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Posted: 7/3/2012 6:27:12 AM EDT
Attorney Inventor is pushing for legislation to make safety on table saws mandatory (there's that mandate word again)

Tech works.  Would add $75 to cost of $225-300 saws.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-sawstop-bill-20120703,0,6499509.story?track=rss
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 6:28:57 AM EDT
[#1]


He's a scumbag and his product is prone to false tripping, destroying your sawblade and the cartridge.

Yeah, he's awesome.



Link Posted: 7/3/2012 6:30:00 AM EDT
[#2]
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 6:30:39 AM EDT
[#3]
I'd be ok with the mandate....... if the inventor would wave his rights and make it public domain.

Link Posted: 7/3/2012 6:51:58 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
I'd be ok with the mandate....... if the inventor would wave his rights and make it public domain.



Screw that.  If he wants to use government to force the sale of his product,  I want to use the government to tax him at 100% of any income whatsoever he makes from

the tech.  If it is that important let it stand on its own merits in the market, or give it away for free.
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 7:16:55 AM EDT
[#5]
scumbag thief
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 7:25:40 AM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


Fuck that bastard.  I will never use his crap product.  






 
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 7:38:51 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I'd be ok with the mandate....... if the inventor would wave his rights and make it public domain.



Volvo did this with safety belts back in the day.
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 8:07:54 AM EDT
[#8]
I dont see how they can mandate these when they arent capable of cutting green wood
or treated wood.

hell leave some wood out in the rain and it wont like that either...
cant make a safety product mandatory if it doesnt work
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 10:01:33 AM EDT
[#9]
its been done before......the topic that is
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 10:17:01 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I dont see how they can mandate these when they arent capable of cutting green wood
or treated wood.

hell leave some wood out in the rain and it wont like that either...
cant make a safety product mandatory if it doesnt work


you mean like obamacare?
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 10:25:34 AM EDT
[#11]
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 10:27:29 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I dont see how they can mandate these when they arent capable of cutting green wood
or treated wood.

hell leave some wood out in the rain and it wont like that either...
cant make a safety product mandatory if it doesnt work


Easy.  They just do.
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 10:34:26 AM EDT
[#13]



Quoted:


I dont see how they can mandate these when they arent capable of cutting green wood

or treated wood.



hell leave some wood out in the rain and it wont like that either...

cant make a safety product mandatory if it doesnt work


My understanding is that there is an override that you activate when cutting conductive material.  But discovering that your green wood is conductive by having the SawStop tell you can be a costly bit of information....



 
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 10:36:25 AM EDT
[#14]
in before the Wiener demo
 
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 10:39:05 AM EDT
[#15]
I'm deathly afraid of losing fingers.  If I were to buy a table saw, I would want it to have a SawStop.  

That said, I think the guy is a douche.
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 10:46:41 AM EDT
[#16]


Joe Kehoe, a professional cabinetmaker in Anaheim, likes his SawStop table saw’s ability to stop its whirling blade an instant after the blade touches human flesh. He says he supports the state bill even though his personal politics call for reducing the size of government.



What's his ARFCom screenname?
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 10:50:01 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:


Joe Kehoe, a professional cabinetmaker in Anaheim, likes his SawStop table saw’s ability to stop its whirling blade an instant after the blade touches human flesh. He says he supports the state bill even though his personal politics call for reducing the size of government.



What's his ARFCom screenname?


That word, reducing, I do not think it means what you think it means.  
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 10:50:37 AM EDT
[#18]
This guy's been trying to force his product on the country since he finished working on it.



He knows nobody wants to buy a safety product that will ruin your equipment, possibly needlessly.
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 11:18:08 AM EDT
[#19]






Over the years, incidents like Dier’s have proved that SawStop works
reliably, yet all other manufacturers have thus far resisted licensing
the technology. Gass can recite a laundry list of reasons why his
competitors claim it can’t or shouldn’t be utilized on all saws, the
most vociferously offered argument being that it would give SawStop a
monopoly.




"It’s an argument that essentially says it’s unfair if SawStop gets
some kind of a boon from this. But to me it’s neither here nor there as
to whether it should be implemented from a societal standpoint,”
he
stresses. Gass points out that according to the U.S. Consumer Product
Safety Commission (CPSC) there are upwards of 40,000 table saw injuries a
year that require medical attention, accidents that cost society $2
billion in injury-related costs. With gross annual sales of table saws
in the $200-$300 million range, "these products are doing something like
ten times their purchase price in economic harm every year,” he begins.
"The injuries cost far more than it would cost to prevent them. If
[manufacturers] spent a little extra and put our technology—or something
like it—on their saws, you would get at least ten times the payback to
society.”










 
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 2:20:36 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:


Joe Kehoe, a professional cabinetmaker in Anaheim, likes his SawStop table saw’s ability to stop its whirling blade an instant after the blade touches human flesh. He says he supports the state bill even though his personal politics call for reducing the size of government.



What's his ARFCom screenname?


That word, reducing, I do not think it means what you think it means.  


Yes, blood sucking vampires need a stake in the heart, not a timeout.

Link Posted: 7/3/2012 3:18:14 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
I dont see how they can mandate these when they arent capable of cutting green wood
or treated wood.

hell leave some wood out in the rain and it wont like that either...
cant make a safety product mandatory if it doesnt work


California can.

And fuck crony capitalists.
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 3:33:17 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Attorney Inventor is pushing for legislation to make safety on table saws mandatory (there's that mandate word again)

Tech works.  Would add $75 to cost of $225-300 saws.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-sawstop-bill-20120703,0,6499509.story?track=rss


It's kind of like farmers lobbying the government to put ethanol in gasoline.
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 3:35:27 PM EDT
[#23]
Technology will never replace a push stick and being somewhat aware of where your fingers are in relation to the blade. Sometimes too many safety features make the operation unsafe, because they interfere with the work, and they give a false sense of security. Skill and situational awareness for the win!

BTW: Still have all 10.
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 4:07:22 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Technology will never replace a push stick and being somewhat aware of where your fingers are in relation to the blade. Sometimes too many safety features make the operation unsafe, because they interfere with the work, and they give a false sense of security. Skill and situational awareness for the win!

BTW: Still have all 10.


Just wait, what?  You mean you can take an inanimate object (AKA a scrap piece of wood) and use it to push the wood through the saw so when your push stick nicks the blade you do not lose any fingers?  Wow,  you better patent this common sense revolutionary item, i mean wow, what a concept.  


And this folks is whats wrong with society, why in the blue fuck can you not take a random scrap piece of wood and use it as a push stick?  Why in the fuck do i need to buy this high dollar device when a scrap piece of wood will work just fine.  

Fucking people.
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 4:24:09 PM EDT
[#25]
This fucking cum bucket.

Last I heard some cum guzzling democrat shit stain was writing a bill or introducing it in the CA legislature to mandate this shit in the state. I'd be surprised if it DIDN'T pass.
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 4:26:42 PM EDT
[#26]
If you know how to properly setup and use a tablesaw, you should never have a problem...
It's worth watching a video or two on how to properly opperate one...

I thought about getting a Sawstop...but then I found out about the asshole patent attorney...and that the saw is made in Taiwan...
So I bought an old Unisaw and rebuilt it...it's an awesome beast....and with the rebuild, new extension table and built in router table, I only have $1K into it...a LOT less than a new Sawstop...

If I had to buy a new tablesaw, I would buy the new Unisaw....made in America, including the castings...

Link Posted: 7/3/2012 4:31:04 PM EDT
[#27]
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 4:41:01 PM EDT
[#28]
If they want to make schools use these in wood shop.
Im all for it

Oh hell did I just date myself?
I remember junior high wood shop. Packing 20 kids in a small shop with multiple weapons of flesh destruction
Now I know why the teacher always smelled like booze.....stress medication
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 6:25:13 PM EDT
[#29]
The ignorance of the Saw Stop here is amazing!


The Saw Stop really works.  
You can cut green wood.
You can override the brake.
They don't just trip by themselves.


Yes the owner is a scumbag!
No I do not believe they should be mandatory.
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 6:26:52 PM EDT
[#30]



Quoted:

cant make a safety product mandatory if it doesnt work


That's the point of a lot of safety products. The only time you're 100% safe is when you're doing absolutely nothing.



 
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