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Posted: 8/27/2004 3:21:22 AM EDT

Well I was at a range yesterday and got to run 100 rounds through an FN 5.7..... SWEET!
It shot so flat and no recoil.... at 25 yds I chewed the face out of the target.
Yes it will be my next Off Duty gun.... hopefully... they will make at lest 15 round magazines for it come Sept. 14.

Posted: 8/27/2004 3:23:03 AM EDT

[#1]

Other than the cost of the ammo, if a p;easure to shoot.
Haven't shot mine in a few months.

Posted: 8/27/2004 4:17:07 AM EDT

[#2]

I am sure they would be fun to shoot, hardly any recoil and large mag capacities in the non-neutered LEO/MIL versions.

But the effectiveness of the round those things fire is suspect at best. I wouldn't trust one as a carry piece. But for general merriment they are probably quite fun. Also great for squirrels.

Posted: 8/27/2004 4:37:08 AM EDT

[#3]

Aren't normal cap mags on these 20 ?

Posted: 8/27/2004 4:38:48 AM EDT

[#4]

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Aren't normal cap mags on these 20 ?

Yes, they are. I hear the recoil is like a .22lr pistol.

Posted: 8/27/2004 4:41:54 AM EDT

[#5]

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Aren't normal cap mags on these 20 ?

Yep, sweet isn't it?

Posted: 8/27/2004 6:02:47 AM EDT

[#6]

I came this {---} close to buying one, but got a SigPro .357 instead.

I love the SigPro BTW, but one of these would be cool.

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:18:44 AM EDT

[#7]

Ammo was $7 for 50, supoposed to be like a 5.56, tumbles inside,If I carry it for 6 monts I can take it off my taxes. Have to see how the mags go onthe 14th.

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:20:24 AM EDT

[#8]

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Yes it will be my next Off Duty gun

You're serious?

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:21:35 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
Well I was at a range yesterday and got to run 100 rounds through an FN 5.7..... SWEET!
It shot so flat and no recoil.... at 25 yds I chewed the face out of the target.
Yes it will be my next Off Duty gun.... hopefully... they will make at lest 15 round magazines for it come Sept. 14.

Everything shoots flat at 25 yards.

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:24:11 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
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Well I was at a range yesterday and got to run 100 rounds through an FN 5.7..... SWEET!
It shot so flat and no recoil.... at 25 yds I chewed the face out of the target.
Yes it will be my next Off Duty gun.... hopefully... they will make at lest 15 round magazines for it come Sept. 14.

Everything shoots flat at 25 yards.

Not a .45

Try hitting a pepper popper at theat distance

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:26:49 AM EDT

[#11]

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Ammo was $7 for 50, supoposed to be like a 5.56, tumbles inside,If I carry it for 6 monts I can take it off my taxes. Have to see how the mags go onthe 14th.

$7 per 50? Where

Oh yeah, and although this has been covered extensively already, THE BAN ENDS ON THE 13TH!

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:28:14 AM EDT

[#12]

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Well I was at a range yesterday and got to run 100 rounds through an FN 5.7..... SWEET!
It shot so flat and no recoil.... at 25 yds I chewed the face out of the target.
Yes it will be my next Off Duty gun.... hopefully... they will make at lest 15 round magazines for it come Sept. 14.

Everything shoots flat at 25 yards.

Not a .45

Try hitting a pepper popper at theat distance

OH BULLSHIT

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:28:34 AM EDT

[#13]

Even though everyone says the round is shit (especially the non-LEO one), I still really like the idea, and will be tempted to buy one if they're offered with 20-round mags after Sept 14.

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:34:01 AM EDT

[#14]

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Well I was at a range yesterday and got to run 100 rounds through an FN 5.7..... SWEET!
It shot so flat and no recoil.... at 25 yds I chewed the face out of the target.
Yes it will be my next Off Duty gun.... hopefully... they will make at lest 15 round magazines for it come Sept. 14.

Everything shoots flat at 25 yards.

Not a .45

Try hitting a pepper popper at theat distance

OH BULLSHIT

Well you DO have to aim high! There is a considerable diffrence between my .45 and my .38 super.

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:35:17 AM EDT

[#15]

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Well I was at a range yesterday and got to run 100 rounds through an FN 5.7..... SWEET!
It shot so flat and no recoil.... at 25 yds I chewed the face out of the target.
Yes it will be my next Off Duty gun.... hopefully... they will make at lest 15 round magazines for it come Sept. 14.

Everything shoots flat at 25 yards.

Not a .45

Try hitting a pepper popper at theat distance

Maybe you meant, not a 1911

My USP45tac will tear up the target at 25yds and the sights are right on!

P.S. I heard someone say TUMBLE.

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:39:46 AM EDT

[#16]

through body armor and tumble... the entire design of this caliber was based on the intent of that.

J

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:42:28 AM EDT

[#17]

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Even though everyone says the round is shit (especially the non-LEO one), I still really like the idea, and will be tempted to buy one if they're offered with 20-round mags after Sept 14.

+1
I think it's a good idea. Once we can have the 20rnd. mags back and they bring out the Government model. It's the next pistol on my list of "guns to buy". In the "Real World" the last thing that you want is over penetration, with this round you shouldn't have to worry about it too much, plus, that little bullet tumbling around inside someone is bound to do a bunch of damage. I like the concept, I think it'll be like the AR, they'll be a few bugs to work out with regaurd to ammo but once that's done it'll be the wave of the future.

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:44:02 AM EDT

[#18]

Actually, I believe it was designed to penetrate body armor

It was HOPED it would tumble, since it is basically a slowed down 5.56 round otherwise

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:44:28 AM EDT

[#19]

Funny GC, Ive shot a hell of a lot of .45 and I dont have to hold any differently at 25yds. You're lucky if the drop is 2" at that range.

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:47:38 AM EDT

[#20]

ugh.. 25yds? That's like point-blank range. What do you care if the bullet drops 0.065 inches? not going to make much of a difference to the target, eh?

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:49:15 AM EDT

[#21]

Tumbling ain't that special.

Now if it tumbled around inside your body like a pinball, that might be something

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edited to add: Is today Groundhog day?

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:51:31 AM EDT

[#22]

you must have been using the training ammo. As the real ammo costs upwards of a buck each, they are AP I believe too.

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:52:20 AM EDT

[#23]

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It shot so flat and no recoil.... at 25 yds I chewed the face out of the target.

Sounds like a .22LR...

Yes it will be my next Off Duty gun.... .

WHY???

AGNTSA

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:53:27 AM EDT

[#24]

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Not a .45

Try hitting a pepper popper at theat distance

Sounds like you need training. Stop trying to buy gadgets to make up for inadequate skills.

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:55:40 AM EDT

[#25]

What's the differance between the Gov't and Civilian model?

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:55:43 AM EDT

[#26]

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Tumbling ain't that special.

Now if it tumbled around inside your body like a pinball, that might be something.

edited to add: Is today Groundhog day?

it does tumble in your body, isn't that something.

J

Posted: 8/27/2004 11:59:11 AM EDT

[#27]

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Tumbling ain't that special.

Now if it tumbled around inside your body like a pinball, that might be something.

edited to add: Is today Groundhog day?

it does tumble in your body, isn't that something.

J

Well yes, a little better than going straight through.

Posted: 8/27/2004 12:00:20 PM EDT

[#28]

I didn't like it.

Slide drop is tight as hell and hard to access.

Posted: 8/27/2004 12:07:00 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
Tumbling ain't that special.

Now if it tumbled around inside your body like a pinball, that might be something.

edited to add: Is today Groundhog day?

That's what a .22 does inside your head when you get shot! I can't fathom how the people that tell me that believe that crap.

Posted: 8/27/2004 12:11:37 PM EDT

[#30]

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I didn't like it.

Slide drop is tight as hell and hard to access.

You USE the slide drop, why, just do it like the Michigan State Police and reach over top and pull back on the slide and let it go. That works for ALL semi-auto and won't ware out your slide stop.

Posted: 8/27/2004 12:12:49 PM EDT

[#31]

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Ammo was $7 for 50, supoposed to be like a 5.56, tumbles inside,If I carry it for 6 monts I can take it off my taxes. Have to see how the mags go onthe 14th.

Please post a link to this source for 7$ boxes of 5.7x28 ammo, the best I can do is 17$/box, and I thought that was quite good...

Posted: 8/27/2004 12:18:07 PM EDT

[#32]

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Sounds like a .22LR...

Are you sure about that. IMO, I'd have thought that it would be loud as hell, kind of like 7.62 *25. Or, did you mean that the original poster was talking about it like it was a .22 LR instead of the 5.7 round?

Posted: 8/27/2004 1:07:53 PM EDT

[#33]

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I didn't like it.

Slide drop is tight as hell and hard to access.

You USE the slide drop, why, just do it like the Michigan State Police and reach over top and pull back on the slide and let it go. That works for ALL semi-auto and won't ware out your slide stop.

Too slow.

Posted: 8/27/2004 1:20:22 PM EDT

[#34]

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I didn't like it.

Slide drop is tight as hell and hard to access.

You USE the slide drop, why, just do it like the Michigan State Police and reach over top and pull back on the slide and let it go. That works for ALL semi-auto and won't ware out your slide stop.

Too slow.

TOO SLOW, have you tried it. All ya' do is after you seat the mag reach around and tug on the slide. You don't grab it like you would when you chamber a round, you grab it with your thumb back toward you. I wish I had a pic, I'll google it and see if I can post one. The neat thing is that it works for all semis, no need to learn where the slide stop is on each and every pistol.

Posted: 8/27/2004 1:23:51 PM EDT

[#35]

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you must have been using the training ammo. As the real ammo costs upwards of a buck each, they are AP I believe too.

Civies can't buy the AP ammo correct?

Jerad

Posted: 8/27/2004 1:31:08 PM EDT

[#36]

www.selfdefenseforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-781.html

Here's a link to another forum that talks about what I'm trying to say. You don't release the slide with the "sling shot" grip, you use an over hand grip, it's fast and easy to just reach up and over the slide after you seat the mag and pull it back a bit so it'll release. That way you won't ware out your slide stop and the technique will work with ALL semi autos, reguardless of type. This is just a very K.I.S.S. way of releasing the slide, that's why I like it.

Posted: 8/27/2004 1:36:58 PM EDT

[#37]

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I didn't like it.

Slide drop is tight as hell and hard to access.

You USE the slide drop, why, just do it like the Michigan State Police and reach over top and pull back on the slide and let it go. That works for ALL semi-auto and won't ware out your slide stop.

Too slow.

TOO SLOW, have you tried it. All ya' do is after you seat the mag reach around and tug on the slide. You don't grab it like you would when you chamber a round, you grab it with your thumb back toward you. I wish I had a pic, I'll google it and see if I can post one. The neat thing is that it works for all semis, no need to learn where the slide stop is on each and every pistol.

When a weapon has a proper slide release you can drop the slide while bringing it back to the target with your left hand already in it's proper grip.

Posted: 8/27/2004 1:55:26 PM EDT

[#38]

Ahh, but try that with a gun that has NO slide release or where the slide release is in a different spot. This technique works for all semi autos.

Posted: 8/27/2004 2:01:54 PM EDT

[#39]

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Well I was at a range yesterday and got to run 100 rounds through an FN 5.7..... SWEET!
It shot so flat and no recoil.... at 25 yds I chewed the face out of the target.
Yes it will be my next Off Duty gun.... hopefully... they will make at lest 15 round magazines for it come Sept. 14.

Everything shoots flat at 25 yards.

Not a .45

Try hitting a pepper popper at theat distance

OH BULLSHIT

+1

Posted: 8/27/2004 2:09:37 PM EDT

[#40]

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Ahh, but try that with a gun that has NO slide release or where the slide release is in a different spot. This technique works for all semi autos.

Or just use a decent firearm designed for practical shooting.

Posted: 8/27/2004 2:11:05 PM EDT

[#41]

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Well I was at a range yesterday and got to run 100 rounds through an FN 5.7..... SWEET!
It shot so flat and no recoil.... at 25 yds I chewed the face out of the target.
Yes it will be my next Off Duty gun.... hopefully... they will make at lest 15 round magazines for it come Sept. 14.

Everything shoots flat at 25 yards.

Not a .45

Try hitting a pepper popper at theat distance

OH BULLSHIT
+1

+2

I can hit a PP at 100m with a 9mm. I'm sure a .45 would do the same thing.

Posted: 8/27/2004 2:27:27 PM EDT

[#42]

I shoot .45 230grain hardball and hollowpoints through my Less Baer. The bullet hits right above my front sight out to 50 yards. When running the stress course shooting 6" plates at 50, or shooting the mover at 50, I didn't have to aim up at all. Even shooting the gong at 100 yards was not a problem, though it was 12" instead of 6.

I thought I would, but I just ended up shooting over the top of the target. Putting it right in COM yielded good COM hits when I did my part.

I have fired my .45 auto out to probably 125 yards, and even at that distance I didn't need much hold-over to get the job done. All I needed to do was aim slightly higher than COM for a good hit.

If you can't hit poppers at 25 with a normal sight picture, then your sights are way off.

Frankly, I would much rather have a 230 grain bullet smashing stuff from point blank out to 100 yards if we are talking about handguns. Even at that distance the round has enough energy to at least get their attention.

Posted: 8/27/2004 9:19:13 PM EDT

[#43]

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Not a .45

Try hitting a pepper popper at theat distance

Sounds like you need training. Stop trying to buy gadgets to make up for inadequate skills.

Do you even know what a pepper popper is? Besides I didn't buy them, they where on the IPSC course

Posted: 8/27/2004 9:22:05 PM EDT

[#44]

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Funny GC, Ive shot a hell of a lot of .45 and I dont have to hold any differently at 25yds. You're lucky if the drop is 2" at that range.

Hmm now that I think about it..... I was using our special reloads that were powered down a little for IPSC.

Oh well

Posted: 8/27/2004 9:53:55 PM EDT

[#45]

I would like to get one to screw around with, and shoot coyotes with.

Posted: 8/28/2004 5:54:35 AM EDT

[#46]

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Ammo was $7 for 50, supoposed to be like a 5.56, tumbles inside,If I carry it for 6 monts I can take it off my taxes. Have to see how the mags go onthe 14th.

I believe we are all waiting to hear where the ammo is $7.00 a 50.

Posted: 8/28/2004 6:06:59 AM EDT

[#47]

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Ammo was $7 for 50, supoposed to be like a 5.56, tumbles inside,If I carry it for 6 monts I can take it off my taxes. Have to see how the mags go onthe 14th.

I believe we are all waiting to hear where the ammo is $7.00 a 50.

Yes indeed.

Posted: 8/28/2004 6:31:50 AM EDT

[#48]

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I didn't like it.

Slide drop is tight as hell and hard to access.

You USE the slide drop, why, just do it like the Michigan State Police and reach over top and pull back on the slide and let it go. That works for ALL semi-auto and won't ware out your slide stop.

Too slow.

TOO SLOW, have you tried it. All ya' do is after you seat the mag reach around and tug on the slide. You don't grab it like you would when you chamber a round, you grab it with your thumb back toward you. I wish I had a pic, I'll google it and see if I can post one. The neat thing is that it works for all semis, no need to learn where the slide stop is on each and every pistol.

When a weapon has a proper slide release you can drop the slide while bringing it back to the target with your left hand already in it's proper grip.

Eggzactly. Buy a weapon with a proper slide release, then it won't be a problem

Posted: 8/28/2004 11:14:41 AM EDT

[#49]

I do have a cute smile, maybe I got the cute old guy discount. I was at a range off exit 20 on 295 in NJ. Have to go to the store to get it, no internet sales. I think it is Eagle Eye or something. Thjey do lots of LEO business, 25 YD Indooor Range, and lotsof evil black guns. They handle departmental and retired qualifications.
As for off duty... the operative word is taxes. If I buy it work related...it is a deduction, I have seen guys get a $ 4000 total deduction off their IRS.
I use a Glock to qualify with and my ParaOrdance to carry.....
As for the 57, it was designed as a PDW for the military, it was first in the P90, then a department sales only of the 57 pistol. They have released a 57 for sale to individual LEOs, but onmly with a 10 round magazine.
As for slide release present training is to use the hand over pull back..... the reason is a more positive release, especially in stress situations.

Posted: 8/28/2004 2:36:37 PM EDT

[#50]

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I do have a cute smile, maybe I got the cute old guy discount. I was at a range off exit 20 on 295 in NJ. Have to go to the store to get it, no internet sales. I think it is Eagle Eye or something. Thjey do lots of LEO business, 25 YD Indooor Range, and lotsof evil black guns. They handle departmental and retired qualifications.
As for off duty... the operative word is taxes. If I buy it work related...it is a deduction, I have seen guys get a $ 4000 total deduction off their IRS.
I use a Glock to qualify with and my ParaOrdance to carry.....
As for the 57, it was designed as a PDW for the military, it was first in the P90, then a department sales only of the 57 pistol. They have released a 57 for sale to individual LEOs, but onmly with a 10 round magazine.
As for slide release present training is to use the hand over pull back..... the reason is a more positive release, especially in stress situations.

So that's the "proper" name for it. All I know is that I like that technique because it works with each and every semi no matter where the slide release is located and it doesn't ware on the release. Once you practice it a bit it's every bit as fast as using the slide release too.

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