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Posted: 6/6/2002 9:58:38 AM EDT
Here's a link:

I have shot at the area mentioned, Wolf's Grill and the Cherry Creek area nearby, and I can't say for sure if the report of shooters causing this fire is true but I know that irresponsible shooting at trash (which is a popular activity among idiots) is asking for trouble during fire season. Here's a question to consider: Are these "shooters" vandals or people trying to have a good time?
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 10:04:41 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 10:19:58 AM EDT
Oops, I forgot about that. (darn bastards!)


Bracing for strong winds and high temperatures through the weekend, firefighters will use bulldozers today to cut firebreaks through protected wilderness to slow a 10,644-acre wildfire north of Ojai before it can threaten the Sespe Condor Sanctuary.

Using bulldozers to carve a six- to-10-mile fire line at the southern end of the Sespe Wilderness in the Los Padres National Forest signals a more aggressive strategy as firefighters struggle to control a fire that some fear could burn for weeks.

Heavy machinery is usually prohibited by federal restrictions protecting sensitive wildlife habitat. "We're still trying to set up some kind of perimeter to somehow stop this thing," said state Firefighter Bill Rodat, one of 1,600 firefighters called up from across the country to battle the fire.

By nightfall, the blaze was 15% contained. One firefighter was treated for dehydration.

The cause of the 5-day-old Wolf fire, which has already cost state and county agencies more than $3.5 million, has not been determined.

But sources familiar with the investigation said Wednesday that people shooting weapons near the Wolf Grill off California 33, about 12 miles from Ojai, may have sparked the blaze.

Several members of a bicycling tour group said they saw people shooting at an abandoned car in the area shortly before the fire started Saturday afternoon. Merrick Cohn, 32, of Camarillo said he heard shots and then saw smoke coming from the area near the restaurant.

"I kept seeing [fire investigators] say they didn't know why it started, and I knew why it started," Cohn said. "I figured everyone did."...
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 10:23:02 AM EDT

Meanwhile, triple-digit temperatures, dry conditions and 22 mph wind gusts fed a wildfire that threatened ranch homes in Saugus in Los Angeles County on Wednesday.

But fire officials said brush-clearance efforts spared most of those residences from damage. One house was reported destroyed.

The blaze was reported at 2:40 p.m. near the 23100 block of Piute Court and has burned through 3,500 acres of brush.

More than 300 firefighters with the U.S. Forest Service and Los Angeles County Fire Department initially clustered around 10 houses in the San Francisquito Canyon region, fighting the blaze with the aid of four water-dropping helicopters and two fixed-wing air tankers.

Two days after a brush fire burned 125 acres in Angeles National Forest in Susana Canyon north of Azusa, spots of the singed land began burning again Wednesday afternoon, said Kathy Peterson, spokeswoman for the Forest Service. Fire crews who were already monitoring the scene kept the fire from spreading further, Peterson said.

Also, Peterson said, about three to five acres near the Pyramid Reservoir in Angeles National Forest burned Wednesday afternoon. And in the San Bernardino National Forest, two big blazes were under control, with one 90% contained and the other nearly completely controlled.

The Arrowhead fire, which officials believe could have been started by firefighters on a training exercise, consumed 2,688 acres and destroyed four storage buildings, a trailer, bathhouse and a commercial building. The blaze, which so far has cost $2.4 million to fight and could reach $4 million, was 90% contained Wednesday night, said Ruth Wenstrom of the U.S. Forest Service.

To the south, the Bee fire near Hemet was contained Monday and was expected to be completely controlled by 6 p.m., Wenstrom said. It burned 432 acres.

In Ventura County, tanker planes and helicopters continued their air assault on the region's largest fire, which cast a yellow and orange cloud over much of the area while raining ashes.

Although the condor sanctuary remains roughly 20 miles from the blaze, officials said that could quickly change if winds shift to the southeast. That is the main reason for using the bulldozers to cut a fire line through the Sespe Wilderness, they said.

"The primary reason is to keep the fire out of the condor sanctuary," said Aaron Gelopter, a member of an elite firefighting team that took over directing fire coverage Wednesday.

From his post in a remote section of Rose Valley, 1 1/2 miles south of the fire's head, state firefighter Rodat spent the day Wednesday directing a small squadron of Bell 250 helicopters as they swooped low to scoop water from a pond before heading back.

"It's totally inaccessible up there," Rodat said.

A winding section of California 33 between Wheeler Springs on the south and Lockwood Valley Road on the north will remain closed at least until Monday, officials said. Residents of the Howard Creek area about a mile from the wildfire stayed close to their homes Wednesday...

Link Posted: 6/6/2002 10:25:03 AM EDT

...A day after the Wolf fire scorched the 7,000-foot Pine Mountain Ridge, it continued on an eastern path with an expanding front line that had stretched to at least four football fields wide.

Fueled by miles of pine trees and thick chaparral brush left bone dry by last winter's lack of rain, flames in some spots leaped more than 100 feet in the air, firefighters said.

"We are in an extreme condition," said Dennis Burns, a captain with the Livermore-Pleasanton Fire Department near Oakland, who has been assigned to track the fire's path. "We normally don't see these conditions until September. This is going to be a long duration fire."

Weather officials are predicting a return today of dry westerly winds--ranging from 20 mph or more--through at least Saturday.

Temperatures are also expected to remain in the mid-90s, possibility dipping over the weekend.

Similar type winds and conditions gave the fire its initial push along both sides of California 33 and helped feed the flames that destroyed several abandoned cabins used for Native American religious ceremonies on a private ranch.

Burns and others monitoring the fire's progress said if the forecast winds arrive, they will again force the fire to the east in the path of heavy brush that has not burned since the Matilija fire in 1932 charred nearly 220,000 acres.

"The wind has given us a reprieve but this is going to require an extended and focused attack on the fire," said Darren Drake, a spokesman for the U.S Forest Service.

Times staff writers Andrew Blankstein, Carol Chambers and Jessica Garrison contributed to this report.

Link Posted: 6/6/2002 8:12:21 PM EDT
Good thing tracers are banned in KA.[rolleyes]
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 8:19:52 PM EDT
when are they going to ban practice fires that get outa hand..

yeah I know it training ,, but  if you screw up once why do they let you hold another traing class..

oh yeah im talking about the controlled fires that have gotten out of control  latly
Link Posted: 6/7/2002 8:47:47 AM EDT
As it turned out it was the welding sparks from a nearby construction site that caused the fire.  LA Times just wants to be the first to point out that guns now cause forest fire, whether or not it's true.
Link Posted: 6/7/2002 9:45:41 AM EDT

Where did you see this?
Link Posted: 6/7/2002 10:07:11 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/7/2002 10:13:55 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/7/2002 10:50:05 AM EDT
This story must be bogus. Sara Brady doesn't ride bicycles.
Link Posted: 6/7/2002 2:28:34 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/7/2002 3:37:51 PM EDT
Herion "shooters" should have their pens/wordprocessors taken away.  
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