole outfit together..." then that could be a whole different story.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:40:35 AM EDT
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I've got a few Nazi items, and I have more than a few allied items...

Some of that shit is possessed, and I mean that in all honesty. I have an early WWII raincoat that I found a few lucky strikes in, and the thing brought all sort of weird mojo.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:44:08 AM EDT
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I posted some of the nazi pins I found in my great grandfathers 101st Airborne uniform I inherited.

They will stay in the pocket I found them in.

Stuff like this should be remembered. That being said, I wouldn't ever buy any.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:48:06 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:53:22 AM EDT
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1,000 pounds? That's like what, $1500? I would buy it for that, easy. I figured it would sell for like 75 grand. Maybe that is the auction starting price?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 1:15:19 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2017 1:26:42 AM EDT
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1,000 pounds? That's like what, $1500? I would buy it for that, easy. I figured it would sell for like 75 grand. Maybe that is the auction starting price?
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That was my first thought as well. Vey cheap, it has to be a starting price.

As for collecting war memorabilia,  nothing wrong with it at all. US, German, Japanese. Huge hobby, at least it was. My Dad use to take me to military shows as a kid and hot damn was there some cool shit. I have always wanted a German gravity knife but they are expensive. Just like colecting anything else, it is just an inanimate object. The Germans loved their flair and had medals and daggars for about anything. My Dad still has some of his collection.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 3:05:59 AM EDT
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That was my first thought as well. Vey cheap, it has to be a starting price.

As for collecting war memorabilia,  nothing wrong with it at all. US, German, Japanese. Huge hobby, at least it was. My Dad use to take me to military shows as a kid and hot damn was there some cool shit. I have always wanted a German gravity knife but they are expensive. Just like colecting anything else, it is just an inanimate object. The Germans loved their flair and had medals and daggars for about anything. My Dad still has some of his collection.
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1,000 pounds? That's like what, $1500? I would buy it for that, easy. I figured it would sell for like 75 grand. Maybe that is the auction starting price?
That was my first thought as well. Vey cheap, it has to be a starting price.

As for collecting war memorabilia,  nothing wrong with it at all. US, German, Japanese. Huge hobby, at least it was. My Dad use to take me to military shows as a kid and hot damn was there some cool shit. I have always wanted a German gravity knife but they are expensive. Just like colecting anything else, it is just an inanimate object. The Germans loved their flair and had medals and daggars for about anything. My Dad still has some of his collection.
It has to be.  He was such an important Nazi that something like that has to be worth some serious coin.  

I am sure other trinkets have gone for more.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 3:07:41 AM EDT
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The star of David on the coat of arms is quite interesting.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 3:28:24 AM EDT
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Its history for most people.

And the unbalanced people who would like to own it for the wrong reasons generally can't afford it.

Some of the biggest nazi collectors out there are Jewish. I asked one why. He said it was satisfying for him to now own the stuff that was once so precious to them.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 3:41:44 AM EDT
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When i was in high school I went to a play after party with some girl. About 1/2 way through I noticed that in a room we were not really allowed had furniture with swastikas and relief carvings it would have been really expensive furniture without the swastikas I cant imagine what i would cost as a nazi collectible. It was confusing because I was pretty sure that the family was Jewish. The father noticed me looking at the furniture and explained that his family in Germany built furniture before the war and had been put in camps and forced to work building furniture and they could have made the ones he bought. I asked why they would have them displayed and he said so no one forgets what happened. the set really creeped me out  but I guess I understand his reasoning. 
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 3:46:43 AM EDT
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Do you also think we've always been at war with Eastasia? 
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 3:53:41 AM EDT
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One of our sarcasm meters is malfunctiong
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 3:54:54 AM EDT
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/09/world/iraq-isis-heritage/index.html

Historic artifacts scare some folks.
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I did a final presentation for an anthropology class (low level community college stuff). The topic was at risk archaeology site around the world and the example were things like tourism trampling site and modern building and such. I chose the topic of ISIS destroying ancient sites, and pointed out that things had degraded to the point that military intervention was the only possible thing left to save some (especially the site I showcased).  Some of the initial peer review feedback I got online was that I didn't show any other options than that which could be done. 

For the final presentation I pointed out that during the writing of my report people found it hard to grasp how fast things move in a warzone, and that my project no longer mattered as site I had showcased was already destroyed, the ruins and statues blown in place and bulldozed over. 
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 3:57:25 AM EDT
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I have a bunch o hajji shit from buildings we cleared and vehicles we destroyed, I get the fascination with captured stuff. 


Maybe you should look up the word memorabilia, it might be a clue as to why people are interested in stuff you don't like. 
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 3:59:05 AM EDT
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I did a final presentation for an anthropology class (low level community college stuff). The topic was at risk archaeology site around the world and the example were things like tourism trampling site and modern building and such. I chose the topic of ISIS destroying ancient sites, and pointed out that things had degraded to the point that military intervention was the only possible thing left to save some (especially the site I showcased).  Some of the initial peer review feedback I got online was that I didn't show any other options than that which could be done. 

For the final presentation I pointed out that during the writing of my report people found it hard to grasp how fast things move in a warzone, and that my project no longer mattered as site I had showcased was already destroyed, the ruins and statues blown in place and bulldozed over. 
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That's deep as fuck.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:20:46 AM EDT
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It's a piece of history that shouldn't exist since the government overlords tried to destroy all the Nazi stuff, so we can forget what happened and repeat it over and over again.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:26:22 AM EDT
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Weird how one former enemy holds such a stigma but others don't.

A buddy of mine used to have a rising sun flag that he would cover his sportbike with in the garage. The rising sun is often displayed on drifter/rice cars too.
I have a hammer and sickle pin on the sling of one of my Mosin Nagants.

I would say the imperial Japanese were every bit as evil as the nazis, ditto for the soviets.

Honestly, I am neither here nor there about nazi memorabilia. History is what it is and we should learn it and make sure future generations are aware, if not anything for examples of the evil that mankind is capable of.

Naziism, communism and the fanaticism of WWII Japan are utterly fascinating case studies in mob psychology, the power of suggestion and the impact that a persuasive leader can have on even the most advanced, educated and well meaning of societies.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:34:25 AM EDT
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I see no problem with collecting a piece like this.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:08:29 AM EDT
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I have a bunch o hajji shit from buildings we cleared and vehicles we destroyed, I get the fascination with captured stuff. 


Maybe you should look up the word memorabilia, it might be a clue as to why people are interested in stuff you don't like. 
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I have never understood the fascination with nazi memorabilia.  Unless your family member took it as a trophy after battle why would you want that stuff?  

US military memorabilia I do find interesting.
I have a bunch o hajji shit from buildings we cleared and vehicles we destroyed, I get the fascination with captured stuff. 


Maybe you should look up the word memorabilia, it might be a clue as to why people are interested in stuff you don't like. 
No need for you to get butthurt about it. Maybe you should reread what I wrote.  

In fact you proved my point.  You have trophys as memorabilia.  I was never in combat with "hadjis", what would you think if you came to my house and saw a room full of things like you brought back?  It makes sense for you to have them.  Me, not so much.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:14:41 AM EDT
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Does this trigger your feels?

Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:27:11 AM EDT
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I have no problem with collecting military memorabilia, I own several Katana's and I also own a WWII German officer's 9mm Luger that was taken from a German officer by my great Uncle, I have great understanding and compassion for what happened in WWII, but we can't erase the past by destroying the past.  If I had the opportunity to purchase this cigar case I would with no regrets, it would be a symbol, you lost and now we own what you cherished you fucking sick bastards..

We can learn from the past, but only if we remember the past, don't destroy it because the person that owned it was evil, the cigar box is not evil, the person that owned it was evil and rejoice in the fact that he is tortured in hell.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:40:03 AM EDT
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I bet 100k is a more reasonable price
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:44:49 AM EDT
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I have a fairly sizable collection of Wehrmacht Heer, Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine, and SS medals, badges, daggers, and uniform items on display in my study.

I always make it a point to tell people I condemn Nazism before I allow them to see my collection (which I have shown in the life member forum before).

I am historically interested in the war and the German armed forces, and that's as far as it goes, period.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:55:07 AM EDT
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Not sure on the actual figures, but if it can be proven to be authentic and the provenience is clear then it definitely seems under-priced.

I think there was a thread not too long ago about someone trying to auction a pair of Hitler's underwear off for more than what they seem to want for this silver cigar box. Even if you put aside the assholes that owned them you'd think a silver cigar box would be worth much more than 70 year old dirty underwear.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:00:27 AM EDT
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I don't understand the stigma. The History channel makes a living off nazi and death camp documentaries, Netflix does, Amazon has TMITHC but if you buy a nazi flag you're some kind of scum racist.

It doesn't make any sense to me.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:02:33 AM EDT
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We have those crybaby's over here that protest the selling of Nazi stuff.

Ironically they want to ban the selling of Nazi stuff because a state banning things they don't like is not Nazi like
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:11:58 AM EDT
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Exactly this.

I have a Mauser C96 in near new condition that my paratrooper father took off a German officer in WWII.  

Too bad it was lost in the boating accident.    
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:15:00 AM EDT
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We have those crybaby's over here that protest the selling of Nazi stuff.

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The second part, in particular, is typical of leftists all over. They'll cheerfully use fascist tactics to "fight fascism" but the thing is their definition of fascism is "anything we don't like." The idiots on college campuses are the most hypocritical ones out there, they'll riot to protest a speaker they don't like, citing free speech as justification for their rioting and then just giving a blank stare (at best, usually they just start swearing and chanting) when someone points out the person speaking has the same right to freely speak as they do, and furthermore rioting isn't exactly covered under the 1st Amendment.

They aren't the most logical bunch.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:20:35 AM EDT
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Exactly this.

I have a Mauser C96 in near new condition that my paratrooper father took off a German officer in WWII.  

Too bad it was lost in the boating accident.    
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The Luger that my one great-uncle took of a Hermann Göring  Division guy on Sicily, along with his cuff title, actually did get lost in an actual boating accident in the late '70s/early '80s.

He was going to leave that one to me too. I beat the shit out of my cousin for dropping it in a lake while fucking around with his idiot friends, I still have the cuff title though. And my cousin is still a moron as an adult, if anything he got worse. 
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:31:49 AM EDT
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It's history
Let people be
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:34:42 AM EDT
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I don't understand the stigma. The History channel makes a living off nazi and death camp documentaries, Netflix does, Amazon has TMITHC but if you buy a nazi flag you're some kind of scum racist.

It doesn't make any sense to me.
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There's no sense to be made by a rational mind
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 7:25:04 AM EDT
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I want a g43 so guess that makes me a monster 
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 7:28:34 AM EDT
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I have never understood the fascination with nazi memorabilia.  Unless your family member took it as a trophy after battle why would you want that stuff?  

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How can you find one interesting but not the other?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 7:49:02 AM EDT
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Its history for most people.

And the unbalanced people who would like to own it for the wrong reasons generally can't afford it.

Some of the biggest nazi collectors out there are Jewish. I asked one why. He said it was satisfying for him to now own the stuff that was once so precious to them.
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That's an interesting reason.

As somebody who had part of my family  pretty much destroyed, my own grandmother kidnapped, forced labour, tortured and experimented on and the rest of my relatives fighting them. Not something  id personally  want to own.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 7:51:17 AM EDT
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German uniform and helmet variations were way more interesting than USGI gear.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 7:53:25 AM EDT
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1,000 pounds? That's like what, $1500? I would buy it for that, easy. I figured it would sell for like 75 grand. Maybe that is the auction starting price?
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1000 lbs is in reference to Fat Herman's weight.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 7:56:45 AM EDT
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Nah.  Everything in scale.  The collecting community is awash in bullshit tied to specific people... I don't see this box going above $3-5k USD.


I was just at a military collectors' show and, as much as I defend collecting "trophies," some of these guys are overboard.  I like the "my grandpappy kicked your grandpappy's ass" mentality, but some folks are beyond collectors... they have a fetish.  I'm glad history is preserved, but you don't have to dress up as an SS officer to do it.
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