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Posted: 12/28/2012 5:43:07 PM EDT
What's the consensus on these? I hear tack driver and I hear POS?

Tack driving piece of shit?
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 5:43:55 PM EDT
Mine is a 1moa tack driver. YMMV
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 5:44:33 PM EDT
Excellent rifles. Accu-Triggers are great
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 5:45:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 5:46:05 PM EDT by Tekpc007]
mine was well under 1 moa out of the box , stock sucks though. Bolt is a little rough but smooths out with use, I think i put a choate tactical stock on it. got out of 308 so sold it though...
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 5:48:28 PM EDT
Good guns. Accurate. Very good stock triggers. Easy to rebarrel. You'll want a different stock.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:01:43 PM EDT
Not a POS. who in the fuck thinks they are a POS?
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:09:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 6:09:57 PM EDT by Laramie]
As others have said, great rifle, great trigger, shitty stock. Look at the Choate, B&C for a nice decently priced upgrade.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:19:14 PM EDT
Just got one from Bud's. 5R fluted barrel in .308. First shots for record was 5 shots into 0.75" with less than 20 rounds down the tube. Don't know who got a shitty one but mine is great. Accutrigger is great. Stock could be better but I can live with it for now.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:27:22 PM EDT
I rate it a buy...
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:29:24 PM EDT
Excellent and barrel changes are very easy.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:30:06 PM EDT
10FP SR in B&C stock.


Tack Driver
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:31:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dcs12345:
Not a POS. who in the fuck thinks they are a POS?

That. Best out of the box accuracy you can find for the price you'll pay.


Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:35:42 PM EDT
Have a pre accutrigger one.. put a rifle-basix trigger in it. It is a tack driver.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:05:31 PM EDT
I purchased a beat up used one for 300. I put a new stock on it and had to shim the scope alot, figure thats why i got it so cheap. Anyway i put a vortex scope on it and called it my budget build.

It makes consistent hits at 700 yards. I have stretched to 800 but i was running out of daylight. I was amazed.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:08:56 PM EDT
They don't exude the same feeling of fine craftsmanship of many guns that they outshoot. If you're in it for the wine and cheese of it, skip the Savage. If you just want to reliably put bullets into stupid small groups for not a lotta clink, they're for you.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:21:54 PM EDT
Most intuitively designed bolt action there is, the barrel is user replaceable, the trigger is simple as anything, easy to change the bolt knob. You can pretty much get a custom gun without paying a gunsmith a dime.

Spend what you save on a good stock, Manners MCS-TA is my favorite, worth every bit of the $500
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:24:35 PM EDT
I have 3
a pre Accutrigger .308
and .223 & .308 Accutriger models all great rifles that came with crappy stocks but for the price all under $450 thats OK
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:25:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 7:30:07 PM EDT by freeride21a]
Mine is a freaking beast! It is more capable than I.

I have a 10FP-LE2 26"

Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:26:11 PM EDT
Love mine, but stock is shit.

Anyone got an tips on a standard monte-carlo style stock? I don't like that B&C thing with the widened forend, or the choate martian blaster thing....
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:28:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Bob243:
Have a pre accutrigger one.. put a rifle-basix trigger in it. It is a tack driver.


Hey, did you take my rifle?
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:32:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 7:34:22 PM EDT by Slayfan21]
got the 10FP-SR in .308

Trigger is great
Stock is meh
shoots about 3/4 MOA a little under sometimes

had some issues with extraction at first but the more I shoot it the better it gets

Just need a stock and a better scope and I think I might love it

Best group, till I pulled the 5th shoot
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:33:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 7:34:49 PM EDT by pasowino]
I just shot mine at the range today. It is a tack driver. Mine is sub-MOA and it really likes Hornady 168gr A-Max Match ammo. Mine is totally stock. The stock is OK, but it's fine for what I do with it. The bolt is a little finicky. It sticks a little when extracting some ammo. Today I was shooting Hornady 165gr GMX and it was catching a little. I threw a 168gr A-max in and it was like butter. Not sure what the deal is. Nonetheless, it's not a deal breaker for how accurate it is out of the box.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:39:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 7:43:17 PM EDT by Slayfan21]
Originally Posted By Rhino48:
Love mine, but stock is shit.

Anyone got an tips on a standard monte-carlo style stock? I don't like that B&C thing with the widened forend, or the choate martian blaster thing....


Bell and Carlson makes a monte Carlo stock as well

EDIT: I may be wrong
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:40:49 PM EDT
these are crazy accurate right out of the box , I have no problems with my original stock either.

Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:42:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Rhino48:
Love mine, but stock is shit.

Anyone got an tips on a standard monte-carlo style stock? I don't like that B&C thing with the widened forend, or the choate martian blaster thing....


QFT
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:42:57 PM EDT
I bought a like new / used Model 10FCP with HS Precision stock and accutrigger and with a Bushnell Elite 6500 mounted on it for a little over $1K. I am very happy with it.

I do need to stretch it out soon!
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:43:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 7:45:12 PM EDT by FMJshooter]
Originally Posted By dcs12345:
Not a POS. who in the fuck thinks they are a POS?


This!

Actions are aren't smoothest or the tightest on the market but they will drive tacks reliably.

I have a pre accutriigger thats got to be 15 years old that still shoots sub moa.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:43:16 PM EDT
I put mine in a Stockade Prairie Dog Special stock. It's probably one of the most accurate guns I've ever owned. Not too bad considering the rifle, stock, scope and all ran just shy of $1000.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:44:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 7:48:05 PM EDT by Mach]
Mine does this all day long at 100 yards.

3 x .308 Federal Gold Match




Savage 10FP-LE1

Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:45:02 PM EDT
What do they go for these days?
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:47:45 PM EDT
Guys that cant afford 5k AI rifles get Savage 10's and hang or win 1k yard matches at my range.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:49:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
What's the consensus on these? I hear tack driver and I hear POS?

Tack driving piece of shit?


Pieces of shit.



'05 10FP LE2b with 3000+ rds down the pipe.

Chris

Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:51:43 PM EDT
My wife bought me one last Valentines day with a cheap scope (Fudd package) for under $350 OTD.

As mentioned the stock sucks and is very flexible. Makes it a soft shooter though.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:51:58 PM EDT
I have an accu-trigger .223 and like others said the stock is complete garbage. I've seen better stocks on air rifles. That said, with an aftermarket stock and handloads this thing is surgically accurate. Buy it.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:52:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 7:52:57 PM EDT by Htown156]
Double Tap
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 8:00:51 PM EDT
Yeah... Total crap...

Just L@@K at these two shitty 100 yard groups.



Link Posted: 12/28/2012 8:15:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 8:32:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Slayfan21:
Originally Posted By Rhino48:
Love mine, but stock is shit.

Anyone got an tips on a standard monte-carlo style stock? I don't like that B&C thing with the widened forend, or the choate martian blaster thing....


Bell and Carlson makes a monte Carlo stock as well

EDIT: I may be wrong


The B&C Duramaxx would have fit the bill, but I don't think they make them anymore (plus they only fit the old staggered mag model iirc)
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 9:02:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dcs12345:
Originally Posted By Slayfan21:
Originally Posted By Rhino48:
Love mine, but stock is shit.

Anyone got an tips on a standard monte-carlo style stock? I don't like that B&C thing with the widened forend, or the choate martian blaster thing....


Bell and Carlson makes a monte Carlo stock as well

EDIT: I may be wrong


The B&C Duramaxx would have fit the bill, but I don't think they make them anymore (plus they only fit the old staggered mag model iirc)
http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/primary/195/195644.jpg



I think thats the stock I have.. previous owner put it on.

Link Posted: 12/28/2012 9:15:28 PM EDT
Mine is fantastically accurate chambered in 308win came with a choate stock.
Best group with hand loads is less than 3" at 500yards.



And my12 yo son driving.

Link Posted: 12/29/2012 8:09:10 AM EDT
I have the 10FCP with HS precision stock from the factory. Tack Driver.
Link Posted: 12/29/2012 8:14:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By robplumm:

Originally Posted By dcs12345:
Not a POS. who in the fuck thinks they are a POS?

That. Best out of the box accuracy you can find for the price you'll pay.




It's a cheap gun, but they put the money into a nice barrel and a nice trigger. Savages have always been sleepers. And you can afford to replace the stock. Buy it and be happy.

There are lots of $150 pawn shop Savages in rural Texas with $600 scopes on them because they work.
Link Posted: 12/29/2012 9:54:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2012 9:55:41 AM EDT by FightingHellfish]
I'm pretty much sold on the Savages.

The basic criticism that I hear from certain people in the precision rifle crowd is that, "they are accurate, but they are cheap, expect frequent failure of small parts and premature breakage."

Maybe that's just sour grapes because the Savages can run with or beat their more expensive rifles.
Link Posted: 12/29/2012 9:57:43 AM EDT
Never heard anyone call it a POS
Link Posted: 12/29/2012 10:00:56 AM EDT
I absolutely love mine, it's not going anywhere :)
Link Posted: 12/29/2012 10:06:05 AM EDT
I have a savage 10fp tactic rifle i bought back in 1999. I put an aftermarket boyds bro stock on it, a sharpshooter supply trigger, and it shoots under 1moa. For the length of the barrel (22 inches), its a really handy rifle.

Maybe ill have to pull it out of the safe and go shoot it, i havent shot it in years.
Link Posted: 12/29/2012 10:10:50 AM EDT
I've never heard anyone calling them a pos.

I'd love to have a Savage 10FCP with tha HS Precision stock. You're looking at about a grand for that rifle tho, and I just dont have it set aside in my toy fund right now. Maybe some time next year.
Link Posted: 12/29/2012 10:13:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2012 10:43:48 AM EDT by Kodan]
Originally Posted By BillyPumper:
I purchased a beat up used one for 300. I put a new stock on it and had to shim the scope alot, figure thats why i got it so cheap. Anyway i put a vortex scope on it and called it my budget build.

It makes consistent hits at 700 yards. I have stretched to 800 but i was running out of daylight. I was amazed.



I have one that I love but I think I have the same problem as you. Was it the front of the scope you had to shim? I had to come up 1.5 full rotations to get Zero at 100yrds. That gives me barely enough to get out past 600-700. Was thinking I need to shim the front ring. What say you?

ETA: My chamber was shallow and though factory stuff worked fine I couldnt hand load to fit the chamber. Even a previously fired casing. Had to grind down the base of the die to get a deeper sizing.

Link Posted: 12/29/2012 10:22:10 AM EDT
Best gun for the money.
Link Posted: 12/29/2012 3:04:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
I'm pretty much sold on the Savages.

The basic criticism that I hear from certain people in the precision rifle crowd is that, "they are accurate, but they are cheap, expect frequent failure of small parts and premature breakage."

Maybe that's just sour grapes because the Savages can run with or beat their more expensive rifles.


I own savage bolt guns as well as a couple of GA Precision rifles. The savages are definitely excellent guns for the money and i do like them. My prairie dog gun is a savage and i also have a 10fp as indicated above.

The difference between a savage and a GAP is repeatability. My GAPs are capable of repeatable and consistent groups. With a savage, you might shoot a 1/2 moa group here and there but a GAP can do it all the time.

Im currently doing load development with my GAP 338 LM and shot a 1/3 moa group (3 shot) during initial load development. With a little refinement im confident it wil maintain this and stay under 1/2 moa with 10 shot groups.

Bottom line, like all things in life, you get what you pay for, but for the money, you cannot beat a savage, hence why i own several of them.
Link Posted: 12/29/2012 5:51:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2012 5:54:37 PM EDT by Krink]

Originally Posted By LoganSackett:
Excellent rifles. Accu-Triggers are great

also been 100% reliable(no parts breakage) but I only have about 300rds through her
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