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Posted: 1/19/2015 11:48:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/19/2015 11:49:24 AM EST by targettarget]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/18/schumer-outlaw-homemade-explosives/

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) - U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer says he is introducing legislation to make it illegal to build homemade bombs.
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The New York Democrat said Sunday that current federal rules could potentially allow someone to make homemade explosives without breaking the law. He says that the Boston Marathon bombing and the publication by terrorist groups of recipes for homemade bombs show the need to criminalize the activity.

The senator says the legal loophole hinders law-enforcement efforts to stop acts of terror and violence. His legislation would outlaw bomb making, though exceptions would be made for businesses with a license to create explosives for legitimate uses.

Specifically, the bill would authorize the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and other agencies to arrest those who are manufacturing homemade explosives.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:49:34 AM EST
I'm curious as to what "homemade explosives" are currently legal in the US.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:50:31 AM EST
I thought making bombs was illegal.
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With a tax stamp you can make a grenade.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:51:12 AM EST
I'm more curious if a law like this would have stopped things like the Boston bombing similar to how gun free zones stop shootings?
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Originally Posted By targettarget:
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Yeah,I wonder too.

Schumer is a piece of fucking shit and I wish nothing but bad things for that scumbag.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:52:08 AM EST
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Tannerite. The bill could also potentially be used to outlaw gunpowder for reloading, as a bomb could be made from that. It could also outlaw having more than a certain amount of ammo so you can't pull bullets and build a bomb. It's schumer, so it's likely more back door gun control.

Eta: punctuation
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He's probably talking about Tannerite which is ammonium nitrate and german dark aluminum powder.

There are 2 explosives I can think of off the top of my head that can be made from unbannable ingredients. The 7/7 London bombings used one of them.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:54:06 AM EST
Originally Posted By targettarget:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/18/schumer-outlaw-homemade-explosives/

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) - U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer says he is introducing legislation to make it illegal to build homemade bombs.
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The New York Democrat said Sunday that current federal rules could potentially allow someone to make homemade explosives without breaking the law. He says that the Boston Marathon bombing and the publication by terrorist groups of recipes for homemade bombs show the need to criminalize the activity.

The senator says the legal loophole hinders law-enforcement efforts to stop acts of terror and violence. His legislation would outlaw bomb making, though exceptions would be made for businesses with a license to create explosives for legitimate uses.

Specifically, the bill would authorize the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and other agencies to arrest those who are manufacturing homemade explosives.


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He's a fucking retard.
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Tannerite, in act ANY Binary target material would fall under this. Reenactors, and just home chemists, Pyrotechnic/Firework makerswho make their own Black Powder...all would fall under this, High Power Rocketry guys who make their own Pyrogen Ignitors, and large (REALLY Large) Motor grains...this type of thing can have VERY Far-reaching consequences
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:59:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By PhilChordoma:
Tannerite. The bill could also potentially be used to outlaw gunpowder for reloading, as a bomb could be made from that. It could also outlaw having more than a certain amount of ammo so you can't pull bullets and build a bomb. It's schumer, so it's likely more back door gun control.

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I would say you're spot on. Wouldn't surprise me if they added storing "large quanities" of gasoline in there as well. Can't have citizens being able to make Molotovs after they saw the uprising in Ukraine.

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Originally Posted By Paul:
Just make it illegal to kill people.
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I may be wrong, but I believe it already is
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Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:

I may be wrong, but I believe it already is
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Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:
Originally Posted By Paul:
Just make it illegal to kill people.

I may be wrong, but I believe it already is


Says the guy with two confirmed kills in his sigline
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Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:

I may be wrong, but I believe it already is
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Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:
Originally Posted By Paul:
Just make it illegal to kill people.

I may be wrong, but I believe it already is


I'm pretty sure you are wrong. Killing people happens all the time. I wish we had a law...
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Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:

I may be wrong, but I believe it already is
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Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:
Originally Posted By Paul:
Just make it illegal to kill people.

I may be wrong, but I believe it already is


He could make it more illegal then.

Like double or even triple illegal...



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Whatever his stated intention, you can bet your ass it's a direct attack on gun owners.
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The Boston bombers made their bombs from fireworks they cut apart. Schumer's proposal would not have stopped them.
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Originally Posted By PhilChordoma:
Tannerite. The bill could also potentially be used to outlaw gunpowder for reloading, as a bomb could be made from that. It could also outlaw having more than a certain amount of ammo so you can't pull bullets and build a bomb. It's schumer, so it's likely more back door gun control.

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I am guessing this is the end game.
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Originally Posted By PhilChordoma:
Tannerite. The bill could also potentially be used to outlaw gunpowder for reloading, as a bomb could be made from that. It could also outlaw having more than a certain amount of ammo so you can't pull bullets and build a bomb. It's schumer, so it's likely more back door gun control.

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It could also outlaw farting in your own home.
One would need to release their methane gas at a special site supervised by the local police bomb squad after paying a tax.

Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:08:55 PM EST
Originally Posted By targettarget:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/18/schumer-outlaw-homemade-explosives/

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) - U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer says he is introducing legislation to make it illegal to build homemade bombs.
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The New York Democrat said Sunday that current federal rules could potentially allow someone to make homemade explosives without breaking the law. He says that the Boston Marathon bombing and the publication by terrorist groups of recipes for homemade bombs show the need to criminalize the activity.

The senator says the legal loophole hinders law-enforcement efforts to stop acts of terror and violence. His legislation would outlaw bomb making, though exceptions would be made for businesses with a license to create explosives for legitimate uses.

Specifically, the bill would authorize the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and other agencies to arrest those who are manufacturing homemade explosives.


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Would this law exempt Arabs and Persians ?
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:09:03 PM EST
All I want for Christmas is CHUCKY BOY SUCK STARTING A CHAINSAW.
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It could also outlaw farting in your own home.
One would need to release their methane gas at a special site supervised by the local police bomb squad after paying a tax.

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Originally Posted By pv74:
Originally Posted By PhilChordoma:
Tannerite. The bill could also potentially be used to outlaw gunpowder for reloading, as a bomb could be made from that. It could also outlaw having more than a certain amount of ammo so you can't pull bullets and build a bomb. It's schumer, so it's likely more back door gun control.

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It could also outlaw farting in your own home.
One would need to release their methane gas at a special site supervised by the local police bomb squad after paying a tax.



Good call sir. Eliminate terrorists while at the same time, pushing global warming.
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Originally Posted By AJK07734:

Tannerite, in act ANY Binary target material would fall under this. Reenactors, and just home chemists, Pyrotechnic/Firework makerswho make their own Black Powder...all would fall under this, High Power Rocketry guys who make their own Pyrogen Ignitors, and large (REALLY Large) Motor grains...this type of thing can have VERY Far-reaching consequences
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Originally Posted By AJK07734:
Originally Posted By targettarget:
I'm curious as to what "homemade explosives" are currently legal in the US.

Tannerite, in act ANY Binary target material would fall under this. Reenactors, and just home chemists, Pyrotechnic/Firework makerswho make their own Black Powder...all would fall under this, High Power Rocketry guys who make their own Pyrogen Ignitors, and large (REALLY Large) Motor grains...this type of thing can have VERY Far-reaching consequences

I'd be surprised if keeping gunpowder in general didn't get caught up with this kind of bullshit.
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Outlaw schumer
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:20:55 PM EST
If only homemade explosives were illegalized , the Boston Bomber probably wouldnt have built a bomb to bomb the boston marathon
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:21:35 PM EST
Yeah I am sure that if their bomb would have been illegal they would have reconsidered killing those people for fear of getting in trouble for their bomb.

I was not really aware of any legal bombs that could be made. There is the old ANFO diesel and fertilizer which both can be bought legally but I am pretty sure it is illegal to combine them to make a bomb.

I never really looked into making this type of stuff because I can buy whatever I want ready made.

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Originally Posted By Paul:
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Now that right there is an idea!
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:29:33 PM EST
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Yeah wait until he finds out the active ingredient in zit cream is an explosive or that this would end drag racing because nitromethane is also a high explosive or that anyone who owns a car made after 95 is in possession of explosives.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:33:32 PM EST
It is already illegal to make bombs. And without permits, it is illegal to transport explosives on public roads yet still legal to make explosives.

It is illegal to use fireworks as a weapon too so that is covered.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:34:13 PM EST
A bill to outlaw homemade bombs and destructive devices is "feel good" legislation and something that would sail easily through the Senate.

Then, just before it gets voted on, and when no one is paying attention, some Democrat will add gunpowder, primers and homemade ammo to the bill.
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Holy crap, that's genius! Make it illegal to kill people and we've ended terrorism in one go! Why didn't Our Glorious Leader think of that?


Oh, wait...
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Originally Posted By PhilChordoma:
Tannerite. The bill could also potentially be used to outlaw gunpowder for reloading, as a bomb could be made from that. It could also outlaw having more than a certain amount of ammo so you can't pull bullets and build a bomb. It's schumer, so it's likely more back door gun control.

Eta: punctuation
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I wish he would just go away.
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Originally Posted By raven:
He's probably talking about Tannerite which is ammonium nitrate and german dark aluminum powder.

There are 2 explosives I can think of off the top of my head that can be made from unbannable ingredients. The 7/7 London bombings used one of them.
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Originally Posted By raven:
Originally Posted By targettarget:
I'm curious as to what "homemade explosives" are currently legal in the US.
He's probably talking about Tannerite which is ammonium nitrate and german dark aluminum powder.

There are 2 explosives I can think of off the top of my head that can be made from unbannable ingredients. The 7/7 London bombings used one of them.



I can think of 5 improvised explosives that can be made from stuff that would be almost impossible to ban.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:37:29 PM EST
I, for one, will be neck bearding pre ban apple cider...
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:39:26 PM EST
How about we just ban democrats from NY?
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I can think of 5 improvised explosives that can be made from stuff that would be almost impossible to ban.
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Originally Posted By dorobuta:
Originally Posted By raven:
Originally Posted By targettarget:
I'm curious as to what "homemade explosives" are currently legal in the US.
He's probably talking about Tannerite which is ammonium nitrate and german dark aluminum powder.

There are 2 explosives I can think of off the top of my head that can be made from unbannable ingredients. The 7/7 London bombings used one of them.



I can think of 5 improvised explosives that can be made from stuff that would be almost impossible to ban.

Pee for starters
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Without a license, it's legal to make a firecracker with no more than 50 mg of flash powder or black powder.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:40:14 PM EST
What about science projects?

Think of the children.
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Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:

I may be wrong, but I believe it already is
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Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:
Originally Posted By Paul:
Just make it illegal to kill people.

I may be wrong, but I believe it already is

Fuck it, just introduce a new bill to outlaw it and everyone will think it's still legal and DEMAND that it gets passed.
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shhhhh, you'll ruin the narrative if you bring that up. Kinda like gun control, there are plenty of gun laws in the US, if everyone followed the rules and laws extant then there would be no troubles with gang shootings, suicides, murder, children accidentally shooting their friends.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:41:45 PM EST
Who thinks this will be used to outlaw possession of gun powder, either now or in the not too distant future? Like via some kind of administrative expansion after enforcement of this much needed new law is turned over to the ATF.

This will probably kill model rocketry and the fireworks industry in very short order. Schumer is an evil man.
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Originally Posted By California_Kid:

Without a license, it's legal to make a firecracker with no more than 50 mg of flash powder or black powder.
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Originally Posted By California_Kid:
Originally Posted By targettarget:
I'm curious as to what "homemade explosives" are currently legal in the US.

Without a license, it's legal to make a firecracker with no more than 50 mg of flash powder or black powder.



That's like 0.771617918 gr. not a lot of power there
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Originally Posted By Pudwak:

Fuck it, just introduce a new bill to outlaw it and everyone will think it's still legal and DEMAND that it gets passed.
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Originally Posted By Pudwak:
Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:
Originally Posted By Paul:
Just make it illegal to kill people.

I may be wrong, but I believe it already is

Fuck it, just introduce a new bill to outlaw it and everyone will think it's still legal and DEMAND that it gets passed.



Yep must close the 'killing people' loophole
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anfo etc farmers use to clear stumps


This is pointless because if people feel the need to make bombs they will. whatever.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:45:21 PM EST
I would fully support a law that bans schumer
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Can I still own propane, and propane accessories?

Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:50:22 PM EST
Everyone with a propane fired bbq has to get ride of them. A small propane tank makes a pretty nice BOOM. Wasn't a propane bottle art of an attempt to blow up an suv somewhere in New York a few years ago??
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 12:52:13 PM EST
Criminals will still make them, just like they still murder people even though it has been illegal for a long time. Dumbass.
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He's a fuck head and doesn't know shit about bombs.

There's a clip of him at the senate hearings after they burned down the "Branch Davidian" compound insisting that a flash-bang grenade was not dangerous. It can't hurt you-you can set 'em off in your hand and it won't hurt you. You first Chucky boy.

He is either; A. willfully stupid, or B. an out and out fuck head.

Maybe a willfully stupid fuck head.
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He wants to make making illegal bombs illegal?
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