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Posted: 9/5/2005 1:12:33 PM EDT
[#1]
Very cool.
I think the star wars ships are more fantasy however. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 1:16:20 PM EDT
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No Serenity/Firefy.
Hmmm, a few others are missing too. Cool though! ByteTheBullet (-: |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 1:18:03 PM EDT
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Thanks for the link. It's great, and I've already forwarded it to my sci fi daughter.
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Posted: 9/5/2005 1:19:24 PM EDT
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I think they should throw in the ships from Dune and was the Eagle from Space 1999 on there?
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Posted: 9/5/2005 1:22:04 PM EDT
[#5]
Holy shit that star wars ship is huge!
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Posted: 9/5/2005 1:24:53 PM EDT
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I agree, the ships in Star Wars really are more in the realm of fantasy then anything else...I mean, a super star destoryer would have a mass greater then Mars's moon Phobos.
I think B5 had the best ships of any scifi series, realisitc and cool. Actually that's true of B5 in general. Trek is cool as well, but the ship designed with the saucer on a stick has never made any sense to me. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 1:26:47 PM EDT
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As opposed to reality? 
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Posted: 9/5/2005 1:40:05 PM EDT
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Unless Phobos is really fricking small, explain to me how a super star destroyed 17 miles long has more mass than a moon. Also, http://stardestroyer.net/ has quite a bit of work on physics, mainly focusing on Star Wars and Star Trek. Star Wars, while as unrealistic and fantastic as any other sci-fi series, has pretty good practical groundings. Star Trek, on the other hand, is pure fantasy. Any real engineer, scientist, or government would go ballistic if some approved half the things the Star Trek universe finds no faults in. Not to mention their little socialist utopia thing they've got going. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 1:40:48 PM EDT
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That's sort of the upper limit to how big it might have been. When it is listed in books/games it is listed as 8000 meters, or five times as long as a regular star destroyed. However, the size in the picture comes from ROTJ where they show the SSD next to an ISD and the SSD appeared to be quite a bit larger than 8000 meters. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 1:47:00 PM EDT
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That's great, the ship from Galaxy Quest is in there.
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Posted: 9/5/2005 1:54:27 PM EDT
[#11]
no Dahak...
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Posted: 9/5/2005 1:55:15 PM EDT
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Some of those dimensions are made up (by whoever did that chart, not just by the creators of the shows). I recall, from the book 2001, that the Discovery was 700 feet long, making it more than 200 meters long. Furthermore, I have to go back and watch a fair bit of Deep Space Nine, there are a number of ships in there that I had forgotten about. Or simply hadn't seen. All in all, pretty damn cool.
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Posted: 9/5/2005 1:57:15 PM EDT
[#13]
heh the space above and beyond ships are on there
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Posted: 9/5/2005 1:57:47 PM EDT
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On the size issue I exagerated, a little bit, Phobos, on it's longest axis is only 27km long, and has a mas less then .0013 that of our moon. It's up for debate wether it's a captured asteroid or a chunk of mars blown off during one of the larger impacts, prehaps the one that cause the tharsis buldge. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 2:00:08 PM EDT
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Uniform steel/titanium etc as would be used in ship construction (not to mention armour plate) is quite a bit more dense then aggregate matter including high amounts of silicates and other nonmetals.
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Posted: 9/5/2005 2:00:47 PM EDT
[#16]
Now they need to add some more like.
I'd like to see the Goa'uld and Asgard ships from Stargate and the Zentraedi cruisers from SDF Macross. Maybe even the Sulaco from Aliens. 
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Posted: 9/5/2005 2:05:34 PM EDT
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One GunStar could kick all their asses.
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Posted: 9/5/2005 2:05:52 PM EDT
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The poster shows the Executor at 17454 meters which works out to 17Km.  Phobos diameter: 22.2 km (27 x 21.6 x 18.8) mass: 1.08e16 kg I couldn't find anything on the Mass of the SSD. Though the written sources I've seen have made mention that they are very massive. Just about anything would be speculation as it doesn't really exist.
As a Star Wars fan, I must say that Star Wars has an absolutely lousy grounding in any real science. It's sword and sworcery in space. It's Fantasy. The original Star Trek is much closer to reality than Star Wars. The Star Trek franchise has fallen off a bit with all of the off shoots. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 2:09:08 PM EDT
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Probably everything you could ever want to know about the SSD. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 2:12:29 PM EDT
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Very interesting! Too bad I'll be dead long before we can build something like the super star destroyer... perhaps my son's grandchildren we be able to see something like that. How cool.
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Posted: 9/5/2005 2:17:47 PM EDT
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Greetings Starfighter. You have been recruited by the Star League to defend the frontier against Xur and the Ko-Dan Armada
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Posted: 9/5/2005 2:19:02 PM EDT
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Under the original starships from Star Trek it says "Constitution Class".
 It should be Constellation Class. 
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Posted: 9/5/2005 2:24:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/5/2005 2:40:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/5/2005 2:43:20 PM EDT
[#25]
Haha, nice. It's even got the old-school Star Trek Doomsday Machine on there!
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Posted: 9/5/2005 2:47:43 PM EDT
[#26]
There mere fact it used Newtonian physics is shocking. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 2:55:00 PM EDT
[#27]
 "FARSCAPE" Represented  What no Scarren Dreadnaught 
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Posted: 9/5/2005 3:10:28 PM EDT
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The program has been cut (budget), but the NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Program didn't smirk at Star Trek type technology. And the people who worked in the BPP lab are probably still working on the ideas, maybe with official support. Jim |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 3:25:31 PM EDT
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How can something be so cool and so geeky at the same time?
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Posted: 9/5/2005 3:27:29 PM EDT
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The giant 'bulge snack' of death. Yakov Sminrov in 23rd century. "In 23rd century, Bugle Snack eats you!" |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 3:29:37 PM EDT
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And where are the Death Stars? At 120km and 160km, respectively, they are both bigger than all the other ships laid end-to-end.
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Posted: 9/5/2005 3:40:04 PM EDT
[#32]
Man!! Cool diagram of size comparisons... Found Picards ship on there too...
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Posted: 9/5/2005 4:16:25 PM EDT
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I posted a similar site a while back:
Jeff Russells Starship Dimensions Has the Halo Ring,Vger from Star Trek:The Motion Picture,The Dyson Sphere,Vorlon Planet Killer etc. The only thing missing from either is a Magog Worldship. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 8:01:29 PM EDT
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No, it's Constitution. Constellation Class is the same class as the Stargazer, which looks nothing like Kirk's ship/s.
Read the articles on Star Trek on stardestroyer.net. Star Trek's technology is so unrealistic that it's ridiculous. Phasers are the exact OPPOSITE of ergonomic, practical, and intelligently designed, their ships are constantly in danger of being blown up when any little thing goes wrong, everything is centralized to a single computer that nearly kills the entire crew whenever it malfunctions, gets a virus, or is shut down, the holodeck goes on a homicidal rampage every other episode but never gets taken offline for being faulty technology, they have no ground military forces whatsoever (a bunch of goldshirts with women's shaving razors for weapons does not an army make), and the transporter is constantly going haywire. No modern engineer, scientist, or corporation would EVER approve the technology used in ST:TNG in its current state. If it isn't ridiculously unwieldy or poorly thought it, it gets extras killed on a regular basis! Star Wars is, as I said, fantasy, just like Star Trek and every other sci-fi show. But the technology used is PRACTICAL. Ergonomic, powerful, and diverse small arms, armor, fighter craft, better warship designs (though if you can't see the design flaws in a Star Destroyer you're probably blind), troopers wear body armor with limited NBC capabilities, they use buttons and switches instead of dorky touchpads, and they actually PILOT their spacecraft instead of punching in a bunch of numbers and letting the ship do the flying. That said, there are few things that will motivate me to break out the popcorn more than a good Star Trek marathon, especially the original series.
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Posted: 9/5/2005 8:05:35 PM EDT
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And remember the civilization in Star Wars has had Faster Than Light capabilities for 25 thousand years so the technology to build such huge ships would proabally be well within the capabilities of such a populous and mature civilization.
Where were we 25,000 years ago? We still are at least a couple of centuries from FTL travel. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 8:06:27 PM EDT
[#36]
GAH!! I'M NOT THE ONLY PERSON THAT THOUGHT THAT!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 8:09:54 PM EDT
[#37]
Do you guys mean bugles? Cause otherwise you really sound dorky!
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Posted: 9/5/2005 8:11:36 PM EDT
[#38]
Yes, Beagle Snacks!
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Posted: 9/5/2005 8:13:36 PM EDT
[#39]
Woof! [/postwhore] |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 8:16:18 PM EDT
[#40]
How cool!
I'll admit to being greatly dsappointed with the Galactica, though. BTW, I thought the ships from "V" were three MILES wide, not kilometers? Or am I confusing those with those REDICULOUSLY huge things from Independence Day?
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Posted: 9/5/2005 8:16:50 PM EDT
[#41]
No SG-1?
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Posted: 9/5/2005 8:17:36 PM EDT
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Hmm.. yes.  And it is missing the Sphere O' Fear... Giant Hurt Ball... Death Moon... (Death Star  )
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Posted: 9/5/2005 8:17:40 PM EDT
[#43]
+1.1256357536876832434236 |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 8:20:18 PM EDT
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I think ID4 was 15km |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 8:44:17 PM EDT
[#45]
way cool....
tag |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 8:47:43 PM EDT
[#46]
So, where is Spaceball 1?
-Steve |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 9:00:43 PM EDT
[#47]
nice find!
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Posted: 9/5/2005 9:33:37 PM EDT
[#48]
Where is the Red Dwarf?
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Posted: 9/5/2005 9:45:34 PM EDT
[#49]
NERDS!
 Yeah, but i like it, too. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 9:49:14 PM EDT
[#50]
You mean the Deathticle? |
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