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Posted: 4/19/2016 2:51:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/19/2016 2:54:23 PM EDT by orpheus762x51]
So we are hitting a rough patch and might have some layoffs in the next 60 days or so. Nothing is certain, as it too soon to tell and there are too many variables.

We had a meeting with the whole team (40+ people), the boss gets done telling us what's in the pipe line and then asks if there are any questions. One of the new girls pipes up asking if they are going to keep on the people recently hired for temp work. Boss has a perplexed look on his face, explains that it would be contingent on what work looks like after June. The meeting ends, everyone is a little concerned, but it is what it is.

Later, new girl is found by another employee crying in the break room. One of the people on my team pull her outside with us to ask what's wrong. She's sobbing that she just got this job, she can barely afford to pay for her new apartment, can't find other work, and has a kid to take care of.

Now I know from earlier interactions with her that she's a divorced mom ("single mom" for you progressives). According to her, she left her husband for a few weeks, came back to him, got knocked up and now they have a kid... ...but they are now divorced because (again, according to her) he's a "piece of shit". No specifics were ever provided.

She knows that she was hired on a temporary status. She knew when her end date was when she got hired. She is in her current life arrangement 100% due to her own poor choices.

Here's the question:

Do I lack empathy because I feel no real sympathy for the situation she's in?

She got knocked up by some asshole, they split up, and now she's sad because she can't make ends meet supporting a kid and without hubby around.

The only valuable thing I took from the whole exchange is that the family unit is still the most stable domestic and financial arrangement for having children.


Oh, and btw, she has neon colored hair and does roller derby.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 2:54:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:
So we are hitting a rough patch and might have some layoffs in the next 60 days or so. Nothing is certain, as it too soon to tell and there are too many variables.

We had a meeting with the whole team (40+ people), the boss gets done telling us what's in the pipe line and then asks if there are any questions. One of the new girls pipes up asking if they are going to keep on the people recently hired for temp work. Boss has a perplexed look on his face, explains that it would be contingent on what work looks like after June. The meeting ends, everyone is a little concerned, but it is what it is.

Later, new girl is found by another employee crying in the break room. One of the people on my team pull her outside with us to ask what's wrong. She's sobbing that she just got this job, she can barely afford to pay for her new apartment, can't find other work, and has a kid to take care of.

Now I know from earlier interactions with her that she's a divorced mom ("single mom" for you progressives). According to her, she left her husband for a few weeks, came back to him, got knocked up and now they have a kid... ...but they are now divorced because (again, according to her) he's a "piece of shit". No specifics were ever provided.

She knows that she was hired on a temporary status. She knew when her end date was when she got hired. She is in her current life arrangement 100% due to her own poor choices.

Here's the question:

Do I lack empathy because I feel no real sympathy for the situation she's in?

She got knocked up by some asshole, they split up, and now she's sad because she can't make ends meet supporting a kid and without hubby around.

The only valuable thing I took from the whole exchange is that the family unit is still the most stable domestic and financial arrangement for having children.


Oh, and btw, she has neon colored hair and does roller derby.
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Nope.
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Some of my female coworkers would disagree.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 2:55:05 PM EDT
If one gives a fuck about everything you'll soon run out of fucks to give.


Link Posted: 4/19/2016 2:55:55 PM EDT
you should move in with her and solve all her problems.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 2:58:14 PM EDT
There WILL be layoffs. . .the meeting was the announcement. . . get a clue----fast. . .
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 2:58:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/19/2016 2:58:48 PM EDT by VooDoo3dfx]
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Originally Posted By OverScoped:
you should move in with her and solve all her problems.
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Snicker.

What could do wrong?







Post a thread about it and update as the drama excitement unfolds.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 2:59:25 PM EDT
blah blah blah stupid games, something something stupid prizes.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:00:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By clutchsmoke:
If one gives a fuck about everything you'll soon run out of fucks to give.



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Originally Posted By clutchsmoke:
If one gives a fuck about everything you'll soon run out of fucks to give.







I think I'm already there.




Originally Posted By OverScoped:
you should move in with her and solve all her problems.



Yeah...... No.


Originally Posted By FudgieGhost1:
There WILL be layoffs. . .the meeting was the announcement. . . get a clue----fast. . .



My contingencies are already in place.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:01:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:

Oh, and btw, she has neon colored hair and does roller derby.
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pics?

or team and player name ?
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:01:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/19/2016 3:03:45 PM EDT by WhyTanFox]
Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:
Do I lack empathy because I feel no real sympathy for the situation she's in?
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::shrug::

I feel sorry for 'tards but don't dwell on it.


ETA A sad puppy / Sarah Mclachlan commercial may twinge the feels but I ain't gonna run out and adopt a pound full of puppies.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:01:54 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:02:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/19/2016 5:03:01 PM EDT by Scott_In_OKC]
ZFG, temp work is just that, TEMPORARY. And honestly, the sooner you make peace with the fact that "permanent work" isn't, the better off you'll be in life.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:02:57 PM EDT
Send her a link to sugardaddy.com
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:03:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/19/2016 3:03:33 PM EDT by Subnet]
She's more fortunate than most - she got a heads up.

But (shitty life choices or not), it can be extremely stressful. So I get it.

Time for her to start looking, though.
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Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
pics?

or team and player name ?
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Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:

Oh, and btw, she has neon colored hair and does roller derby.
pics?

or team and player name ?



Not sure, but she's in the north east FL region if that narrows your search

Apparently she crossed paths with my ex a while before being hired by us. The ex did roller derby after we split. Birds bitches of a feather, I guess.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:03:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

They are idiots. That's why they get paid less.
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:
Originally Posted By Pudwak:


Nope.



Some of my female coworkers would disagree.

They are idiots. That's why they get paid less.


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Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
pics?

or team and player name ?
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Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:

Oh, and btw, she has neon colored hair and does roller derby.
pics?

or team and player name ?

You like fat girls that much?
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:04:37 PM EDT
Tell her to get into the fast food game..I hear they will be getting 15/hr soon
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:04:43 PM EDT
No you don't lack empathy, you are just viewing the situation objectively based on facts, but you know entirely too much about her personal life and should probably back the fuck away unless you're looking to date an emotionally unstable single mom.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:05:24 PM EDT
I give her credit for trying.
Would you prefer she just be FSA? Then you could complain about supporting her and her kids.
And, it seems she cares enough about a job to be upset at losing it.
Seems like she's in a no win situation with some folks here.
I wish her well.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:05:50 PM EDT
Man, you know WAY more about your co-workers' personal lives than I know about my co-workers' personal lives. My way is better.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:06:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:



Some of my female coworkers would disagree.
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Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:
Originally Posted By Pudwak:


Nope.



Some of my female coworkers would disagree.

they need their butts peed in


You are thinking like I would



Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:06:23 PM EDT
Not her whole story.

Even that job won't fix her.

Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:06:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FudgieGhost1:
There WILL be layoffs. . .the meeting was the announcement. . . get a clue----fast. . .
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Yep... Been through 33 rounds at my employer over 16 yrs... Kinda like old hat now a days. But yeah, Gita keep those shareholders happy - even if it means the little man gets the shaft.
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

They are idiots. That's why they get paid less.
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:
Originally Posted By Pudwak:


Nope.



Some of my female coworkers would disagree.

They are idiots. That's why they get paid less.



Lulz...


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Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:07:01 PM EDT
In my mind, empathy and sympathy are two separate things.


Empathy means you can feel what they feel. You don't have to give a fuck.

Sympathy means you actually give a fuck about how they feel.

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Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:07:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:



Some of my female coworkers would disagree.
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Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:
Originally Posted By Pudwak:


Nope.



Some of my female coworkers would disagree.

B/c they're not thinking logically.

Girl took "temp" job. There's a key word that prefaces the word "job" that should be a clue to the kind of job it is. During said employment, either herself or her agency should be looking for something that lacks that keyword. Depending on a temp to become perm is not a good strategy.

Sounds like she has a lot of time to work this out...
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:07:40 PM EDT
Well, I'll give her credit for not being a welfare leech, as it seems she's worried about losing her job and source of income. Granted, she's made some bad choices in her life, but at least she's trying to earn a living, temporary work notwithstanding, rather than being on the dole.
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Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:08:29 PM EDT
Roller Derby?
Is it becoming popular again?
I forgot all about it in the mid 1970's.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:09:19 PM EDT
first of all, not all roller derby chicks are bad. alot of them are nice, hard working women.

second of all. its her own damn fault for not getting herself set up for a kid. dont change a thing you are doind. except maybe avoid her more.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:09:20 PM EDT
Not for her
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Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:09:36 PM EDT
Im not gonna do what everyone thinks Im gonna do and FLIP OUT!
Now who is coming with me?
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:09:42 PM EDT
Why arent more women using IUDs?
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:09:43 PM EDT
Every job is a temp job, and layoffs are always right around the corner. Plan accordingly.

This is a lesson better learned before you're a single parent.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:09:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mancat:
No you don't lack empathy, you are just viewing the situation objectively based on facts, but you know entirely too much about her personal life and should probably back the fuck away unless you're looking to date an emotionally unstable single mom.
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I'd venture to guess that she's sharing so much with me because she needs a sounding board, I'm getting married soon and have been vocal about it in recent weeks, so she maybe she views me as "safe". I'm not the only one she talks about her personal stuff to.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:09:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:
She got knocked up by some asshole, they split up, and now she's sad because she can't make ends meet supporting a kid and without hubby around.
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Erections have consequences...
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:09:56 PM EDT
Yes, it would seem you lack empathy as you have no sympathy that she may very well lose her job. That isnt necessarily a bad thing mind you.

I can certainly understand her worry, and I've seen more than 1 person in tears because they have lost their job. No so much temp workers, I mean with temp work its a given, but losing your job is fucking hard on anyone.
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Originally Posted By biggus_arcticus:
I give her credit for trying.
Would you prefer she just be FSA? Then you could complain about supporting her and her kids.
And, it seems she cares enough about a job to be upset at losing it.
Seems like she's in a no win situation with some folks here.
I wish her well.
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Not so fast, she has bragged a couple times about how she's been able to free up some cash by qualifying for WIC and medicaid, so there's that.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:11:28 PM EDT
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To some degree yes.

A little empathy is appropriate.

We have all made mistakes. Sometimes those mistakes come back to bite us in the ass. Sometimes the bite is relatively small, sometimes its a big one. Sometimes we get lucky, however, and there is no consequence.

Sounds like, she is trying to remedy one of her mistakes and is doing so by working to support herself and her child. At least she's not on the .gov dime. That's one positive.

So if she is not an absolute train wreck going from one mistake to the other and never learning....that may be a different story.

But I know it SOP to for Arf to say, "Fuck you and fuck off, you fucked up, you need to be fucking punished."

Guess I'm getting soft in my old age.





Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:11:37 PM EDT
You could console her in your office.


Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:12:19 PM EDT
Gonna tell you a story that you won't believe
But I fell in love last Friday evenin'
With a girl I saw on a barroom T.V. screen
Well I was just gettin' ready to get my hat
When she caught my eye and I put it back
And I ordered myself a couple o' more shots and beers

The night that
I fell in love with a Roller Derby Queen
Round and round, oh round and round
The meanest hunk o' woman that anybody ever seen
Down in the arena

She was five foot six and two fifteen
A bleached-blonde mama with a streak of mean
She knew how to knuckle and she knew how to scuffle and fight
And the roller derby program said
That she was built like a 'frigerator with a head
Her fans call her "Tuffy" but all her buddies called her "Spike"

Round and round, go round and round
Round and round, go round and round
Round and round

Well I could not help it but to fall in love
With this heavy-duty woman I been speakin' of
Things looked kind of bad until the day she skated into my life
Well she might be nasty, she might be fat
But I never met a person who could tell her that
She's my bleach-blonde bomber, my heavy handed Hackensack mama

Round and round, go round and round
Round and round, go round and round
Round and round
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:12:41 PM EDT
You see, in the real world, not Fagbook land, poor life decisions have real, actual consequences.

She needs to unfuck herself before her miserable existence is totally unrecoverable. Nobody can do it for her, she has to put her big girl pants on and do it. I'm only 31(wife{pics already posted}, kids, mortgage, two F/T jobs), its fucking sad I have to treat grown ass folks like they're fucking 8.

Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:13:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By biggus_arcticus:
I give her credit for trying.
Would you prefer she just be FSA? Then you could complain about supporting her and her kids.
And, it seems she cares enough about a job to be upset at losing it.
Seems like she's in a no win situation with some folks here.
I wish her well.
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Pretty much this. Nice to see someone who could easily be FSA actually try and give a shit.
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Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:



Not so fast, she has bragged a couple times about how she's been able to free up some cash by qualifying for WIC and medicaid, so there's that.
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Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:
Originally Posted By biggus_arcticus:
I give her credit for trying.
Would you prefer she just be FSA? Then you could complain about supporting her and her kids.
And, it seems she cares enough about a job to be upset at losing it.
Seems like she's in a no win situation with some folks here.
I wish her well.



Not so fast, she has bragged a couple times about how she's been able to free up some cash by qualifying for WIC and medicaid, so there's that.


It's a little late to be adding that information, don't you think?
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Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:



I'd venture to guess that she's sharing so much with me because she needs a sounding board, I'm getting married soon and have been vocal about it in recent weeks, so she maybe she views me as "safe". I'm not the only one she talks about her personal stuff to.
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Originally Posted By mancat:
No you don't lack empathy, you are just viewing the situation objectively based on facts, but you know entirely too much about her personal life and should probably back the fuck away unless you're looking to date an emotionally unstable single mom.



I'd venture to guess that she's sharing so much with me because she needs a sounding board, I'm getting married soon and have been vocal about it in recent weeks, so she maybe she views me as "safe". I'm not the only one she talks about her personal stuff to.


It costs nothing to lend a sympathetic ear. If you give her good advice on finding another job and it helps her, you both gain.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:14:26 PM EDT
You know, sometimes life just happens and it is beyond our control to have any say so in the outcome.

Until you've walked in someone else's shoes it's really easy to be on the high road looking down.

Ask me how I know.
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
She's more fortunate than most - she got a heads up.

But (shitty life choices or not), it can be extremely stressful. So I get it.

Time for her to start looking, though.
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Agreed. And it appears that she's trying to work her way out of it rather than relying on handouts. I remember not knowing if I'd still have a job next week, it was stressful as hell. I'd certainly be sympathetic of somebody going through the same thing, doesn't mean I'd start trying to support her or somehow make her problems my problems.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:15:22 PM EDT
the worst thing I ever had to face - I was involved in some layoffs and was one of the people letting folks know they were being let go. One woman, who I liked as a co-worker, committed suicide that night after being let go. I felt like shit for a year.
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