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Posted: 9/19/2009 5:18:47 PM EST
Tried to post this in Self Defense and Fitness, but didn't get any attention there.

So I sort of need something to get involved into, and one of my friends suggested kickboxing. I don't really know anything about it, but it seems like it would be a good idea. I'm already decently in shape, but I have zero hand to hand experience. So what's the deal? What kind of equipment am I looking at buying? How much will the gear run me? And most importantly: is it fun?

Any info is great.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:57:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 5:58:19 PM EST by AcidGambit]
You kick things. If you like to kick things, I suppose it's fun. Most of the places teach exercise kickboxing, not the fighting kind.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:05:29 PM EST
I tried it years back. The only equipment I remember buying was hand wraps. The other stuff like gloves they had already. They wouldn't let you start where I went unless you had some experience with the basics. It was a lot of fun when I wasn't getting hit .

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:07:11 PM EST
If your a Marine getting ready to go on liberty in Phuket, Thailand listen to the warning about not getting in to the kick boxing ring with the locals.

Those little 110 lb Muay Thai kick boxers will fuck your shit up.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:09:12 PM EST
Originally Posted By wvar15:
I tried it years back. The only equipment I remember buying was hand wraps. The other stuff like gloves they had already. They wouldn't let you start where I went unless you had some experience with the basics. It was a lot of fun when I wasn't getting hit .



What lead to you stopping, if you don't mind me asking?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:14:00 PM EST
gloves, wraps, shorts. Join a Muay Thai place, they'll get you pointed the right direction. I really liked the training, never had an urge to compete. Not a fan of getting punched.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:16:01 PM EST
Kick boxing will separate the men from the boys real damn fast.

Then the women who kick box will kick the ass of those men.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:16:15 PM EST
If you are going to a class where they play aerobics music, and you are punching and kicking the air then please turn in your man card at the door.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:20:00 PM EST
Originally Posted By Feier:
Originally Posted By wvar15:
I tried it years back. The only equipment I remember buying was hand wraps. The other stuff like gloves they had already. They wouldn't let you start where I went unless you had some experience with the basics. It was a lot of fun when I wasn't getting hit .



What lead to you stopping, if you don't mind me asking?


I moved out of the area and just didn't get back into it. I wish I had. I started regular martial arts again about 6 months ago and my joints have been sore the whole time. I should have never stopped.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:26:51 PM EST
Originally Posted By thexrayboy:
Kick boxing will separate the men from the boys real damn fast.

Then the women who kick box will kick the ass of those men.


I got beat down by a small 15 or 16 year old my first fight. I hit him, dropped my hands like I was conditioned to do from point sparring, and he clocked me hard a bunch of times. I never did that again.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:43:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 6:44:29 PM EST by DuraToTheMax]
I've been doing it for about seven years now, off and on. My trainer wants me to do another year and then he'll put me into a mma fight.

It's the greatest sport and workout there is, In my opinion. If you've seen the latest UFC show, they have several ex-NFL players who say that they never worked out this hard in Pro football. If you want to you can get good at it, but it takes some work.

You'll need wraps, 16oz gloves and some shinguards at the very least, could be had for around $100. You'll need to find a gym with good instructors, ask around from people in the know to find one, your trainer makes all the difference.

You'll probably want to start out in group classes to get your cardio up (nothing more important), and if you decide you like it you might want some one on one sessions.

There are a lot of "kickboxers" with absolutely shitty boxing skills. Boxing is a lot more dynamic and strategic than kicking, I'd almost suggest that you learn hands before you learn kicks- kicks are easy, comparatively speaking.


Any moment now, AnnaTrocity will chime in with her exclusive knowledge and experience on the subject, focus this thread on her superior fighting skills and record, and offer to pay the travel expenses for anyone who tells her to fuck off so that they may meet her for a fight. At which point I will be outta here. Until then, OP- feel free to ask any questions.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:45:37 PM EST
I'm looking up online to see what's near me. Is there a large difference between kickboxing and Muay Thai? I sort of read a little and it seems like Muay Thai allows you to use knees, elbows and kick below the waist. Anything else I'm missing?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:50:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 6:51:47 PM EST by Lester_Burnham]
It will depend on the gym. Some use "kickboxing" and "Muay Thai" interchangeably. Most places off a free lesson or even a week. You could always go and just watch. I would recommend a true Muay Thai place as I feel that it's the most practical.

ETA: also, decide what level you want to train at, if you want this to be a hobby, or if you want to compete. That will help in selecting a gym, if you want it more as a hobby I would stay away from the fight oriented gyms. It's easy to get discouraged if that's not a level you want to go at.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:51:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 6:53:06 PM EST by Circle_Cutter]
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:55:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By Feier:
I'm looking up online to see what's near me. Is there a large difference between kickboxing and Muay Thai? I sort of read a little and it seems like Muay Thai allows you to use knees, elbows and kick below the waist. Anything else I'm missing?

Muy Thai is generally considered the most potent kickboxing discipline, it incorporates knees and elbows. That's what I prefer to study when I'm not boxing.

Look for a gym that teaches Jiu Jitsu as well. Isn't Matt Hughes' gym in Ohio?

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:00:05 PM EST
Hughes is in IL down by St. Louis.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:05:24 PM EST
Found a place that's sort of nearby (1 hour 20 minute walk). I'm gonna need to figure out the public transport system I guess. Looking at their site, it seems pretty legit. They also have a coupon for 3 free lessons, so I think I'll find a time that works for me and check it out. Not like I have anything to lose.

Can't wait to get punched in the face.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:07:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:08:49 PM EST by Lester_Burnham]
What's the name of the place?

ETA: http://www.ringside.com is a good place to order gear.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:08:21 PM EST
Originally Posted By Feier:
Found a place that's sort of nearby (1 hour 20 minute walk). I'm gonna need to figure out the public transport system I guess. Looking at their site, it seems pretty legit. They also have a coupon for 3 free lessons, so I think I'll find a time that works for me and check it out. Not like I have anything to lose.

Can't wait to get punched in the face.


You could always block - or even better, move out of the way.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:10:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By Lester_Burnham:
What's the name of the place?

ETA: http://www.ringside.com is a good place to order gear.


I guess it's Tama?

http://www.tamamartialarts.com/

I hope Anna doesn't come into this thread and e-punch me in the head.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:15:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By Seabee_Mech:
If your a Marine getting ready to go on liberty in Phuket, Thailand listen to the warning about not getting in to the kick boxing ring with the locals.

Those little 110 lb Muay Thai kick boxers will fuck your shit up.

Yes they will. Fighting in Thailand is an experience, and they truly do not play around while training. I want to go back next year, but honestly I detest that fucking country.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:18:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:

Originally Posted By Feier:
I'm looking up online to see what's near me. Is there a large difference between kickboxing and Muay Thai? I sort of read a little and it seems like Muay Thai allows you to use knees, elbows and kick below the waist. Anything else I'm missing?

Muy Thai is generally considered the most potent kickboxing discipline, it incorporates knees and elbows. That's what I prefer to study when I'm not boxing.

Look for a gym that teaches Jiu Jitsu as well. Isn't Matt Hughes' gym in Ohio?



I'll second Jiu Jitsu, it's addictive.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:19:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:22:20 PM EST by valheru21]
Originally Posted By Feier:
Originally Posted By Lester_Burnham:
What's the name of the place?

ETA: http://www.ringside.com is a good place to order gear.


I guess it's Tama?

http://www.tamamartialarts.com/

I hope Anna doesn't come into this thread and e-punch me in the head.


As a general rule, I am wary of schools where one master teaches multiple disciplines. I do not automatically discount them, but I am wary. I left my school when they transitioned to trying to teach multiple disciplines (not because of that, but because I moved). When I occasionally visit, I have found that the quality of teaching had become more McDojo like. Don't skimp on the philosophy side of the instruction. A warrior without philosophy is simply a thug, and any martial discipline has a philosophy. Martial arts is a lifestyle that will change you for the better if you embrace all aspects of it from the fighting to the philosophy. That said, I envy you - I've never lived near a good kickboxing school, and I always wanted to learn that...
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:29:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:30:18 PM EST by flyfishnepa]
Originally Posted By Feier:
Originally Posted By Lester_Burnham:
What's the name of the place?

ETA: http://www.ringside.com is a good place to order gear.


I guess it's Tama?

http://www.tamamartialarts.com/

I hope Anna doesn't come into this thread and e-punch me in the head.






"i don't know what im talking about!" POW! "there's a roundhouse kick to your skull for not believing me!"

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:35:42 PM EST
Originally Posted By Feier:
Originally Posted By Lester_Burnham:
What's the name of the place?

ETA: http://www.ringside.com is a good place to order gear.


I guess it's Tama?

http://www.tamamartialarts.com/

I hope Anna doesn't come into this thread and e-punch me in the head.


Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:37:08 PM EST
Originally Posted By valheru21:
Originally Posted By Feier:
Originally Posted By Lester_Burnham:
What's the name of the place?

ETA: http://www.ringside.com is a good place to order gear.


I guess it's Tama?

http://www.tamamartialarts.com/

I hope Anna doesn't come into this thread and e-punch me in the head.


As a general rule, I am wary of schools where one master teaches multiple disciplines. I do not automatically discount them, but I am wary. I left my school when they transitioned to trying to teach multiple disciplines (not because of that, but because I moved). When I occasionally visit, I have found that the quality of teaching had become more McDojo like. Don't skimp on the philosophy side of the instruction. A warrior without philosophy is simply a thug, and any martial discipline has a philosophy. Martial arts is a lifestyle that will change you for the better if you embrace all aspects of it from the fighting to the philosophy. That said, I envy you - I've never lived near a good kickboxing school, and I always wanted to learn that...


I see. It doesn't look like I have very many options here though.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:38:01 PM EST
Originally Posted By Seraph:
Originally Posted By Feier:
Originally Posted By Lester_Burnham:
What's the name of the place?

ETA: http://www.ringside.com is a good place to order gear.


I guess it's Tama?

http://www.tamamartialarts.com/

I hope Anna doesn't come into this thread and e-punch me in the head.


http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g111/Trisagion/AwJeez.jpg


I kid, I kid, I've got nothing but respect for Anna.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:39:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:42:49 PM EST by valheru21]
Originally Posted By Feier:
Originally Posted By valheru21:
Originally Posted By Feier:
Originally Posted By Lester_Burnham:
What's the name of the place?

ETA: http://www.ringside.com is a good place to order gear.


I guess it's Tama?

http://www.tamamartialarts.com/

I hope Anna doesn't come into this thread and e-punch me in the head.


As a general rule, I am wary of schools where one master teaches multiple disciplines. I do not automatically discount them, but I am wary. I left my school when they transitioned to trying to teach multiple disciplines (not because of that, but because I moved). When I occasionally visit, I have found that the quality of teaching had become more McDojo like. Don't skimp on the philosophy side of the instruction. A warrior without philosophy is simply a thug, and any martial discipline has a philosophy. Martial arts is a lifestyle that will change you for the better if you embrace all aspects of it from the fighting to the philosophy. That said, I envy you - I've never lived near a good kickboxing school, and I always wanted to learn that...


I see. It doesn't look like I have very many options here though.


I'm not trying to poo-poo the school. I've never been there. Give it a shot, and remember, you'll get out of it what you put into it. You also said the school is ~5 miles away. That's about the right distance for a bicycle to and from the school as part of your routine - then you can skip the public transport system.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:48:19 PM EST
Tag........because I love a good e-penis measuring contest.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:49:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By valheru21:
Originally Posted By Feier:
Originally Posted By Lester_Burnham:
What's the name of the place?

ETA: http://www.ringside.com is a good place to order gear.


I guess it's Tama?

http://www.tamamartialarts.com/

I hope Anna doesn't come into this thread and e-punch me in the head.


As a general rule, I am wary of schools where one master teaches multiple disciplines. I do not automatically discount them, but I am wary. I left my school when they transitioned to trying to teach multiple disciplines (not because of that, but because I moved). When I occasionally visit, I have found that the quality of teaching had become more McDojo like. Don't skimp on the philosophy side of the instruction. A warrior without philosophy is simply a thug, and any martial discipline has a philosophy. Martial arts is a lifestyle that will change you for the better if you embrace all aspects of it from the fighting to the philosophy. That said, I envy you - I've never lived near a good kickboxing school, and I always wanted to learn that...

Most modern, reputable mma gyms have separate instructors for each technique. Our kickboxing guys teach kickboxing and Jiu Jitsu is taught by accomplished ground guys. They are all taught under the same roof though, don't let the fact that one gym offers various techniques dissuade you from joining.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:52:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:

Originally Posted By valheru21:
Originally Posted By Feier:
Originally Posted By Lester_Burnham:
What's the name of the place?

ETA: http://www.ringside.com is a good place to order gear.


I guess it's Tama?

http://www.tamamartialarts.com/

I hope Anna doesn't come into this thread and e-punch me in the head.


As a general rule, I am wary of schools where one master teaches multiple disciplines. I do not automatically discount them, but I am wary. I left my school when they transitioned to trying to teach multiple disciplines (not because of that, but because I moved). When I occasionally visit, I have found that the quality of teaching had become more McDojo like. Don't skimp on the philosophy side of the instruction. A warrior without philosophy is simply a thug, and any martial discipline has a philosophy. Martial arts is a lifestyle that will change you for the better if you embrace all aspects of it from the fighting to the philosophy. That said, I envy you - I've never lived near a good kickboxing school, and I always wanted to learn that...

Most modern, reputable mma gyms have separate instructors for each technique. Our kickboxing guys teach kickboxing and Jiu Jitsu is taught by accomplished ground guys. They are all taught under the same roof though, don't let the fact that one gym offers various techniques dissuade you from joining.



I absolutely agree. It's when one master is trying to teach multiple disciplines that things get sketchy. I prefer to learn from a master who has studied a particular discipline all his life. As long as you have different masters teaching their particular art, you're generally good to go.
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