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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:44:06 PM EDT
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Since the big threat to free speech today is actually coming from the private sector in the form of "if we can't have you thrown in jail, we can at least get you fired from your job", should there be a law that prohibits your employer from discriminating on the basis of your opinions? In other words, should there be a "civil rights" style law to protect free speech? If the employer is not a government entity then no way. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:44:21 PM EDT
[#2]
No, we have too many of those already.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:45:41 PM EDT
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No, we have too many of those already. 
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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:46:04 PM EDT
[#4]
No. Employers should be able to hire/fire at will.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:48:43 PM EDT
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No. Employers should be able to hire/fire at will. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:51:52 PM EDT
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No. Employers should be able to hire/fire at will. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:52:18 PM EDT
[#7]
More laws are seldom the answer.
Every time an employer fires someone, they will claim the firing was over this. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:53:46 PM EDT
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No. Employers should be able to hire/fire at will. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:54:04 PM EDT
[#9]
So let's say my employee stands on the street corner on his own time with a sign advocating for pedophilia. It's his opinion. Are you saying I should be barred from sacking the sick fuck?
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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:54:07 PM EDT
[#10]
No.
You should be abled to be fired for just about anything. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:55:09 PM EDT
[#11]
No, if someone comes into an organization with vastly different views than the majority there, it creates conflict in the work place and the employer should be able to fire someone because of it.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:56:28 PM EDT
[#12]
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Since the big threat to free speech today is actually coming from the private sector in the form of "if we can't have you thrown in jail, we can at least get you fired from your job", should there be a law that prohibits your employer from discriminating on the basis of your opinions? In other words, should there be a "civil rights" style law to protect free speech? Depending on the state, such laws already exist. They just are infrequently or indifferently enforced. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:58:01 PM EDT
[#13]
Of course not.
You have a right to behave like an asshole. Your boss has a right to keep your asshole behavior from hurting his business. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:58:19 PM EDT
[#14]
passage voice useage should be regulated.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:59:39 PM EDT
[#15]
No. Private means just that. Private. If you owned a business, you wouldnt want the government telling you how you can or cant run it. Dont start asking it to tell others how to run theirs so that your feelings can be protected. This is the EXACT same shit the left keeps asking for.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:03:21 PM EDT
[#16]
No
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:05:19 PM EDT
[#17]
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No. You should be abled to be fired for just about anything. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:06:05 PM EDT
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We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal and are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, among them are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and that to secure these rights government's are instituted among men...
The greatest and most important right of any person is their right to speak their minds. The greatest difference between humans and the rest of the animal kingdom is that we are able to consume information, process it, form opinions on it and express those opinions. The liberty to express those opinions without fear of reprisal is the key difference between free people and the oppressed. If our government cannot secure for us the right to express our opinions without fear of reprisal, then what good is our government? What difference does it make to an oppressed person if their oppressor is a government or an employer? If you cannot express your own opinions out of fear of losing your livelihood then can you truly consider yourself to be free? |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:07:04 PM EDT
[#19]
That would be yet another stupid law.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:07:24 PM EDT
[#20]
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No, we have too many of those already. Quote HistoryQuoted:
No, we have too many of those already.  LESS Goobermint, not more.
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No. Employers should be able to hire/fire at will.  They had to do a song-and-dance to come up with a phony excuse to fire him; why could they not simply say, "Sorry, we don't like faggots, yer fired."  Where in the Constitution or BOR does it say this is any affair of Uncle Sam? 
The problem is that now, we are playing with a stacked deck. There are laws against not hiring or firing someone b/c of their gender, skin color, being a faggot, or their religion; there are ZERO laws protecting normal white hetero males. Take all these anti-freedom laws down; this is none of .gov's affair. 
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:09:23 PM EDT
[#21]
Keep your opinions to yourself and do your job. No problemo.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:09:26 PM EDT
[#22]
Some states already protect employees from being fired or punished for legal activities outside of work.
What the left is actively doing is basically AROCKing people who disagree with them and bombarding their employers on social media, with emails, phone calls, and in person, until the employer gives in and fires the person. This is even though they have done nothing wrong other than land in the crosshairs of an sjw mob |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:09:47 PM EDT
[#23]
In that case, everyone here is willing to be fired from their private employer because they have posted on AR15.com. OK, so why the "AROCK" butthurt? Shouldn't you all just consider it part and parcel of being a gun owner?
If a person uses their position or employment as a platform for speech, then I understand it. If it is private speech that does not affect the company or employee performance, then people should be protected. You shouldn't have to worry about being fired from Megacorp because your immediate supervisor is a leftist who hates gun owners. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:10:08 PM EDT
[#24]
Employment at Will.
My business my Rules. Got it? |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:12:18 PM EDT
[#25]
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Keep your opinions to yourself and do your job. No problemo. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:13:06 PM EDT
[#26]
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Since the big threat to free speech today is actually coming from the private sector in the form of "if we can't have you thrown in jail, we can at least get you fired from your job", should there be a law that prohibits your employer from discriminating on the basis of your opinions? In other words, should there be a "civil rights" style law to protect free speech? nope. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:15:10 PM EDT
[#27]
Nope.
As an employee, you already have the right to choose between your paycheck and your opinions. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:15:12 PM EDT
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Keep your opinions to yourself and do your job. No problemo. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:16:35 PM EDT
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Nope. As an employee, you already have the right to choose between your paycheck and your opinions. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:17:35 PM EDT
[#30]
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Keep your opinions to yourself and do your job. No problemo. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:19:08 PM EDT
[#31]
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So let's say my employee stands on the street corner on his own time with a sign advocating for pedophilia. It's his opinion. Are you saying I should be barred from sacking the sick fuck? Totally agree, more laws are not the answer to these issues. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:22:29 PM EDT
[#32]
Where I a business owner I would like to hold onto the ability to fire ANTIFA/commies.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:22:48 PM EDT
[#33]
On the clock or off the clock?
As a simple yes or no though, no. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:23:30 PM EDT
[#34]
No
A public opinion can negatively effect a companies image. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:24:17 PM EDT
[#35]
just do what people did before there was social media, and keep your beliefs to your fucking self at work.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:25:16 PM EDT
[#36]
No. Fuck off with that shit.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:25:48 PM EDT
[#37]
Hell no.
I should be able to fire a motherfucker for whatever reason I want. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:26:21 PM EDT
[#38]
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Hacker gets into AR15.com and steals membership info. Puts you on a "FIRE" list on DU. Your leftist manager reads it and fires you because GUNS and UNSTABLE RIGHT-WINGER. You've always done an excellent job, and been social with co-workers. Now, you can't get a job because of your "termination for cause", and because your manager expresses "concerns" about you when called for a reference/ background. Tell me again how that is fair? Social conformity, that's how societies survive. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:26:32 PM EDT
[#39]
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No. Employers should be able to hire/fire at will. What we have is a double standard where you can be fired for conservative views but not for liberal views. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:26:54 PM EDT
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just do what people did before there was social media, and keep your beliefs to your fucking self at work. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:27:21 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
No. Employers should be able to hire/fire at will. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:27:47 PM EDT
[#42]
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Since the big threat to free speech today is actually coming from the private sector in the form of "if we can't have you thrown in jail, we can at least get you fired from your job", should there be a law that prohibits your employer from discriminating on the basis of your opinions? In other words, should there be a "civil rights" style law to protect free speech? Opinions aren't the issue, behavior is. Chris |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:28:59 PM EDT
[#43]
As a business owner, I should be able to fire anyone, anytime, with no reason given. That's actually how it is in Florida. Thank God!
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:37:03 PM EDT
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Realistically, most liberals are already in a protected class and they could attribute their firing to being a member of that class.
Conservatives are in large part, NOT a member of a protected class and can be fired because they cannot link their views to their status within a protected class. Darwin could easily pick which group will progressively  gain more power in the workplace.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:37:16 PM EDT
[#45]
No. They should be free to spend their money as they see fit.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:37:27 PM EDT
[#46]
So ARFCOM wants a law passed much like what we have here in California? That's a first. Haha.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:37:28 PM EDT
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Stupidity should hurt. The .gov MAYBE (in caps because I'm not sure anymore) can't violate the 1st. But you live and die by your words in the private sector.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:38:49 PM EDT
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We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal and are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, among them are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and that to secure these rights government's are instituted among men... The greatest and most important right of any person is their right to speak their minds. The greatest difference between humans and the rest of the animal kingdom is that we are able to consume information, process it, form opinions on it and express those opinions. The liberty to express those opinions without fear of reprisal is the key difference between free people and the oppressed. If our government cannot secure for us the right to express our opinions without fear of reprisal, then what good is our government? What difference does it make to an oppressed person if their oppressor is a government or an employer? If you cannot express your own opinions out of fear of losing your livelihood then can you truly consider yourself to be free? lol, ok. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:39:34 PM EDT
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I work in the oilfield. You won't get fired for your retarded and unpopular opinions, you'll quit.
The 2 acceptable work-related topics of conversation are 1, how fucked up the job at hand is/upcoming job will be, and 2, how bad everyone's getting fucked. The 4 non work-related topics of conversation are 1, guns, 2, bow hunting, 3, trucks, and 4, pussy. If you have something to say that is not related to any or all of those 6 topics, shut the fuck up, because ain't nobody got time for that.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:40:04 PM EDT
[#50]
Liberty vs license
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