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Posted: 1/19/2015 12:20:38 PM EST
What sayeth the hive?
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well the VA is closed so i think it already is
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Why shouldn't it be?
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Member of the Communist Party and actively worked against our forces in IndoChina to have an NVA/VC victory(aka treason).
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How many illegitimate kids did he have?
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Member of the Communist Party and actively worked against our forces in IndoChina to have an NVA/VC victory(aka treason).
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Originally Posted By macaho45:
Why shouldn't it be?
Member of the Communist Party and actively worked against our forces in IndoChina to have an NVA/VC victory(aka treason).




Did he really spend time in Vietnam?
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Why should it be?

The man who actually freed the slaves in the U. S. doesn't get his own federal holiday.
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Why do we even have federal holidays?
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Originally Posted By macaho45:
Why shouldn't it be?
Member of the Communist Party and actively worked against our forces in IndoChina to have an NVA/VC victory(aka treason).
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/mlking.asp
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Because there's no reason for it to exist as a holiday. It he didn't get shot it would have never been proposed.
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Because there's no reason for it to exist as a holiday. It he didn't get shot it would have never been proposed.
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Originally Posted By macaho45:
Why shouldn't it be?


Because there's no reason for it to exist as a holiday. It he didn't get shot it would have never been proposed.




Not give the face and voice of the Civil Rights Movement a holiday? He being shot had nothing to do with it.
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Originally Posted By MaverickH1:
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This.
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This.
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Why do we even have federal holidays?


This.

Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:39:24 PM EST
Sure....He was blind the whole time.
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No. Very few private businesses close. It is just another day that the federal (and some state) government employees get to have off. So the real question is whether the lazy, overpaid bureaucrats should have yet another day off. I vote fuck no.
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Why should it be?
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Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:
No. Very few private businesses close. It is just another day that the federal (and some state) government employees get to have off. So the real question is whether the lazy, overpaid bureaucrats should have yet another day off. I vote fuck no.
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Originally Posted By tango1978:
Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:
No. Very few private businesses close. It is just another day that the federal (and some state) government employees get to have off. So the real question is whether the lazy, overpaid bureaucrats should have yet another day off. I vote fuck no.



Get back to your fucking office so you can not to do work there you lazy, overpaid bureaucrat.
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Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:
No. Very few private businesses close. It is just another day that the federal (and some state) government employees get to have off. So the real question is whether the lazy, overpaid bureaucrats should have yet another day off.
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I work for a private company and for some reason we get today off and don't agree with it. I'm a big fan of floating holidays and the freedom to choose what days I take off.
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Originally Posted By HenryReardon:

Why should it be?

The man who actually freed the slaves in the U. S. doesn't get his own federal holiday.
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Originally Posted By HenryReardon:
Originally Posted By macaho45:
Why shouldn't it be?

Why should it be?

The man who actually freed the slaves in the U. S. doesn't get his own federal holiday.


Do you reeeeeally think Lincoln cared about blacks? Granted, in his desperation to retain tyranny, slavery was abolished, but he didn't care about negroes.

I do get your point, though.
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Originally Posted By TescoVee:
I work for a private company and for some reason we get today off and don't agree with it. I'm a big fan of floating holidays and the freedom to choose what days I take off.
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Originally Posted By TescoVee:
Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:
No. Very few private businesses close. It is just another day that the federal (and some state) government employees get to have off. So the real question is whether the lazy, overpaid bureaucrats should have yet another day off.
I work for a private company and for some reason we get today off and don't agree with it. I'm a big fan of floating holidays and the freedom to choose what days I take off.


Aside from some banks, I don't know of any private businesses around here who take today off.
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No. Labour Day should also be eliminated. The Constitution's anniversary should be made a holiday instead, and Columbus Day should be restored to a more prestigious position than that to which it has been demoted.
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Aside from some banks, I don't know of any private businesses around here who take today off.
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Originally Posted By XMM:
Originally Posted By TescoVee:
Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:
No. Very few private businesses close. It is just another day that the federal (and some state) government employees get to have off. So the real question is whether the lazy, overpaid bureaucrats should have yet another day off.
I work for a private company and for some reason we get today off and don't agree with it. I'm a big fan of floating holidays and the freedom to choose what days I take off.


Aside from some banks, I don't know of any private businesses around here who take today off.


Yep. Those and the ones that are intimately tied to the government tit.
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Originally Posted By XMM:


Aside from some banks, I don't know of any private businesses around here who take today off.
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Originally Posted By XMM:
Originally Posted By TescoVee:
Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:
No. Very few private businesses close. It is just another day that the federal (and some state) government employees get to have off. So the real question is whether the lazy, overpaid bureaucrats should have yet another day off.
I work for a private company and for some reason we get today off and don't agree with it. I'm a big fan of floating holidays and the freedom to choose what days I take off.


Aside from some banks, I don't know of any private businesses around here who take today off.
We have ~70,000 employees worldwide. Not sure how many are in the US but a good chunk of them are. ETA: Not a bank or attached to the gov tit.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:54:30 PM EST
Absolutely not, especially after watching that video about communism and a black nation within a nation..
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Yes. I love the holiday pay!
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:57:28 PM EST
fuck no!
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Originally Posted By bigstick61:
No. Labour Day should also be eliminated. The Constitution's anniversary should be made a holiday instead, and Columbus Day should be restored to a more prestigious position than that to which it has been demoted.
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And what did Columbus do, exactly? Didn't discover anything and didn't settle much either. He's the story we tell kids in school. That's it.
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I think New Hampshire was the last hold-out. It's not a hospital/clinic holiday so I am working today.
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Originally Posted By macaho45:
Why shouldn't it be?
Member of the Communist Party and actively worked against our forces in IndoChina to have an NVA/VC victory(aka treason).

Just stop...

MLK was a great conservative. The man was great civil rights leader who relied on conservative values to get his message across.
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Originally Posted By HenryReardon:

Why should it be?

The man who actually freed the slaves in the U. S. doesn't get his own federal holiday.
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Originally Posted By HenryReardon:
Originally Posted By macaho45:
Why shouldn't it be?

Why should it be?

The man who actually freed the slaves in the U. S. doesn't get his own federal holiday.

Sherman?
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Originally Posted By XMM:


Do you reeeeeally think Lincoln cared about blacks? Granted, in his desperation to retain tyranny, slavery was abolished, but he didn't care about negroes.

I do get your point, though.
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Originally Posted By XMM:
Originally Posted By HenryReardon:
Originally Posted By macaho45:
Why shouldn't it be?

Why should it be?

The man who actually freed the slaves in the U. S. doesn't get his own federal holiday.


Do you reeeeeally think Lincoln cared about blacks? Granted, in his desperation to retain tyranny, slavery was abolished, but he didn't care about negroes.

I do get your point, though.

What difference does Lincoln's level of empathy for blacks make? He freed the slaves. Apparently, that was not as important as making a very good speech on the National Mall. Based on that criteria, I expect that within the next five years we'll see a bill introduced in Congress for a national Obama holiday.

For a lot of people in this country, today is a black holiday, not a U. S. holiday, and there's the core of the problem
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And what did Columbus do, exactly? Didn't discover anything and didn't settle much either. He's the story we tell kids in school. That's it.
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Originally Posted By Tridgerat:
Originally Posted By bigstick61:
No. Labour Day should also be eliminated. The Constitution's anniversary should be made a holiday instead, and Columbus Day should be restored to a more prestigious position than that to which it has been demoted.


And what did Columbus do, exactly? Didn't discover anything and didn't settle much either. He's the story we tell kids in school. That's it.


He is responsible for all the World's evils and also bringing indoor plumbing to North America.
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Why should it be?
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Originally Posted By tango1978:
Originally Posted By macaho45:
Why shouldn't it be?

Why should it be?


I voted yes and apparently i am in the 22% minority.
He was a good man and a Great speaker. He died for his beliefs of something higher/better. He impacted millions of people.
His dream has been co-opted and perverted beyond any vision the man, himself, had but it is still a good dream.

You guys do know he was a Republican, right? Both him and his father. (ETA: well, beardog30 and some others do) Fucking Bobby Kennedy threatened to jail them both so they changed over to Dem. I probably would too to stay out of jail and keep spreading the word.
Labor day?, fuck it, get rid of that one if you want to get rid of anything.
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Originally Posted By Tridgerat:


And what did Columbus do, exactly? Didn't discover anything and didn't settle much either. He's the story we tell kids in school. That's it.
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Originally Posted By Tridgerat:
Originally Posted By bigstick61:
No. Labour Day should also be eliminated. The Constitution's anniversary should be made a holiday instead, and Columbus Day should be restored to a more prestigious position than that to which it has been demoted.


And what did Columbus do, exactly? Didn't discover anything and didn't settle much either. He's the story we tell kids in school. That's it.


It's the symbolism behind his arrival in the New World that matters.
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NO.
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Not give the face and voice of the Civil Rights Movement a holiday? He being shot had nothing to do with it.
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Originally Posted By macaho45:
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Originally Posted By macaho45:
Why shouldn't it be?


Because there's no reason for it to exist as a holiday. It he didn't get shot it would have never been proposed.




Not give the face and voice of the Civil Rights Movement a holiday? He being shot had nothing to do with it.


He was made a martyr. It elevated his praise to worship.
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So we can buy shit at regular prices after they marked it up 30%.
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Originally Posted By Tridgerat:


And what did Columbus do, exactly? Didn't discover anything and didn't settle much either. He's the story we tell kids in school. That's it.
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Originally Posted By Tridgerat:
Originally Posted By bigstick61:
No. Labour Day should also be eliminated. The Constitution's anniversary should be made a holiday instead, and Columbus Day should be restored to a more prestigious position than that to which it has been demoted.


And what did Columbus do, exactly? Didn't discover anything and didn't settle much either. He's the story we tell kids in school. That's it.


Yep, at least MLK was a American.
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We hate Robert Byrd who opposed it as well.

Edited: Meant Robert.
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What do you have against skiing?

ML Day was made a holiday at the request of Big Ski to create another day off besides President's Day during ski season.
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And they'll find a way to call everyone a communist.
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And they'll find a way to call everyone a communist.
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Gd hates everyone in the civil rights movement.

And they'll find a way to call everyone a communist.

Fucking commie sympathizer.
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What difference does Lincoln's level of empathy for blacks make? He freed the slaves.
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Well... except he didn't....
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Originally Posted By DeltaElite777:


Well... except he didn't....
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What difference does Lincoln's level of empathy for blacks make? He freed the slaves.


Well... except he didn't....

Please, tell us the "real" story.
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Yep, at least MLK was a American.
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Originally Posted By Tridgerat:
Originally Posted By bigstick61:
No. Labour Day should also be eliminated. The Constitution's anniversary should be made a holiday instead, and Columbus Day should be restored to a more prestigious position than that to which it has been demoted.


And what did Columbus do, exactly? Didn't discover anything and didn't settle much either. He's the story we tell kids in school. That's it.


Yep, at least MLK was a American.


Nothing wrong with honouring a non-American whose actions had important consequences for what would eventually become our country, although IIRC he's been made an honourary American.
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Why should it be?
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Why shouldn't it be?

Why should it be?

Dont care , one way or the other.

Bigger fish to fry in this country.
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Originally Posted By HenryReardon:

Please, tell us the "real" story.
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Originally Posted By DeltaElite777:
Originally Posted By HenryReardon:

What difference does Lincoln's level of empathy for blacks make? He freed the slaves.


Well... except he didn't....

Please, tell us the "real" story.


He died before the slaves were freed. The Federal government did not interfere with slavery in the border States and the war against the southern States had not quite ended yet when he died. Slavery was abolished via the 13th Amendment subsequent to his death.
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