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Posted: 11/3/2009 6:47:20 AM EST
Did not see this posted elsewhere, soo....




RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to behead and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five children and leaving one of them to die in the desert, newspapers reported on Tuesday.

The convict was arrested earlier this year after a seven-year old boy helped police in their investigation. The child left in the desert after the rape was three years old, Okaz newspaper said.

International rights groups have accused the kingdom, the birthplace of Islam, of applying draconian justice, beheading murderers, rapists and drug traffickers in public. So far this year about 40 people have been executed in Saudi Arabia.

In Saudi Arabia, crucifixion means tying the body of the convict to wooden beams to be displayed to the public after beheading.




http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-43639120091103
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 6:47:40 AM EST
btw, i'm totally in favor of this
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 6:49:22 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 6:50:56 AM EST
I can say I totally agree with this. Nail 'em up I say.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 6:51:03 AM EST
Sounds good to me.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 6:54:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
wow

i disagree

crucify... THEN behead him.


Link Posted: 11/3/2009 6:56:55 AM EST
It is a bit on the crazy side, not sure if I condone it.

Will say this though.. that has got to be one POWERFULL deterrent to commiting such a crime. They don't screw around!
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:01:21 AM EST
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
wow

i disagree

crucify... THEN behead him.


Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:01:51 AM EST
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
wow

i disagree

crucify... THEN behead him.


Ayup, this.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:04:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By ctdemolay0405:
International rights groups have accused the kingdom, the birthplace of Islam, of applying draconian justice, beheading murderers, rapists and drug traffickers in public. So far this year about 40 people have been executed in Saudi Arabia.


Wow. Something I agree with the Saudis on.

What will be next? My voting for Obama?
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:04:32 AM EST
For once I agree with the Saudis.

Just skip the beheading.

Bet they don't have many child rapists in the Kingdom.

Certainly not the colonies of sex offenders we have here.

Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:05:38 AM EST
Even a broken clock...........
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:06:25 AM EST
yep
If he is guilty proceed as the judgement has ordered
If he got the screws put to him by a scared 7yr old that would be tragic.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:06:35 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:15:01 AM EST
IF he is guilty then - i agree completely, (can we add a random gunshot to one of the kneecaps also?)

IF he is not guilty - he is screwed and will serve as a lesson to people who would do something like this.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:17:54 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:19:57 AM EST
No problem here either... pouring boiling oil over him would work for me too.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:20:44 AM EST
Originally Posted By MetalChef:
It is a bit on the crazy side, not sure if I condone it.

Will say this though.. that has got to be one POWERFULL deterrent to commiting such a crime. They don't screw nail around!




Fixed, sort of!

Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:23:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2009 7:24:51 AM EST by Roland3]
i say cut is balls off and let him bleed out, then stop the bleeding right before he dies, fix him up in a hospital for couple weeks then strap him down and CNC machine and mill of .005 " cuts with a 6inch insert cutter until his fucking head is gone
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:25:26 AM EST
I'm all for it. I wish they would record it and post it on the internet.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:27:42 AM EST
Originally Posted By ctdemolay0405:
Did not see this posted elsewhere, soo....




RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to behead and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five children and leaving one of them to die in the desert, newspapers reported on Tuesday.

The convict was arrested earlier this year after a seven-year old boy helped police in their investigation. The child left in the desert after the rape was three years old, Okaz newspaper said.

International rights groups have accused the kingdom, the birthplace of Islam, of applying draconian justice, beheading murderers, rapists and drug traffickers in public. So far this year about 40 people have been executed in Saudi Arabia.

In Saudi Arabia, crucifixion means tying the body of the convict to wooden beams to be displayed to the public after beheading.




http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-43639120091103


WHERE IS THE BAD IN THIS?!!?!?!?!?!!?!?
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:28:19 AM EST
Well, guess he won't do that shit again.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:30:28 AM EST
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
wow

i disagree

crucify... THEN behead him.


Just what I was thinking. Perhaps they could suspend the beheading sentence...?
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:33:07 AM EST
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
If they had a fair and unbiased legal system (i.e. what generates the convictions), then I'd be totally in favor of crucifixion and THEN beheading for child rapists and murderers.

But, given the current Saudi system, I'd hate to be a woman, for example, who was accused of child murder or sexual abuse, by some Saudi religious cleric or rich "prince" or other powerful person.


+1

Never take what the Saudis, Iranians, or the Russians say at face value. That ought to be the first lesson in GeoPolitics 101 in college these days.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:35:36 AM EST
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
wow

i disagree

crucify... THEN behead him.


Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:37:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By Roland3:
i say cut is balls off and let him bleed out, then stop the bleeding right before he dies, fix him up in a hospital for couple weeks then strap him down and CNC machine and mill of .005 " cuts with a 6inch insert cutter until his fucking head is gone


....and 6 years later you found out he was innocent.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:48:07 AM EST
What, no beat down first? No caning? Oh well, at least he won't have parole as an option...
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:50:47 AM EST
Nice. Kind of insulting to me though. The crucifiction is too much because its just a PR stunt.

Beheading is enough.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:51:44 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:52:15 AM EST
Even a werewolfe deserves a fair trial. Then, well, Vlad the Impaler was really on to something with his technique for public executions. His victims actually lived for a while after being put up on display.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:52:58 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:54:10 AM EST
I'm kind of pro blow torch therapy.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:54:53 AM EST
I would be in greater support of the good, old fashioned crucifixion - without the beheading. They said it was a very slow, agonizing way to die. Sometimes took a few days.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:55:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
wow

i disagree

crucify... THEN behead him.


Above.


So you have no qualms about the fact that "justice" in most Middle Eastern countries is pretty elusive, and the guy may have been innocent?
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:57:02 AM EST
Can we send our rapists and murderers over there to stand trial?
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:57:25 AM EST
I approve
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 7:57:47 AM EST
Political crimes? Exile. This? Insufficently unpleasant.


God is Great!
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 8:00:02 AM EST
The punishment fits all right! As others pointed out it is backwards though, crucifiction THEN beheading would be better!

However I found this a bit off:

The convict was arrested earlier this year after a seven-year old boy helped police in their investigation.


I can't really imagine the Saudis having a CSI team running all over the place. Did it only take a testimony of a 7 year old boy to condemn this guy?
I am trying to dig up more on the trail. I am interested in learning a bit more about how he was convicted. Theres something about beheaded guys that makes filing an appeal a bit difficult.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 8:02:21 AM EST
Beheaded and crucified for raping a child - I have no problem with that. The sorry POS is just using up good air that someone else could be breathing. I wonder how many "activists" would have a different opinion if the child that got raped was theirs?
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 8:03:14 AM EST
Originally Posted By Roland3:
i say cut is balls off and let him bleed out, then stop the bleeding right before he dies, fix him up in a hospital for couple weeks then strap him down and CNC machine and mill of .005 " cuts with a 6inch insert cutter until his fucking head is gone


The Nazis would have loved you. You would have out done Mengele.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 8:05:09 AM EST
I feel tempted to say we as people should be more civilized than to have to do this and yet at the same time, what he did––if it is indeed true––is so inexcusable. To leave damn near babies out to die in the desert.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 8:08:29 AM EST
You guys are all wrong. This is another instance in which the White House should intervene and have people over for some beers.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 8:17:28 AM EST
For child molesters/rapists of any kind, I favor impalement. The old way, where they'd stick a blunt spike in place (guess where!!), hoist the stake up, and let body weight slowly carry out the "penetration".
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:03:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2009 10:12:57 AM EST by Roland3]
Originally Posted By agillig:

Originally Posted By Roland3:
i say cut is balls off and let him bleed out, then stop the bleeding right before he dies, fix him up in a hospital for couple weeks then strap him down and CNC machine and mill of .005 " cuts with a 6inch insert cutter until his fucking head is gone


....and 6 years later you found out he was innocent.


well, then bye
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:07:07 AM EST
If I had more confidence in the ability of Saudi courts to protect the rights of the accused, then I'd have no problem with this.

But in Saudi Arabia this "conviction" could just as well be due to the fact the guy got on the wrong side of the wrong people, not that he actually diddled little kids.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:07:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
If they had a fair and unbiased legal system (i.e. what generates the convictions), then I'd be totally in favor of crucifixion and THEN beheading for child rapists and murderers.

But, given the current Saudi system, I'd hate to be a woman, for example, who was accused of child murder or sexual abuse, by some Saudi religious cleric or rich "prince" or other powerful person.

Wow. Great minds think alike, and all that.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:08:40 AM EST


I second this!
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
wow

i disagree

crucify... THEN behead him.


Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:16:16 AM EST
Guilty or innocent?

Don't know and can't do anything about it, but I wish to God mu government do do something similar to scare the fuck out of the scum roaming the streets of this country and make them think very carefully about the consequences of their action.

A few executions being shown on prime time TV and then, maybe, my world will be a safer place for children.

Personally I'd lash them with barbed wire whips then roll them in salt then lash them again and keep on until they bleed out or their heart goes, but maybe I'm too fucking liberal......
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:19:44 AM EST
This is absolute bullshit. Beheading someone before crucifixion defeats the purpose of the crucifixion. And they're not even using nails. The ancient Romans are rolling over in their ashes.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:51:50 AM EST
Time for us to outsource our executions? anyone?
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:54:37 AM EST
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