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Posted: 7/27/2013 11:04:13 AM EDT
I searched the internet, but was unable to find if the Sandy Hook evidence was ever unsealed.  I am interested to find out if the evidence supported the news and government narrative or if it supported everyone that claimed an AR15 was not used.  Just like everyone else, I have no interest in the pictures I would just like to know if an AR was used.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 11:06:12 AM EDT
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I searched the internet, but was unable to find if the Sandy Hook evidence was ever unsealed.  I am interested to find out if the evidence supported the news and government narrative or if it supported everyone that claimed an AR15 was not used.  Just like everyone else, I have no interest in the pictures I would just like to know if an AR was used.
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Of course not. If it was, they would have paraded the pictures of him holding it at the front door.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 11:06:33 AM EDT
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It's my understanding that everything has been sealed and will remain sealed.

Link Posted: 7/27/2013 11:06:46 AM EDT
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Those records and accounts of what really happened there will never be released.  The world will never know.



I would just advise you to give up on Sandy Hook.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 11:07:46 AM EDT
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Of course not. If it was, they would have paraded the pictures of him holding it at the front door.
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I searched the internet, but was unable to find if the Sandy Hook evidence was ever unsealed.  I am interested to find out if the evidence supported the news and government narrative or if it supported everyone that claimed an AR15 was not used.  Just like everyone else, I have no interest in the pictures I would just like to know if an AR was used.


Of course not. If it was, they would have paraded the pictures of him holding it at the front door.



Yep. If such a picture existed it would have been posted everywhere.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 11:12:15 AM EDT
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Maybe someday, long after our great great grandchildren have died of old age.

By then though, it'll just bee a footnote on some History Channel documentary.


Link Posted: 7/27/2013 11:54:38 AM EDT
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Long gun was not used, it was locked in the trunk
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The weapon in the trunk was clearly a shotgun.

That being said, I still don't believe that it happened the way they say it did. To much is being hidden.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 12:04:46 PM EDT
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The weapon in the trunk was clearly a shotgun.

That being said, I still don't believe that it happened the way they say it did. To much is being hidden.
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The weapon in the trunk was clearly a shotgun.

That being said, I still don't believe that it happened the way they say it did. To much is being hidden.



There is a "two long guns removed from trunk" video. It's back and to the left grainy, but it's there.

I think ar proof would have been leaked days after.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 12:07:37 PM EDT
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The weapon in the trunk was clearly a shotgun.

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The weapon in the trunk was clearly a shotgun.

That being said, I still don't believe that it happened the way they say it did. To much is being hidden.


You probably saw this video: Which I agree is a shotgun


Have you seen this one? It is full of WTF





So there is a video of a team fully dressed and pulling evidence and a video of a cop with no gloves or anything clearing a shotgun.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 12:10:04 PM EDT
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What would be the reason to withhold evidence and the facts in this case.  NOT politcal reasons but legal reason?  Is this legal?  Why not FOIA or sue for it?  Fuck .gov.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 12:25:11 PM EDT
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The big problem.  The CT general Assembly add an amendment into the budget they passed on the last day of session. It blocks the release of pictures and videos of the event.

Plus the CGA has been trying to pass laws to further restrict foi requests.  The ruling party has been trying to remove as much transparency and oversight.


The possible good news?  I think several news agencies are taking action.

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Link Posted: 7/27/2013 12:28:27 PM EDT
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My $.02 is there will be a "leak" right after gun control is brought back up again as an issue.

Dems are the masters of controlling the release of media to shape opinion on pending legislation.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 12:32:48 PM EDT
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To increase mass hysteria and use the opportunity to ram gun-control down everyone's throats.

If they release the information then it would become obvious that it's a case of "Incident involving firearms A, B & C... so let's ban firearm D that had nothing to do with it."

Link Posted: 7/27/2013 12:48:43 PM EDT
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You probably saw this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLrxSgkqJQcWhich I agree is a shotgun


Have you seen this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7lCrMkyuxEIt is full of WTF





So there is a video of a team fully dressed and pulling evidence and a video of a cop with no gloves or anything clearing a shotgun.
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Long gun was not used, it was locked in the trunk


The weapon in the trunk was clearly a shotgun.

That being said, I still don't believe that it happened the way they say it did. To much is being hidden.


You probably saw this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLrxSgkqJQcWhich I agree is a shotgun


Have you seen this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7lCrMkyuxEIt is full of WTF





So there is a video of a team fully dressed and pulling evidence and a video of a cop with no gloves or anything clearing a shotgun.



Damn, I really wish that video was clearer.

I remember hearing that the school had just upgraded it's security system, including a camera on the front door where this sick fuck supposedly entered.

I still believe that if he came through that door holding an "evil assault weapon" the gov would've made sure that the picture/video was plastered all over the TV. We all saw how quick a picture of the guy in Cali was released.
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Damn, I really wish that video was clearer.

I remember hearing that the school had just upgraded it's security system, including a camera on the front door where this sick fuck supposedly entered.

I still believe that if he came through that door holding an "evil assault weapon" the gov would've made sure that the picture/video was plastered all over the TV. We all saw how quick a picture of the guy in Cali was released.
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This exactly. All the blocking of information, and the fact we haven't seen a picture of Lanza at least holding the damn thing makes it obvious.

I've never seen that video, but, to me, it looks like the guy is trying to be "sneaky" with whatever hes pulled out of the trunk.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 12:57:52 PM EDT
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Gun control was a huge defeat for Obama and the dems. The political capital they spent on pushing this go round was all for naught.

The current move is against lawful self defense.

I don't think we will see another gun control push till after mid terms.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 12:59:59 PM EDT
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I'm not a Hooker (Sandy Hook truther) but I can not understand why so much information about the incident is suppressed.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 1:00:52 PM EDT
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Gun control was a huge defeat for Obama and the dems. The political capital they spent on pushing this go round was all for naught.

The current move is against lawful self defense.

I don't think we will see another gun control push till after mid terms.
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Stock up on those Pmags...


Link Posted: 7/27/2013 1:06:47 PM EDT
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The only answer that makes sense is that they're lying about something. We just don't know what part.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 1:09:30 PM EDT
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The only answer that makes sense is that they're lying about something. We just don't know what part.
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The only answer that makes sense is that they're lying about something. We just don't know what part.

Link Posted: 7/27/2013 1:17:26 PM EDT
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There is footage of the shooters at Columbine High School in 1999. Sandy Hook Elementary supposedly installed a high tech security system. 13 years later and video cameras are everywhere and there is no pics or video.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 1:27:23 PM EDT
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A silly question............ But were any students wounded at sandy hook? I've heard of a few teachers being wounded, but even that was not widely broadcast........  they make it seem like there were no survivors........ Just pure wholesale carnage!
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 1:32:14 PM EDT
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The weapon in the trunk was clearly a shotgun.

That being said, I still don't believe that it happened the way they say it did. To much is being hidden.
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The weapon in the trunk was clearly a shotgun.

That being said, I still don't believe that it happened the way they say it did. To much is being hidden.


if a assault rifle was used, they would have had it on display with all the mags  on a table for a press conference.
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A silly question............ But were any students wounded at sandy hook? I've heard of a few teachers being wounded, but even that was not widely broadcast........  they make it seem like there were no survivors........ Just pure wholesale carnage!
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No children that were shot survived. One was transported to the ER but as I understand did not have much of a chance and passed.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 1:58:34 PM EDT
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for the first 24 hours the police kept saying he used 3 handguns, who in the blue blazes can not tell rifle brass from pistol brass
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Be better off researching the Kennedy assassination the summer of 1963
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 4:07:58 PM EDT
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Anon would be the only one to ever show the pic
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 4:11:48 PM EDT
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FIFY. The media is the one who hyped the handguns not rifle for the first 24 hours. The Connecticut State Police, the ones tasked with investigating, were consistent in saying from day one that it was a rifle that was used to kill the students/faculty at Sandy Hook.

The state police were supposed to release an investigation report a month or two ago, but they suddenly reversed that decision and claimed that they'd release it in the fall (or when ever its politically expedient to do so).
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 4:23:40 PM EDT
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They're just trying to find more Airsoft guns to take pictures of like they did in Santa Monica.
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The Coroner kept insisting all the deaths were caused by rifle bullets.
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The Coroner kept insisting all the deaths were caused by rifle bullets.
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The Coroner kept insisting all the deaths were caused by rifle bullets.



I wouldn't believe that idiot if he told me the sky was blue and the grass was green. He acted like he was on something at that press conference.


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No... reported quoted "police sources."  Coulda been somebody with 3rd hand info.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 5:01:47 PM EDT
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I seriously doubt that the people who don't think an AR was used would be convinced by a picture of Lanza carrying one through the door.  I think that because there was another shooting where they did release a picture of the guy carrying an AR through the door and the same people still didn't believe it.        
 
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 5:04:35 PM EDT
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I seriously doubt that the people who don't think an AR was used would be convinced by a picture of Lanza carrying one through the door.  I think that because there was another shooting where they did release a picture of the guy carrying an AR through the door and the same people still didn't believe it.          
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So. . . the Connecticut authorities are in a fit of pique over the attitude of some guys at ArfCom and therefore won't release any evidence from the attack? Is that what you're saying?
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 5:07:56 PM EDT
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I'm not a troother, but I agree the details of the story are being buried for the sake of politics.

That's SOP at this point though- Jared Loughner is a died in the wool lefty anti-theist democrat and the media and the local DA did a fucking chinese fire drill on burying that story once the facts started leaking out.





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I seriously doubt that the people who don't think an AR was used would be convinced by a picture of Lanza carrying one through the door.  I think that because there was another shooting where they did release a picture of the guy carrying an AR through the door and the same people still didn't believe it.          






So. . . the Connecticut authorities are in a fit of pique over the attitude of some guys at ArfCom and therefore won't release any evidence from the attack? Is that what you're saying?
No.  I'm saying the troofers are full of shit.



 
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The Saiga was in the trunk. A Bushmaster was recovered inside the school.
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The Saiga was in the trunk. A Bushmaster was recovered inside the school.
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sorry truthers.  sometimes there just isnt a conspiracy
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 5:47:59 PM EDT
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Na- a troofer would say there was no massacre.  The folks asking why the abundant forensic evidence supporting the official line is being withheld are simply healthy skeptics.  Since the national administration tried to use the event as a springboard for disenfranchising them from their rights I'd say it's a fair line of questioning.

Sorry line towers, we're going to keep asking questions, resisting rollbacks of our rights and not buying the official line without being presented with hard evidence.


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No. That was a Saiga.
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 7:04:29 PM EDT
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Na- a troofer would say there was no massacre.  The folks asking why the abundant forensic evidence supporting the official line is being withheld are simply healthy skeptics.  Since the national administration tried to use the event as a springboard for disenfranchising them from their rights I'd say it's a fair line of questioning.

Sorry line towers, we're going to keep asking questions, resisting rollbacks of our rights and not buying the official line without being presented with hard evidence.


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sorry truthers.  sometimes there just isnt a conspiracy


Na- a troofer would say there was no massacre.  The folks asking why the abundant forensic evidence supporting the official line is being withheld are simply healthy skeptics.  Since the national administration tried to use the event as a springboard for disenfranchising them from their rights I'd say it's a fair line of questioning.

Sorry line towers, we're going to keep asking questions, resisting rollbacks of our rights and not buying the official line without being presented with hard evidence.




I'm officially putting in a recommendation to the mods to grant you pre-election 12er status, complete with new join date and a post count padded to reflect the earlier date.

With this administration, with that shooting, with no evidence, nothing coming out, we have not only a right, but a duty to ask questions and demand answers, especially since they are doing everything they can to avoid releasing any evidence other than their very shaky word.

Yes, a massacre happened, but there is too much speculation as to what was used. If the AR15 had been used, we all know they would have paraded in front of the nation. It would have been on the desk of a congressional debate to take these things from us. The fact that it was not, tells me all I need to know. That was their best , and most likely successful chance to get rid of these guns. Yet the most explosive piece of evidence they could have used, was not used.

It's bullshit.
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Actually, you're not being entirely truthful with that point if you're referring to the shooting in CA where the shooter supposedly used an 80% lower.
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The only answer that makes sense is that they're lying about something. We just don't know what part.
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I'm not a Hooker (Sandy Hook truther) but I can not understand why so much information about the incident is suppressed.



The only answer that makes sense is that they're lying about something. We just don't know what part.

This
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An AR with:

1.No hammer pin.

2.No trigger pin.

3.No selector.

4.Abnormal overall appearance.

5.A strange, third hole above the grip that resembles the battery charging port of an Airsoft.

They also stated he had a Colt Double Eagle...which was a cheap, S&Wish Airsoft.




ETA:Here is proof that the pistol is fake.

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My $.02 is there will be a "leak" right after gun control is brought back up again as an issue.



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I'd expect a leak of photos of the scene & the bodies, to be honest. I'm actually surprised they didn't play that nuclear option on the last go-round. By dem standards that's pretty classy of them.



 
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I seriously doubt that the people who don't think an AR was used would be convinced by a picture of Lanza carrying one through the door.  I think that because there was another shooting where they did release a picture of the guy carrying an AR through the door and the same people still didn't believe it.        




Actually, you're not being entirely truthful with that point if you're referring to the shooting in CA where the shooter supposedly used an 80% lower.
I highlighted the part that proves my point.  They released a picture of the guy carrying an AR in the building and look at the goalposts as they go by.



 
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An AR with:



1.No hammer pin.



2.No trigger pin.



3.No selector.



4.Abnormal overall appearance.



5.A strange, third hole above the grip that resembles the battery charging port of an Airsoft.



They also stated he had a Colt Double Eagle...which was a cheap, S&Wish Airsoft.



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I think that because there was another shooting where they did release a picture of the guy carrying an AR through the door and the same people still didn't believe it.


An AR with:



1.No hammer pin.



2.No trigger pin.



3.No selector.



4.Abnormal overall appearance.



5.A strange, third hole above the grip that resembles the battery charging port of an Airsoft.



They also stated he had a Colt Double Eagle...which was a cheap, S&Wish Airsoft.



http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/gallery/thumb.php?src=/export/home/cc-common/mlib/616/06/616_13711836195.jpg&wmax=670&hmax=503&quality=80

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He must have some kind of superpowers to murder people with a toy gun.



 
Link Posted: 7/27/2013 7:24:01 PM EDT
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Let me be very specific - the coroner report stated all of the injuries except Lanza's shot to the head were done by a high powered rifle round.

One of my friends is a CT State Police tactical leader who was there - he said SHES had expended 5.56 casings everywhere.

I grew up in Newtown, graduated Newtown, and this is very raw.

It did happen, they were not actors, there is no fucking conspiracy, Lanza worked alone and yes he used a fucking AR to kill everyone but himself.
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Let me be very specific - the coroner report stated all of the injuries except Lanza's shot to the head were done by a high powered rifle round.



One of my friends is a CT State Police tactical leader who was there - he said SHES had expended 5.56 casings everywhere.



I grew up in Newtown, graduated Newtown, and this is very raw.



It did happen, they were not actors, there is no fucking conspiracy, Lanza worked alone and yes he used a fucking AR to kill everyone but himself.
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Believe me, even if they released a video of the shootings, the troofers would call it fake.  Because most of them are idiots or are completely batshit crazy.



 
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No matter what you believe, there is no denying the fact that the gov is lying here.

Those are not real guns. You know this; you have 10,000+ posts on a site dedicated to that rifle.
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