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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:25:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:27:15 PM EDT
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ooohhh.... bad shoot..
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:27:35 PM EDT
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Stupid fucking cop.
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:28:43 PM EDT
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Stupid fucking cop. I know cops have a really tough job but that was complete bullshit thats typical seattle wa metro pd. lakewood pd is the worst |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:31:31 PM EDT
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After the shooting the knife was found in the closed position.
And I worked for years in Lakewood. My brother lives there. LPD is a good outfit. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:34:01 PM EDT
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What the fuck?
When your policy is "Shoot first and ask questions later" could you at least be cool and ask some fucking questions later? |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:34:14 PM EDT
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After the shooting the knife was found in the closed position. And I worked for years in Lakewood. My brother lives there. LPD is a good outfit. so macing and stomping the shit out of a cooperitive suspect is a good thing ?
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:36:04 PM EDT
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Stupid fucking cop. I know cops have a really tough job but that was complete bullshit thats typical seattle wa metro pd. lakewood pd is the worst What the fuck do you base that off? I have had a lot of interaction with Lakewood PD. Nothing but professionals. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:36:09 PM EDT
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What's the story behind this? Pocket knife or fixed blade? Open or closed if pocket knife? Did he turn towards the LEO with it? Witnesses? Can't tell shit with that video...
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:36:55 PM EDT
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in before the TBL says good shoot. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:36:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:37:03 PM EDT
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The response time for his backup was good.
The vid doesn't show the actual shooting, so I'm reserving judgement. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:38:01 PM EDT
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What's the story behind this? Pocket knife or fixed blade? Open or closed if pocket knife? Did he turn towards the LEO with it? Witnesses? Can't tell shit with that video... Can you tell how long it takes to go from "Hey!" to "Bangbangbangbangbang" from that video? I can. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:38:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:39:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:40:11 PM EDT
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Stupid fucking cop. I know cops have a really tough job but that was complete bullshit thats typical seattle wa metro pd. lakewood pd is the worst What the fuck do you base that off? I have had a lot of interaction with Lakewood PD. Nothing but professionals. off of running the streets in that area and seeing shit first hand ETA and having one of them spit in my face and telling me to run or they were gonna whip my ass after stomping the fuck out of my friend that never resisted. or how about when someone was about to get shot told the cop and he said thats your problem and drove off and 2 minutes later said person was shot dead as a door nail 
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:41:06 PM EDT
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Im thinking the cop is fuxored! Dude was minding his own business carving on some wood. Probably making some sort of NW native art to sell. You see the native folk doing this down at the waterfront here in Seattle all the time.
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:41:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: What's the story behind this? Pocket knife or fixed blade? Open or closed if pocket knife? Did he turn towards the LEO with it? Witnesses? Can't tell shit with that video... Can you tell how long it takes to go from "Hey!" to "Bangbangbangbangbang" from that video? I can. Can you count how many times he was told to put the knife down before he fired? I can.... What that video doesn't tell me is whether the guy was turning towards the LEO or facing away. Was the knife open or closed? Was he turning in a threatening manner or not? Etc. The tape, absent witness statements, autopsy reports, etc. doesn't show shit.. That said, the guy had a legal knife and autopsy says he wasn't facing the LEO when shot. Doesn't sound like a good shoot to me but I base it not on the tape, but the totality of the information available.. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:43:56 PM EDT
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Stupid fucking cop. I know cops have a really tough job but that was complete bullshit thats typical seattle wa metro pd. lakewood pd is the worst What the fuck do you base that off? I have had a lot of interaction with Lakewood PD. Nothing but professionals. off of running the streets in that area and seeing shit first hand Running the streets? You did a lot of jogging? You were in charge of road maintenance? Worked for the DOT? Stop pussy footing around, they gave you a ticket and made you angry? |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:44:03 PM EDT
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The response time for his backup was good. The vid doesn't show the actual shooting, so I'm reserving judgement. His own thin blue line ruled it a bad shoot, along with an autopsy showing he was shot at angles consistent with him NOT facing the officer. How much more info do you need? |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:44:24 PM EDT
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What's the story behind this? Pocket knife or fixed blade? Open or closed if pocket knife? Did he turn towards the LEO with it? Witnesses? Can't tell shit with that video... Can you tell how long it takes to go from "Hey!" to "Bangbangbangbangbang" from that video? I can. Can you count how many times he was told to put the knife down before he fired? I can.... If you want to hold the line on this deal that's on you. After two videos the only thing I can find that the Seattle cop did correctly was not saying anything about "beating the Mexican piss out of you" before dealing out the out-of-line punishment. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:44:27 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What's the story behind this? Pocket knife or fixed blade? Open or closed if pocket knife? Did he turn towards the LEO with it? Witnesses? Can't tell shit with that video... Can you tell how long it takes to go from "Hey!" to "Bangbangbangbangbang" from that video? I can. Can you count how many times he was told to put the knife down before he fired? I can.... You know that the dead guy was deaf in one ear and was wearing headphones? |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:45:57 PM EDT
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Stupid fucking cop. I know cops have a really tough job but that was complete bullshit thats typical seattle wa metro pd. lakewood pd is the worst What the fuck do you base that off? I have had a lot of interaction with Lakewood PD. Nothing but professionals. off of running the streets in that area and seeing shit first hand ETA and having one of them spit in my face and telling me to run or they were gonna whip my ass after stomping the fuck out of my friend that never resisted. or how about when someone was about to get shot told the cop and he said thats your problem and drove off and 2 minutes later said person was shot dead as a door nail Ahh, so it wasn't from a professional stand point that you passed your judgment. Here is my surprised face. And I am sure that none of these little anecdotes were at all embellished to make your side of the argument any more persuasive. Have a nice night. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:46:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What's the story behind this? Pocket knife or fixed blade? Open or closed if pocket knife? Did he turn towards the LEO with it? Witnesses? Can't tell shit with that video... Can you tell how long it takes to go from "Hey!" to "Bangbangbangbangbang" from that video? I can. Can you count how many times he was told to put the knife down before he fired? I can.... You know that the dead guy was deaf in one ear and was wearing headphones? Those are only relevant AFTER the fact. The LEO had no way of knowing he was deaf and the hair (from what I can tell in the video) covered both his ears making it damn near impossible to tell if he had earbuds on... Had he known those facts BEFOREHAND, then they would be relevant. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:47:01 PM EDT
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Stupid fucking cop. I know cops have a really tough job but that was complete bullshit thats typical seattle wa metro pd. lakewood pd is the worst What the fuck do you base that off? I have had a lot of interaction with Lakewood PD. Nothing but professionals. off of running the streets in that area and seeing shit first hand ETA and having one of them spit in my face and telling me to run or they were gonna whip my ass after stomping the fuck out of my friend that never resisted. or how about when someone was about to get shot told the cop and he said thats your problem and drove off and 2 minutes later said person was shot dead as a door nail Ahh, so it wasn't from a professional stand point that you passed your judgment. Here is my surprised face. And I am sure that none of these little anecdotes were at all embellished to make your side of the argument any more persuasive. Have a nice night. yup all cops made it home safe good shoot 
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:49:26 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Stupid fucking cop. I know cops have a really tough job but that was complete bullshit thats typical seattle wa metro pd. lakewood pd is the worst What the fuck do you base that off? I have had a lot of interaction with Lakewood PD. Nothing but professionals. off of running the streets in that area and seeing shit first hand ETA and having one of them spit in my face and telling me to run or they were gonna whip my ass after stomping the fuck out of my friend that never resisted. or how about when someone was about to get shot told the cop and he said thats your problem and drove off and 2 minutes later said person was shot dead as a door nail Riiiiiight. I'm gonna have to throw it on this one.  |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:51:02 PM EDT
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Geez, someone wanted to get their gun on... |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:51:24 PM EDT
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Community leaders added that Williams was partially deaf and would not have heard the officer's commands. They also say that Williams was sitting down when the officer approached.
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:51:31 PM EDT
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Stupid fucking cop. I know cops have a really tough job but that was complete bullshit thats typical seattle wa metro pd. lakewood pd is the worst What the fuck do you base that off? I have had a lot of interaction with Lakewood PD. Nothing but professionals. off of running the streets in that area and seeing shit first hand ETA and having one of them spit in my face and telling me to run or they were gonna whip my ass after stomping the fuck out of my friend that never resisted. or how about when someone was about to get shot told the cop and he said thats your problem and drove off and 2 minutes later said person was shot dead as a door nail Riiiiiight. I'm gonna have to throw it on this one.
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:51:37 PM EDT
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Stupid fucking cop. I know cops have a really tough job but that was complete bullshit thats typical seattle wa metro pd. lakewood pd is the worst What the fuck do you base that off? I have had a lot of interaction with Lakewood PD. Nothing but professionals. off of running the streets in that area and seeing shit first hand ETA and having one of them spit in my face and telling me to run or they were gonna whip my ass after stomping the fuck out of my friend that never resisted. or how about when someone was about to get shot told the cop and he said thats your problem and drove off and 2 minutes later said person was shot dead as a door nail Feel free to provide so much as a nanosmidgen of documented/reported/linked information to support one iota of what you've posted here. Aside from the "running the streets" part - I'll take you at your word on that. And no, I'm in no way offering support for what is fairly obviously a bad shoot. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:53:39 PM EDT
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In on _____.
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:54:28 PM EDT
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Feel free to provide so much as a nanosmidgen of documented/reported/linked information to support one iota of what you've posted here. Aside from the "running the streets" part - I'll take you at your word on that. And no, I'm in no way offering support for what is fairly obviously a bad shoot. there is of course no documentation. all i have to offer is what ive seen and experienced. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:54:28 PM EDT
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Video is for shit. The man was killed by a punk ass panty waist bitch with no ability other than opening fire. But that's OK because the Seattle Police are militarized and doing the job they were hired for.
When your only tool is a hammer, every problem becomes a nail. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:55:23 PM EDT
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What's the story behind this? Pocket knife or fixed blade? Open or closed if pocket knife? Did he turn towards the LEO with it? Witnesses? Can't tell shit with that video... No you can't tell anything, but the usual cop haters don't need to see any video to say it was a bad shoot. The ONLY thing the vid shows is a guy walking carrying something in his hand (Cant tell on video what it is but that doesn't mean you couldn't tell if you were there). The audio sounds like cop confronted the guy and guy refused to drop a knife. As for not facing officer when he was shot, its been proven time and time again that a person can turn around just before shots are fired, and doesn't mean the suspect wasn't a threat. Without witnesses and other video it would be impossible to determine if it was a good shoot or not, unless you were there. I would like to know if the cop was answering a call on the guy. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:56:18 PM EDT
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Feel free to provide so much as a nanosmidgen of documented/reported/linked information to support one iota of what you've posted here. Aside from the "running the streets" part - I'll take you at your word on that. And no, I'm in no way offering support for what is fairly obviously a bad shoot. there is of course no documentation. all i have to offer is what ive seen and experienced. A person was shot dead, and there's no documentation? You had personal knowledge of this event, and nobody else knows about it? Really? 
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:56:42 PM EDT
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all i got to say is...
what the fuck did the cop need to make contact with the guy for? was he a menace to the piece of wood with a folding pocket knife? what i see here, is a guy walking down the street doing his hobby, and a cop with nothing better to do, choosing to get involved in a non-crime, and costing someone his life. fuck THAT cop. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:56:46 PM EDT
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Stupid fucking cop. I know cops have a really tough job but that was complete bullshit thats typical seattle wa metro pd. lakewood pd is the worst What the fuck do you base that off? I have had a lot of interaction with Lakewood PD. Nothing but professionals. off of running the streets in that area and seeing shit first hand ETA and having one of them spit in my face and telling me to run or they were gonna whip my ass after stomping the fuck out of my friend that never resisted. or how about when someone was about to get shot told the cop and he said thats your problem and drove off and 2 minutes later said person was shot dead as a door nail Ahh, so it wasn't from a professional stand point that you passed your judgment. Here is my surprised face. And I am sure that none of these little anecdotes were at all embellished to make your side of the argument any more persuasive. Have a nice night. yup all cops made it home safe good shoot and a year ago..4 Lakewood cops didn't make it home safe. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:57:07 PM EDT
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Feel free to provide so much as a nanosmidgen of documented/reported/linked information to support one iota of what you've posted here. Aside from the "running the streets" part - I'll take you at your word on that. And no, I'm in no way offering support for what is fairly obviously a bad shoot. there is of course no documentation. all i have to offer is what ive seen and experienced. Yeah, lots of people get shot to death in this community without it making the news. 
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:58:00 PM EDT
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I'd say that girl walking across the street looking at the shooting will play a big role in any trials.
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:58:57 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: What's the story behind this? Pocket knife or fixed blade? Open or closed if pocket knife? Did he turn towards the LEO with it? Witnesses? Can't tell shit with that video... No you can't tell anything, but the usual cop haters don't need to see any video to say it was a bad shoot. The ONLY thing the vid shows is a guy walking carrying something in his hand (Cant tell on video what it is but that doesn't mean you couldn't tell if you were there). The audio sounds like cop confronted the guy and guy refused to drop a knife. As for not facing officer when he was shot, its been proven time and time again that a person can turn around just before shots are fired, and doesn't mean the suspect wasn't a threat. Without witnesses and other video it would be impossible to determine if it was a good shoot or not, unless you were there. I would like to know if the cop was answering a call on the guy. good one. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:58:58 PM EDT
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Stupid fucking cop. I know cops have a really tough job but that was complete bullshit I agree. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:59:39 PM EDT
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Stupid fucking cop. I know cops have a really tough job but that was complete bullshit thats typical seattle wa metro pd. lakewood pd is the worst What the fuck do you base that off? I have had a lot of interaction with Lakewood PD. Nothing but professionals. off of running the streets in that area and seeing shit first hand ETA and having one of them spit in my face and telling me to run or they were gonna whip my ass after stomping the fuck out of my friend that never resisted. or how about when someone was about to get shot told the cop and he said thats your problem and drove off and 2 minutes later said person was shot dead as a door nail Ahh, so it wasn't from a professional stand point that you passed your judgment. Here is my surprised face. And I am sure that none of these little anecdotes were at all embellished to make your side of the argument any more persuasive. Have a nice night. Ok if your not a "Professional" your opinion is worthless, I will try and remember that for the future. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:59:47 PM EDT
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I'd say that girl walking across the street looking at the shooting will play a big role in any trials. I agree. She was just strolling along minding her own business, imagine being there when that happened. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 6:59:53 PM EDT
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Feel free to provide so much as a nanosmidgen of documented/reported/linked information to support one iota of what you've posted here. Aside from the "running the streets" part - I'll take you at your word on that. And no, I'm in no way offering support for what is fairly obviously a bad shoot. there is of course no documentation. all i have to offer is what ive seen and experienced. Yeah, lots of people get shot to death in this community without it making the news. Just another secret homicide, whose elements may only be revealed from the sanctity and anonymity of an internet forum.
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Posted: 12/17/2010 7:01:30 PM EDT
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Very bad shoot.
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Posted: 12/17/2010 7:01:44 PM EDT
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Knife was CLOSED when recovered. A picture was given to the media of the knife locked open the next day. Witnesses apparently report the man was not walking towards the officer when he was shot and had only looked over his shoulder at the officer.
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Posted: 12/17/2010 7:01:57 PM EDT
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Feel free to provide so much as a nanosmidgen of documented/reported/linked information to support one iota of what you've posted here. Aside from the "running the streets" part - I'll take you at your word on that. And no, I'm in no way offering support for what is fairly obviously a bad shoot. there is of course no documentation. all i have to offer is what ive seen and experienced. A person was shot dead, and there's no documentation? You had personal knowledge of this event, and nobody else knows about it? Really? the part of him telling the officer was not documented i would guess. and there were so many damn shootings in this neighborhood they were not all newsworthy. also my search foo sucks. i cant even find the article i have a paper copy of when a good friend of mine was murdered. it is what it is. and with that we can go im instead of hijacking ops thread |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 7:02:18 PM EDT
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What's the story behind this? Pocket knife or fixed blade? Open or closed if pocket knife? Did he turn towards the LEO with it? Witnesses? Can't tell shit with that video... Can you tell how long it takes to go from "Hey!" to "Bangbangbangbangbang" from that video? I can. Can you count how many times he was told to put the knife down before he fired? I can.... You know that the dead guy was deaf in one ear and was wearing headphones? Those are only relevant AFTER the fact. The LEO had no way of knowing he was deaf and the hair (from what I can tell in the video) covered both his ears making it damn near impossible to tell if he had earbuds on... Had he known those facts BEFOREHAND, then they would be relevant. Regardless of it, if the guy was just whittling on a piece of wood while the officer was yapping, iit would still not justify the shooting. |
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Posted: 12/17/2010 7:02:41 PM EDT
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Stupid fucking cop. I know cops have a really tough job but that was complete bullshit thats typical seattle wa metro pd. lakewood pd is the worst What the fuck do you base that off? I have had a lot of interaction with Lakewood PD. Nothing but professionals. off of running the streets in that area and seeing shit first hand ETA and having one of them spit in my face and telling me to run or they were gonna whip my ass after stomping the fuck out of my friend that never resisted. or how about when someone was about to get shot told the cop and he said thats your problem and drove off and 2 minutes later said person was shot dead as a door nail Ahh, so it wasn't from a professional stand point that you passed your judgment. Here is my surprised face. And I am sure that none of these little anecdotes were at all embellished to make your side of the argument any more persuasive. Have a nice night. yup all cops made it home safe good shoot and a year ago..4 Lakewood cops didn't make it home safe. and your point is 
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Posted: 12/17/2010 7:03:55 PM EDT
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Stupid fucking cop. I know cops have a really tough job but that was complete bullshit thats typical seattle wa metro pd. lakewood pd is the worst What the fuck do you base that off? I have had a lot of interaction with Lakewood PD. Nothing but professionals. off of running the streets in that area and seeing shit first hand ETA and having one of them spit in my face and telling me to run or they were gonna whip my ass after stomping the fuck out of my friend that never resisted. or how about when someone was about to get shot told the cop and he said thats your problem and drove off and 2 minutes later said person was shot dead as a door nail Ahh, so it wasn't from a professional stand point that you passed your judgment. Here is my surprised face. And I am sure that none of these little anecdotes were at all embellished to make your side of the argument any more persuasive. Have a nice night. Ok if your not a "Professional" your opinion is worthless, I will try and remember that for the future. Yeah, which banned member are you? This guy admits he had altercations with the police, clearly not from a neutral stand point. So you get a story from someone who has a conflict of interest. On the internet. I take things at face value. |
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