

Posted: 8/23/2017 1:06:29 PM EST
http://libertyparkpress.com/seattle-council-candidate-grant-wants-double-gun-violence-tax/
One of the candidates running to fill the Seattle City Council seat being vacated by Tim Burgess, who pushed through the city’s “gun violence tax,” is proposing to double that tax to raise revenue not realized during the first year it was assessed, a move predicted by Washington state’s leading gun rights advocate. Council candidate Jon Grant’s proposal appears on his campaign website. Here’s what he says: “Seattle won a significant victory in the courts against our national gun violence epidemic, once again leading the nation where the federal government will not. In an 8-1 decision our State Supreme Court upheld our city’s gun violence tax which funds critical public health research. However, in the year since it was implemented it has become clear the law does not go far enough. The revenue created hit less than half its projected goal and therefore the tax on guns and ammunition must be doubled to fulfill our promise to adequately fund critical research on gun violence." More details at link. |
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Something very bad should happen to people that propose this shit.............
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So do they actually believe their logical fallacy that if you take away guns you'll stop the violence?
Do their bodyguards pay this tax? |
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"national gun violence epidemic"
lol I can think of a few better names for it. |
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So do they actually believe their logical fallacy that if you take away guns you'll stop the violence? Do their bodyguards pay this tax? View Quote |
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Seattle is going to Seattle. Glad I left that place years ago. Still love to visit tho.
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Maybe they could put a tax on any act of criminal violence committed with a gun.
If the criminal doesn't pay the tax, then they could put him in prison. Since liberals don't seem to want to imprison people for criminal violence, maybe they would be willing to do it for tax evasion since they like taxes so much. |
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"Because men are rapists, and only men can be rapists, of course, because a woman cannot possibly rape a man, we should tax every man for having testicles, and tax them again based on the size of their penis.
Why? Well, some men rape women. So all men should be taxed to discourage them from raping and convince them to get their balls chopped off so they can't rape anyone." Same argument and logic as the so-called "gun violence tax." |
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So not only did this not solve any gun violence, he wants to increase it because it wasnt enough revenue to fund his pet projects, so he can drive away even more business. This coupled with their living wage BS and I give that city 10 years before its another Detroit.
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One store now makes up 83% of the tax paid to the city now and he's fighting the tax.
Man if there was a work around to stay in his location with demo firearms but have the customers officially purchase and pick up at another facility outside of the city as a big F-you to Seattle I would be all for it. |
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The only problem?
Most of the gun stores closed shop and left Seattle a long time ago. No one in their right mind buys guns or ammo in Seattle. Plenty of the surrounding cities that don't have a "gun sales tax". The tax has been a complete failure. They city is spending its own money on funding the studies - what the tax was supposed to fund. |
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Do the criminals pay this tax?
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Why aren't they working on changing the name of the state from somebody who owned slaves to something else?
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Unconstitutional tax is unconstitutional but the vast majority of seattleites hate the constitution anyway.
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Fun fact: Seattle City Council members make $117,000 per year. Second highest pay for a city council position in the nation.
Pretty cushy gig, now I can see why dipshits like Jon Grant pander to even bigger idiots so much. KEEP THAT GRAVY TRAIN RUNNIN! |
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"We made less than half of what we thought we would make on the tax, therefor we should double the tax"
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The entire "Tax" thing has gotten ridiculously out of hand; gun tax, sin tax, soda tax, luxury tax, yadda yadda. Then we have situations where cities that have a dollar shortfall and/or unexpected infrastructure upgrade funding shortfall, so they vote in a property tax hike. Of course after that property tax get approved and implemented the owned property value miraculously gets surveyed and goes up shortly after, therefore raising taxed value again. Taxed left and right this crap needs to be simplified and limited. I also think taxes should not be used to try to discourage purchases that some leftist voting board doesn't agree with.
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Ya it worked out so well, we should double it and run the one gun dealer out of town that is actually paying taxes!
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BELLEVUE, WA – Attorneys for the Second Amendment Foundation and the senior editor of its publication, TheGunMag.com, have filed a renewed motion for summary judgment against the City of Seattle for its refusal to provide specific revenue information on the city’s so-called “gun violence tax.”
“Seattle’s continued refusal to reveal specific revenue data on its so-called ‘gun violence tax’ amounts to the city thumbing its nose at the Public Records Act (PRA),” said SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan Gottlieb. “Our renewed motion includes an important statement from the city’s largest firearms retailer that includes a stunning revelation that may explain the city’s reluctance to come clean with an aggregate revenue figure. “When the city said it had collected less than $200,000,” he added, “it is apparently a lot less. Their pie-in-the-sky revenue forecast when they rammed the tax through appears to have consisted of hot air and road apples.” Editor Dave Workman maintains that this is a First Amendment issue, and that the public has a right to know whether the original revenue forecast of between $300,000 to $500,000 was even remotely accurate. “The bottom line,” said Gottlieb, who also serves as TheGunMag.com publisher, “is that the people deserve an accurate revenue figure and the city stubbornly does not want to release it. Their argument that this is a taxpayer privacy issue just went up in smoke. We believe their reluctance to reveal a revenue figure has far more to do with the potential embarrassment of having been disastrously optimistic about the money they’d realize from what amounts to a gun control tax. We’re hopeful the court finds in our favor and forces the city to stop playing hide-and-seek.” Attorneys Steven Fogg and David Edwards, with Corr Cronin Michelson, Baumgardner Fogg & Moore LLP represent SAF and TheGunMag.com in this case, and also represent SAF, the National Rifle Association and National Shooting Sports Foundation in a challenge to the gun tax that has been referred to the state Supreme Court. The tax is being challenged as a violation of the 34-year-old state preemption act. View Quote If I'm not mistaken, there is only one store that still sells firearms within the city. Could be wrong though. Seattle gonna Seattle. Would love to be somewhere else. ![]() |
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Double it? Why not triple it?
Do the same thing with minimum wage! It will work this time! Can't we just deport these idiots to the socialist wonder land of Venezuela? |
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"Because men are rapists, and only men can be rapists, of course, because a woman cannot possibly rape a man, we should tax every man for having testicles, and tax them again based on the size of their penis. Why? Well, some men rape women. So all men should be taxed to discourage them from raping and convince them to get their balls chopped off so they can't rape anyone." Same argument and logic as the so-called "gun violence tax." View Quote It's called "income tax" and it's paid by people who have jobs ![]() ![]() |
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The "gun" violence epidimic is real, but in this case it's not being caused by guns. See if you can find what these cities have in common:
These are per 100,000 people. They were made by someone defending Chicago as being "far from the worst gun violence city." ![]() ![]() Article with more detail Earlier this year, The Trace explored how “murder inequality” leaves black residents of some economically isolated neighborhoods in starkly disproportionate danger of getting shot. Contributor Daniel Kay Hertz found that in two Chicago neighborhoods — Burnside and Fuller Park — the homicide rate was more than 100 per 100,000 residents, more than five times the city average. In St. Louis, 45 percent of shootings this year have been clustered in just eight neighborhoods, according to police data. View Quote |
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Surplus Arms and Ammo has been alright and WGS Guns is pretty good too if you don't mind making the trip down I-5 to Lakewood.
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If they drive the one gun store out of town, where will they get their tax revenue?
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Hamburgers, fries and pizza kill more people than guns, let's tax those.
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So not only did this not solve any gun violence, he wants to increase it because it wasnt enough revenue to fund his pet projects, so he can drive away even more business. This coupled with their living wage BS and I give that city 10 years before its another Detroit. View Quote |
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Outdoor Emporium is the only gun shop that I can think of within the city limits. Am I wrong? It won't belong before they stop selling guns/ammo there.
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The entire "Tax" thing has gotten ridiculously out of hand; gun tax, sin tax, soda tax, luxury tax, yadda yadda. Then we have situations where cities that have a dollar shortfall and/or unexpected infrastructure upgrade funding shortfall, so they vote in a property tax hike. Of course after that property tax get approved and implemented the owned property value miraculously gets surveyed and goes up shortly after, therefore raising taxed value again. Taxed left and right this crap needs to be simplified and limited. I also think taxes should not be used to try to discourage purchases that some leftist voting board doesn't agree with. ![]() View Quote Problem is,the vast majority of people aren't for freedom.Sure,they will say they are,but when it comes down to it,almost everyone has a petty tyrant inside waiting to get out. Tobacco/cigarette taxes are a great example. ![]() I don't smoke,vape,drink soda,drink alcohol,__________,so what do I care if they tax the shit out of it?Someday,they WILL get to taxing something you like. ![]() |
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Tar, feathers, fence rail. Apply as required View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Something very bad should happen to people that propose this shit............. "Hey,what happened to that guy that wanted to do a gun violence tax?" "Last I saw him,he was covered in hot tar and feathers and headed out of town in a box car............" Maybe the ones that came after would think twice,or stick with running the local HOA like a mini dictator. ![]() But alas,it's not to be.We're screwed........ |
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Because there are what, one gun shop in Seattle?
They all closed or moved. |
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Someone should explain to this idiot if you double the tax you will half the sales. Leaving them with the same amount of tax revenue.
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