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Posted: 8/28/2005 7:02:11 AM EDT
Ive seen stories on the TV and internet, where it describes some kind of sea monster attacking a US submarines sonar and leaving teeth all over the rubber covering. Does anybody have a link to this story...ive tried to google it...but couldnt find what I was looking for.

Link Posted: 8/28/2005 7:04:35 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 7:05:10 AM EDT
try a library, isn't there a book called 40,000 leagues under the sea?
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 7:07:36 AM EDT
"We are now deeper than any man has ever been before."
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 7:09:07 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 7:10:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/28/2005 7:11:33 AM EDT by NH_AR_Shooter]
I read that it was on a surface ships sonar dome. Squid sucker scars were found after the ship docked.

Link Posted: 8/28/2005 7:11:20 AM EDT
It was featured on Arthur C. Clarke's Mysterious World on TV a few years back. It was a destroyer on its maiden voyage and something attacked the sonar dome on the bottom of the bow. It shredded the rubber coating pretty well and left "teeth" about an inch long in the remainder.

They concluded from the "teeth" that it was a very large giant squid. The "teeth" were apparently claws that are contained in the suckers of big squids. No estimates on how large but certainly bigger than anything they had ever found before -- if it felt comfortable attacking something the size of a destroyer.

You may be able to find more information through Fortean Times magazine. www.forteantimes.com The magazine covers "Fortean Phenomena" - named after Charles Fort who noticed that there were any number of strange events that could not be explained by anything we currently knew about science.

Other examples of strange things that were covered on the show include a time it rained apples on a house for about two hours, live frogs that popped out of million-year-old rocks, a time it rained hickory nuts and various kinds of seeds, fish falls, what was apparently a living dinosaur in Indonesia, and a snake estimated to be some 50 feet long or so in Africa.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 7:11:21 AM EDT
Yep. Captain Nemo and the Nautilus.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 7:11:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By madman_kirk:

Originally Posted By mjrowley:
try a library, isn't there a book called 40,000 leagues under the sea?

20,000 leagues under the sea. mmk



yea thats it, I have never read it.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 7:13:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/28/2005 7:15:09 AM EDT by captainpooby]




Cookie-cutter Shark Bite


The image shows damage to the sonar dome of a submarine. The cookie-shaped divot is probably the result of a bite from a Cookie-cutter Shark Isistius brasiliensis (Quoy & Gaimard, 1824).

As the shark bit through the rubber dome, the teeth left marks which are clearly visible.

Bites by Cookie-cutter sharks on nuclear submarines have been reported by Compagno, 1984. The submarine in this image is not nuclear powered.

Further reading
Compagno, L.J.V. 1984. FAO species catalogue. Vol. 4, Sharks of the World. An annotated and illustrated catalogue of shark species known to date. Part 1 - Hexanchiformes to Lamniformes: viii, 1-250.

Link Posted: 8/28/2005 7:56:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By madman_kirk:

Originally Posted By mjrowley:
try a library, isn't there a book called 40,000 leagues under the sea?

20,000 leagues under the sea. mmk



Yea 40,000 was part II!
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 8:13:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/28/2005 8:15:28 AM EDT by BigBore45]
What's amazing that we know the giant squid exist. But there is no documented case of a human seeing one alive . Dead specimens have washed up on beaches around the world and when alive were truely what could be discribed as a sea monster.

It is also known that that Sperm whale almost exclusively eat giant squid. They will dive hundreds of feet deep and spend hours hunting the squid. Using thier sonar to locate and attack the squid.

My guess is that subs, running deep, sometimes go thru giant squid schools. The squids mistake the sub for a whale and try to defend themselves.

Hey it's a theory as good any other

Link Posted: 8/28/2005 8:21:50 AM EDT
there old reports from whalers of catching whales with suction marks on them the size of dinner plates...
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 8:22:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BigBore45:
What's amazing that we know the giant squid exist. But there is no documented case of a human seeing one alive . Dead specimens have washed up on beaches around the world and when alive were truely what could be discribed as a sea monster.

It is also known that that Sperm whale almost exclusively eat giant squid. They will dive hundreds of feet deep and spend hours hunting the squid. Using thier sonar to locate and attack the squid.

My guess is that subs, running deep, sometimes go thru giant squid schools. The squids mistake the sub for a whale and try to defend themselves.

Hey it's a theory as good any other




Well, what about when it happens to a surface ship, like the destroyer? Seems to me the squid was just trying to find some food and picked on something it figured was about the right size. Hmmmm, maybe this is why some fishing boats come up missing . . . .
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 8:26:01 AM EDT
Tag
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 8:26:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/28/2005 8:27:32 AM EDT by THR-Thumper]

But there is no documented case of a human seeing one alive .


Yeah there is. The crew of the Alecton in November of 1861, amongst others.

Architeuthis. I want one.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 8:33:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By THR-Thumper:

But there is no documented case of a human seeing one alive .


Yeah there is. The crew of the Alecton in November of 1861, amongst others.

Architeuthis. I want one.



Your right I forgot about that .
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 8:35:40 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 8:38:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
giant squid



That would be my best guess too.
By the by a "league" is a unit of distance a "fathom" is a unit of depth. It should have been "20,000 Fathoms Under the Sea.", LOL.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 8:38:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Gunner1X:
www.funtasticparties.us/Arielsassy.jpg



I think that possibly warrants a BOTD heads-up in the subject line.....she's not wearing a burkha, ya know.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 8:41:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BigBore45:

Originally Posted By THR-Thumper:

But there is no documented case of a human seeing one alive .


Yeah there is. The crew of the Alecton in November of 1861, amongst others.

Architeuthis. I want one.



Your right I forgot about that .



There was also an incident reported in WWII after a ship went down and the guys were stuck floating on debris for several days. They reported that a big squid stalked them and would periodically reach up and just snatch one of them off the rafts. One survivor still had big sucker marks where the squid had torn out big chunks of his flesh.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 8:50:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By wolfman97:

Originally Posted By BigBore45:

Originally Posted By THR-Thumper:

But there is no documented case of a human seeing one alive .


Yeah there is. The crew of the Alecton in November of 1861, amongst others.

Architeuthis. I want one.



Your right I forgot about that .



There was also an incident reported in WWII after a ship went down and the guys were stuck floating on debris for several days. They reported that a big squid stalked them and would periodically reach up and just snatch one of them off the rafts. One survivor still had big sucker marks where the squid had torn out big chunks of his flesh.

That sounds like one hell of a way to go.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 9:50:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TNFrank:
By the by a "league" is a unit of distance a "fathom" is a unit of depth. It should have been "20,000 Fathoms Under the Sea.", LOL.



20,000 leagues is correct. They weren't 20,000 leagues down. They traveled 20,000 leagues around the world -- while under the sea. 20,000 leagues is much longer than the Earth is thick. They'd be a quarter of the way to the moon on the other side of the world.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 9:53:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TNFrank:

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
giant squid



That would be my best guess too.
By the by a "league" is a unit of distance a "fathom" is a unit of depth. It should have been "20,000 Fathoms Under the Sea.", LOL.

Wasn't the title referring to the distance traveled by the Nautilus, and not the depth?
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 9:57:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Gunner1X:
www.funtasticparties.us/Arielsassy.jpg




if she lost the outfit, she'd be pretty cute.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 10:03:08 AM EDT

Giant squid are the scariest creatures on the freakin planet !!!!


(whenever I dive in deep water, I worry about them )
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 10:13:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By THR-Thumper:

But there is no documented case of a human seeing one alive .


Yeah there is. The crew of the Alecton in November of 1861, amongst others.

Architeuthis. I want one.




Also a scientist has managed to capture some in larvel form.

Not the same, but it was a first.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 10:15:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Spade:

Originally Posted By THR-Thumper:

But there is no documented case of a human seeing one alive .


Yeah there is. The crew of the Alecton in November of 1861, amongst others.

Architeuthis. I want one.




Also a scientist has managed to capture some in larvel form.

Not the same, but it was a first.



I saw that one too, Discovery HD I think. Too bad he wasn't able to keep any alive, but very interesting nonetheless.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 10:22:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Giant squid are the scariest creatures on the freakin planet !!!!


(whenever I dive in deep water, I worry about them )



Not to worry. I don't think you will find water that deep in MO.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 10:26:30 AM EDT
I feel obligated to ask, "What's the best round for giant squid?"
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 10:27:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Spudgunner:
I feel obligated to ask, "What's the best round for giant squid?"



Anyone for some aquabumping?
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 2:25:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Spudgunner:
I feel obligated to ask, "What's the best round for giant squid?"




Torpedo?
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 2:32:33 PM EDT
It was this guy I bet.

Link Posted: 8/28/2005 2:38:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/28/2005 2:39:14 PM EDT by Dragracer_Art]

Originally Posted By echo459:
It was this guy I bet.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/visigoth/sigmund2.jpg



Nah.... Sigmund the sea monster wouldn't hurt anyone...

What were his brothers names ??? Burp & Slurp or something ?
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 3:00:20 PM EDT
Ya know, I hear sunlight never reaches certain depths, much less the bottom of the ocean.

Think maybe we could get a nuke and bring some sunshine in a can to these poor, dark regions of the earth?
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 3:06:21 PM EDT
The stories of giant squids are true, but they are nothing that would be threatening to say a
fishing boat.

The Navy 'All Hands' or 'Surface Warfare' magazine ran a story about different incidents a few
years ago. Even had some pics of 100+ foot long specimens.

I think whales are a more common collision victim than most people think. We started recieving
'Marine Mammal Awareness' training after a couple whales washed up on the East coast looking
like a couple of Florida manatees.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 3:11:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dragracer_Art:

Originally Posted By echo459:
It was this guy I bet.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/visigoth/sigmund2.jpg



Nah.... Sigmund the sea monster wouldn't hurt anyone...

What were his brothers names ??? Burp & Slurp or something ?




I find it a little disturbing that you know this.......
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 3:13:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By wolfman97:

Originally Posted By BigBore45:

Originally Posted By THR-Thumper:

But there is no documented case of a human seeing one alive .


Yeah there is. The crew of the Alecton in November of 1861, amongst others.

Architeuthis. I want one.



Your right I forgot about that .



There was also an incident reported in WWII after a ship went down and the guys were stuck floating on debris for several days. They reported that a big squid stalked them and would periodically reach up and just snatch one of them off the rafts. One survivor still had big sucker marks where the squid had torn out big chunks of his flesh.



If I had my way that fucker would be frying in boiling oil. Even then that's still not good enough for the bastard.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 3:15:47 PM EDT
you kow I was thinking more along the lines of a mini-nuke but then we may get a Godzilla.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 3:27:16 PM EDT
Beerslayer is right! The navy has already proven it! The Giant Squid is drwn to the sonar bean for some reason, they have actually found dead ones fried by the sonar waves still clinging in a couple cases.

And yes they do exist. Canadian Seamen who had ships sank by Torpedoes in WWII have been eaten by them, due to the bright orange color of their floatation vest attracting them and other Seamen have seen that is what they were.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 3:27:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gunner1X:
www.funtasticparties.us/Arielsassy.jpg




She can leave sucker marks on me any day.

Link Posted: 8/28/2005 3:31:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fireguy3:
Beerslayer is right! The navy has already proven it! The Giant Squid is drwn to the sonar bean for some reason, they have actually found dead ones fried by the sonar waves still clinging in a couple cases.

And yes they do exist. Canadian Seamen who had ships sank by Torpedoes in WWII have been eaten by them, due to the bright orange color of their floatation vest attracting them and other Seamen have seen that is what they were.



Giant man eating squid....just one more reason to stay the hell out of the ocean.

Or any place else humans are considered tasty snacks.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 3:36:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NH_AR_Shooter:

Originally Posted By Fireguy3:
Beerslayer is right! The navy has already proven it! The Giant Squid is drwn to the sonar bean for some reason, they have actually found dead ones fried by the sonar waves still clinging in a couple cases.

And yes they do exist. Canadian Seamen who had ships sank by Torpedoes in WWII have been eaten by them, due to the bright orange color of their floatation vest attracting them and other Seamen have seen that is what they were.



Giant man eating squid....just one more reason to stay the hell out of the ocean.

Or any place else humans are considered tasty snacks.



Giant squid, sharks, carnivorous whales, jellyfish, those giant isopods I posted pictures of, pirahna, candiru, electric eels, moray eels, sea urchins, alligators, crocodiles, snapping turtles, batfish... Remind me, what is it that I like about going in the water again?
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 3:39:45 PM EDT
Humboldt squids live in deep waters off the baja peninsula. They get something like 10 feet long or so. Fishermen catch them all the time.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 3:39:45 PM EDT
being in MN I'm not too worried about giant squid, Giant leeches scare me
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 3:42:24 PM EDT
Big




Bigger




Oh my God

Link Posted: 8/28/2005 3:59:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 4:03:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NH_AR_Shooter:
I read that it was on a surface ships sonar dome. Squid sucker scars were found after the ship docked.





I"m pretty sure that somewhere there is a huge ass squid going "WTF?!?"
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 4:23:15 PM EDT
There is also something known as a Cookie Cutter Shark. One of the shark group's scientific name is Isistius brasiliensis.

Basically, it is a small shark that is optimized at biting off chunks of blubber or flesh from larger marine animals. It has bioluminescent areas that encourage larger animals to target the CCS as prey. When they come in for the kill, the tables are turned, and the CCS winds up with a chunk of flesh for its trouble.

Nasty look critters, but harmless to humans.


Link Posted: 8/28/2005 4:30:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fireguy3:
Beerslayer is right! The navy has already proven it! The Giant Squid is drwn to the sonar bean for some reason, they have actually found dead ones fried by the sonar waves still clinging in a couple cases.

And yes they do exist. Canadian Seamen who had ships sank by Torpedoes in WWII have been eaten by them, due to the bright orange color of their floatation vest attracting them and other Seamen have seen that is what they were.



Crikey mate , whether getting picked off a lifeboat .......or swallowed whole while floating by a beak ,
I bet the survivors were a little shook .

Jeez wacthing your buddies gettin picked off the life raft by a tenacle would really suck (HAR HAR) I'm thinkin you'd never be the same not soon not later not ever ! gives me the willies just thinkin about it . I dont wilie easy
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 4:42:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:

Originally Posted By wolfman97:

Originally Posted By BigBore45:

Originally Posted By THR-Thumper:

But there is no documented case of a human seeing one alive .


Yeah there is. The crew of the Alecton in November of 1861, amongst others.

Architeuthis. I want one.



Your right I forgot about that .



There was also an incident reported in WWII after a ship went down and the guys were stuck floating on debris for several days. They reported that a big squid stalked them and would periodically reach up and just snatch one of them off the rafts. One survivor still had big sucker marks where the squid had torn out big chunks of his flesh.



If I had my way that fucker would be frying in boiling oil. Even then that's still not good enough for the bastard.



Isn't that kind of harsh? Just because an old Sailor is covered in giant sucker scars is no valid reason to subject him to that type of torture.
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