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Posted: 2/5/2012 7:22:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/18/2012 11:25:10 AM EDT by tc2k11]
UPDATE: Now that I have a +2 magazine extension, the sawing-off process would only save maybe 6 inches, bringing the OAL to a mere 42 inches.



Almost makes me think I should just leave it as is so I don't lose the choke threads. Or should I switch to a folding stock?

Hmmm.

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How should I go about cutting a 28" barrel down to 18.5"? Measuring the length properly isn't an issue; I already have a dowel and yardstick.

But what about the actual cutting?

A pipe/tubing cutter? Hacksaw? Dremel?

Are these reasonable instructions?

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-164648.html
Here's my instructions on how to do a good at-home barrel cut:

Unload the gun, close the bolt, and insert a cleaning rod down the bore.
Make SURE you have the rod all the way down to the bolt face.
Use a marker to mark the rod even with the muzzle.

Remove the rod, and measure off a MINIMUM of 18 1/2 inches, which is the minimum Federal length.

Lay the rod on the barrel with the first mark even with the muzzle, then mark the barrel at the second mark. This is the cut line.

STOP.
Do the entire measuring process AT LEAST two or three more times to be 100% SURE you've got it done right.
Measure and cut too short and you've violated Federal law and ruined a barrel.

Wrap a piece of tape around the barrel BELOW the cut mark, or use a tubing cutter to score a line around the barrel.
The tape or cutter will give you a square cut line around the barrel.

Use a fine-tooth hacksaw to make two or three shallow cuts on the line.
Rotate the barrel and make several more.
Continue to make shallow cuts and rotate the barrel until you have a line cut all the way around the barrel.

Then, just continue making shallow cuts and rotating the barrel until it's cut all the way through.
This insures that you get a nice square cut, without the saw drifting off at an angle.
This greatly reduces the chances of the muzzle not being square and having to do a lot of filing to square it.

After the barrel is cut off, use a fine-cut file to lightly break the sharp outer edges of the muzzle.

Use fine sand cloth over the ball of your thumb to lightly break the sharp inner edges of the muzzle, and to remove the saw marks from the front edge.

Tough up with cold blue.

New front sights are a little more complicated, and are probably best left to a gunsmith who can drill and tap the barrel for a new bead.

For an inside the home, home defense gun, no front sight is really needed.


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Cross-platform gun database/electronic bound book (v1.3.2) (and the original thread).
«nolite confidere in principibus, in filiis hominum quibus non est salus»
Link Posted: 2/6/2012 2:42:25 AM EDT
Bump for title and OP change.
Link Posted: 2/6/2012 2:54:40 AM EDT
The destructions in the OP are the way I would go about it myself...

but as noted, the sight bead is a bit of a bitch.
Link Posted: 2/6/2012 2:56:03 AM EDT
Since when is 18.5" minimum? I better send back the 18" barrel I bought from Remington.
Link Posted: 2/6/2012 2:58:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:
The destructions in the OP are the way I would go about it myself...

but as noted, the sight bead is a bit of a bitch.

Yeah, I'm going to count that as a loss and not worry about it...



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Cross-platform gun database/electronic bound book (v1.3.2) (and the original thread).
«nolite confidere in principibus, in filiis hominum quibus non est salus»
Link Posted: 2/6/2012 2:59:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:
The destructions in the OP are the way I would go about it myself...

but as noted, the sight bead is a bit of a bitch.


They are very easy with a drill press or a mill. Plus there are epoxy/solder on front sights that are even easier.
Link Posted: 2/6/2012 2:59:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By scottedward58:
Since when is 18.5" minimum? I better send back the 18" barrel I bought from Remington.

Some people subscribe to the "extra length to be safe" theory.


I say legal is legal, I don't need an extra 1/8".


Link Posted: 2/6/2012 2:59:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/6/2012 3:01:17 AM EDT by tc2k11]
Originally Posted By scottedward58:
Since when is 18.5" minimum? I better send back the 18" barrel I bought from Remington.

The extra 0.5" is to account for deburring or minor mistakes that are recoverable with some extra filing.

ETA: I may, in fact, only cut it down to 20" if I get a magazine extension that would otherwise protrude beyond the muzzle.

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Cross-platform gun database/electronic bound book (v1.3.2) (and the original thread).
«nolite confidere in principibus, in filiis hominum quibus non est salus»
Link Posted: 2/6/2012 3:01:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/6/2012 3:02:19 AM EDT by netofficer3710]

I used a pipe cutter on my winchester and cleaned it up with a bastard file, fine grain wet sand paper, and a arkansas stone. After I did this I used a dab of cold blue.
as far as the bead I attached one of these ^ with a dab of epoxy
Link Posted: 2/6/2012 3:01:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tc2k11:
Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:
The destructions in the OP are the way I would go about it myself...

but as noted, the sight bead is a bit of a bitch.

Yeah, I'm going to count that as a loss and not worry about it...



I don't think it would cost ya more than maybe some beer to get it done for ya though.

I'm not aware of what options exist as I haven't done this myself, but personally, I wouldn't just go without.

That's just me though.


Link Posted: 2/6/2012 3:01:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By netofficer3710:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41va98wOE-L._SL500_AA300_.jpg
I used a pipe cutter on my winchester and cleaned it up with a bastard file, fine grain wet sand paper, and a arkansas stone.
as far as the bead I attached one of these ^ with a dab of epoxy

See what I mean?

There ya go!
Link Posted: 2/6/2012 3:04:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:

Originally Posted By scottedward58:
Since when is 18.5" minimum? I better send back the 18" barrel I bought from Remington.

Some people subscribe to the "extra length to be safe" theory.


I say legal is legal, I don't need an extra 1/8".




I cut one down for my 870 that I only left .015 extra on but that is measured from the chamber end of the barrel to the muzzle, once the extra headspace is added by measuring to the bolt face it leaves a roomy .025.
Link Posted: 2/6/2012 4:31:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/6/2012 4:31:43 AM EDT by ElSupremo]
I ain't got no pipe cutter or any them file bastards, but I do got a gas axe that's a mean sumbich
Link Posted: 2/6/2012 4:52:39 AM EDT
I used a pipe cutter on my Maverick 88 and it came out fine. I had to trim away the rib with a Dremel beforehand and touch it up with some cold blue afterwards.
Link Posted: 2/6/2012 5:11:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:
The destructions in the OP are the way I would go about it myself...

but as noted, the sight bead is a bit of a bitch.


I don't need a front sight... the one on my skeet gun fell out. I never bothered to replace it. I'm more accurate now than I was before. Using the ribs on the barrel is a very accurate way to aim, IMO.

FWIW my all-around shotgun is a NEF Pardner pump with a 20" barrel, Remington Shur-Shot stock/forend, and no front sight.
Link Posted: 2/6/2012 5:34:23 AM EDT
I would use a fine tooth hacksaw and square it up with files along with reburring it.
How is that shotgun? Been thinking of picking one up for my trunk.
Link Posted: 2/6/2012 8:15:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By stocklx:
I would use a fine tooth hacksaw and square it up with files along with reburring it.
How is that shotgun? Been thinking of picking one up for my trunk.


They're so similar to an 870 that you can use most of the parts. The barrels can even be swapped with a little modification.

I've put about 300 rounds through mine, and it was used when I bought it. For $135 (used) it was a hell of a deal. Cabelas just had them on sale for $170 new before Christmas... made a nice gift for my dad :)
Link Posted: 2/6/2012 12:58:53 PM EDT
Thanks for the heads up. Now to watch for sales i am gonna grab 2.
Link Posted: 2/18/2012 11:11:14 AM EDT
Update in OP.

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