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Posted: 9/9/2004 12:18:02 PM EST
Will they ever come to see the light of thinking for ones self? is it worth our time to try and guide them down the path to enlightenment, or must they discover it for themselves?

What causes this phenomenon?

What do you think could be done to make people think for themselves, or even vote once in a while.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 12:22:56 PM EST
What is the definition of sheeple?

Are these just the great unwashed masses that Lenin spoke of?

Are they people that just dont agree with us?

Or are they people that dont subscribe to a particular set of ethos?

Both us here at Arfcom, the Freepers, and the DUh all speak of the sheeple, are we all speaking of the same group?
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 12:23:18 PM EST
I say give up.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 12:23:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By killingmachine123:
Will they ever come to see the light of thinking for ones self?



Probably not


is it worth our time to try and guide them down the path to enlightenment, or must they discover it for themselves?


They must discover it for themselves, otherwise they remain sheep being led by a different shepherd. (that one belongs in a book!)



What causes this phenomenon?


Selfishness and laziness.


What do you think could be done to make people think for themselves, or even vote once in a while.


They must have a spark ignite the interest in taking charge of their destiny. It will be different for everyone, and for most it will never happen at all.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 12:27:59 PM EST
If someone genuinly (sp?) has the interest to learn something without having too many pre-concieved notions (i.w. AWB good example,) I will do my best to set em' straight.

But when they want to debate the mis-information just for the sake of debate.....I don't waste my time. I got better things to do.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 12:30:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By WI_Rifleman:
What is the definition of sheeple?



I have always siad that Jim Rome's rule for calling into his radio show is a good thing to do in life.

"you must have a take, and it must not suck."

If you cant form your own take, you are a sheep.

You can however simply acknowledge that you have not read or heard anyone speek about said situation, and that you will have to look into it. This is OK, you dont have to know everything, but you must think for yourself.

It seems like people are taking what others tell them as fact, and are not contemplating the ideas that they are presented with. I see this to be ahuge problem in out society. Just look at all the crap that people are willing to believe. The end of the AWB will allow people to runn around with machine guns. Buy duct tape incase of a nuclear attack by terrorists. The list goes on and on.
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 12:39:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/9/2004 12:40:43 PM EST by Airwolf]
The Parable of the Sheep

By Charles Riggs

Not so long ago and in a pasture too uncomfortably close to here, a flock of sheep lived and grazed.

They were protected by a dog, who answered to the master, but despite his best efforts from time to time a nearby pack of wolves would prey upon the flock.

One day a group of sheep, bolder than the rest, met to discuss their dilemma. "Our dog is good, and vigilant, but he is one and the wolves are many. The wolves he catches are not always killed, and the master judges and releases many to prey again upon us, for no reason we can understand. What can we do? We are sheep, but we do not wish to be food, too!"

One sheep spoke up, saying "It is his teeth and claws that make the wolf so terrible to us. It is his nature to prey, and he would find any way to do it, but it is the tools he wields that make it possible. If we had such teeth, we could fight back, and stop this savagery." The other sheep clamored in agreement, and they went together to the old bones of the dead wolves heaped in the corner of the pasture, and gathered fang and claw and made them into weapons.

That night, when the wolves came, the newly armed sheep sprang up with their weapons and struck at them, crying, "Begone! We are not food!" and drove off the wolves, who were astonished. When did sheep become so bold and so dangerous to wolves? When did sheep grow teeth? It was unthinkable!

The next day, flush with victory and waving their weapons, they approached the flock to pronounce their discovery. But as they drew nigh, the flock huddled together and cried out, "Baaaaaaaadddd! Baaaaaddd things! You have bad things! We are afraid! You are not sheep!"

The brave sheep stopped, amazed. "But we are your brethren!" they cried. "We are still sheep, but we do not wish to be food. See, our new teeth and claws protect us and have saved us from slaughter. They do not make us into wolves, they make us equal to the wolves, and safe from their viciousness!"

"Baaaaaaad!" cried the flock, "the things are bad and will pervert you, and we fear them. You cannot bring them into the flock!" So the armed sheep resolved to conceal their weapons, for although they had no desire to panic the flock, they wished to remain in the fold. But they would not return to those nights of terror, waiting for the wolves to come.

In time, the wolves attacked less often and sought easier prey, for they had no stomach for fighting sheep who possessed tooth and claw even as they did. Not knowing which sheep had fangs and which did not, they came to leave sheep out of their diet almost completely except for the occasional raid, from which more than one wolf did not return.

Then came the day when, as the flock grazed beside the stream, one sheep’s weapon slipped from the folds of her fleece, and the flock cried out in terror again, "Baaaaaad! You still possess these evil things! We must ban you from our presence!"

And so they did. The great chief sheep and his council, encouraged by the words of their advisors, placed signs and totems at the edges of the pasture forbidding the presence of hidden weapons there. The armed sheep protested before the council, saying, "It is our pasture, too, and we have never harmed you! When can you say we have caused you hurt? It is the wolves, not we, who prey upon you. We are still sheep, but we are not food!" But the flock drowned them out with cries of "Baaaaaaddd! We will not hear your clever words! You and your things are evil and will harm us!"

Saddened by this rejection, the armed sheep moved off and spent their days on the edges of the flock, trying from time to time to speak with their brethren to convince them of the wisdom of having such teeth, but meeting with little success. They found it hard to talk to those who, upon hearing their words, would roll back their eyes and flee, crying "Baaaaddd! Bad things!"

That night, the wolves happened upon the sheep’s totems and signs, and said, "Truly, these sheep are fools! They have told us they have no teeth! Brothers, let us feed!" And they set upon the flock, and horrible was the carnage in the midst of the fold. The dog fought like a demon, and often seemed to be in two places at once, but even he could not halt the slaughter.

It was only when the other sheep arrived with their weapons that the wolves fled, only to remain on the edge of the pasture and wait for the next time they could prey, for if the sheep were so foolish once, they would be so again. This they did, and do still.

In the morning, the armed sheep spoke to the flock, and said, "See? If the wolves know you have no teeth, they will fall upon you. Why be prey? To be a sheep does not mean to be food for wolves!" But the flock cried out, more feebly for their voices were fewer, though with no less terror, "Baaaaaaaad! These things are bad! If they were banished, the wolves would not harm us! Baaaaaaad!"

So they resolved to retain their weapons, but to conceal them from the flock; to endure their fear and loathing, and even to protect their brethren if the need arose, until the day the flock learned to understand that as long as there were wolves in the night, sheep would need teeth to repel them.

They would still be sheep, but they would not be food!
Link Posted: 9/9/2004 12:40:49 PM EST
Already have.
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