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Posted: 10/5/2005 2:58:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2005 4:23:55 PM EDT by AmericanPatriot1776]
Looking at two revolvers for occasional carry or fun shooting. Mostly for fun shooting.

S&W 686, stainless steel, 4 inch barrel, 357 mag with box, adjustable sights, used but in near perfect conditon for $415.

or..........

New Ruger GP100, Stainless steel, 357 mag, box, fixed sights, papers, new, 3 inch barrel for $475.

What one has a better reputation? Which one is better built? Accuracy expectations?

I am 6'4" and go about 290 lbs. I have med-large hands. Any comments would be appreciated.

If you can point me to any articles online that go into detail about these two fine guns, I would appreciate it.

UPDATE

IF Cost was not an issue, which one is better?
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 3:02:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2005 3:04:16 PM EDT by Max_Mike]
I like both pistols but it is no contest... 686 and pocket the cash.

The 686 is better of the 2 pistols.

ETA: I would never pay that for a GP100 just to much for that pistol
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 3:15:54 PM EDT
both of course.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 3:18:01 PM EDT
686 all the way. My first handgun was my 686, I love it. Mine was a local cops piece (very well taken care of), looks awesome, shoots great, and is my only wheel gun. Ocassionaly I break out the dremel and buff the hell out of her. My Dad has a Ruger "security six" .357 which is nice, but doesn't have the same "feel", not as heavy duty IMO. I paid $400 for mine and it came with a Galco holster and 2 speed loaders with a leather carry case. I wouldn't sell it for $1000
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 3:18:34 PM EDT
You can buy a decent shape GP100 for $249 at SOG. 4inch hammerless model.

I bought my GP100 NIB for $350 so look for the deals out there. You will not get a more solid gun then the GP. Reliable and accurate. Its my only wheel gun.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 3:19:47 PM EDT
686 all the way.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 3:32:08 PM EDT
I like the GP100. I just wish they had the 4" blued model in .357
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 3:35:52 PM EDT
Both are good guns that will last a lifetime, but the S+W 686 has a much better trigger.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:00:08 PM EDT
686

Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:04:00 PM EDT
GP100 !
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:05:21 PM EDT
I used to own a GP and they are nice shooting guns, with that said that is way to much for a used one. Now new I could understand but not used.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:06:12 PM EDT
686, no question. Owned two.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:08:02 PM EDT
Ruger is good.

686 is much better
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:09:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:09:44 PM EDT


+1 for the 686. You will like it's lines and trigger a lot better.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:09:50 PM EDT
Try each and see which you prefer. As the folks said above, the 686 has a better trigger, but either can be slicked up by a smith into excellent trigger pulls.

The GP100 by design and construction is a bit stronger and more robust. The 686 has a simpler trigger mechanism that lends itself to better shooting and easier tuning.

I personally have a 4" stainless KGP-141 and love it.

Btw, as stated above, that is WAY too much for a Ruger GP100 series. I paid $325 for mine used in great shape.

Honestly, both the 686 and GP100 are great pistols that will last a life time. Hard to go wrong with either.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:10:14 PM EDT
686 not even a question. That is way to much for a gp100
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:11:03 PM EDT
Much a I dislike Smith,go with the 686.Bought me new 6" one for $360 a few years back.Right after I bought a 4" for $399,and thought THAT was a screaming deal.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:15:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By XDTom40:
686, no question. Owned two.



+100

HH
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:26:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:29:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AmericanPatriot1776:

UPDATE

IF Cost was not an issue, which one is better?



Still the 686.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:32:00 PM EDT
+1 for the 686
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:32:12 PM EDT
Too much $ for the GP, but they are built like a tank and will last the lifetime of you and your kids.
686 has a better trigger no question but not as rugged IMHO. In this case, Smith and buy some ammo with the differance.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:38:59 PM EDT
While doing gunsmith work over the past 15 yrs or so I saw many more S&W revolvers come into the shop than Rugers. The Smith will probably have a nicer trigger, and a smoother action though. I hated Bill Ruger's politics, but he did design and produce some robust designs.

I have a Ruger SP101 in the bedroom closet right now!


Balming
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:40:17 PM EDT
A revolver rarely gets shot to the point of being completely broken in,never mind wore out so there is no point buying new unless one can't find the model or barrel length desired .
The GP is a good general purpose revolver. The S&W is a finely ballanced, highly accurate,truly wonderfull revolver with a wonderfull action and trigger. The S&W will have a better resale value and aftermarket springs,acessories,and grips are more available .
This is really a no brainer,buy the 686!
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:49:08 PM EDT
still the 686 regardless of price.

My $.02
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:53:08 PM EDT
If you reload, the GP100 is better at handling a large number of maximum [safe] loads.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:58:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2005 4:58:48 PM EDT by Max_Mike]

Originally Posted By AmericanPatriot1776:

UPDATE

IF Cost was not an issue, which one is better?



The 686 hands down is the better pistol.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 4:58:51 PM EDT
586 !!!

Link Posted: 10/5/2005 5:00:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AmericanPatriot1776:
Looking at two revolvers for occasional carry or fun shooting. Mostly for fun shooting.

S&W 686, stainless steel, 4 inch barrel, 357 mag with box, adjustable sights, used but in near perfect conditon for $415.

or..........

New Ruger GP100, Stainless steel, 357 mag, box, fixed sights, papers, new, 3 inch barrel for $475.

What one has a better reputation? Which one is better built? Accuracy expectations?

I am 6'4" and go about 290 lbs. I have med-large hands. Any comments would be appreciated.

If you can point me to any articles online that go into detail about these two fine guns, I would appreciate it.

UPDATE

IF Cost was not an issue, which one is better?



OK. It has nothing to do with cost. The 686 is the finest .357 in the world, IMO. There is only one option here, and it's not Ruger.

There's no comparison.

HH
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 5:18:13 PM EDT
Absotively posilutely the 686, I've had 4 of them over the years. The 4" 686 that I acquired when I was 18 is the only handgun that I've never gotten rid of, it's awesome!!!
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 5:20:40 PM EDT
686--not even a contest
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 5:51:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:

Originally Posted By AmericanPatriot1776:
Looking at two revolvers for occasional carry or fun shooting. Mostly for fun shooting.

S&W 686, stainless steel, 4 inch barrel, 357 mag with box, adjustable sights, used but in near perfect conditon for $415.

or..........

New Ruger GP100, Stainless steel, 357 mag, box, fixed sights, papers, new, 3 inch barrel for $475.

What one has a better reputation? Which one is better built? Accuracy expectations?

I am 6'4" and go about 290 lbs. I have med-large hands. Any comments would be appreciated.

If you can point me to any articles online that go into detail about these two fine guns, I would appreciate it.

UPDATE

IF Cost was not an issue, which one is better?



OK. It has nothing to do with cost. The 686 is the finest .357 in the world, IMO. There is only one option here, and it's not Ruger.

There's no comparison.

HH



If you are talking finest regardless of cost, there is no contest. COLT PYTHON.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 5:53:31 PM EDT
I absolutely hate it when people update a thread and dont say what page it's on.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 5:57:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
I absolutely hate it when people update a thread and dont say what page it's on.



I know, its so hard to search for an update on 2 whole pages!
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 6:28:02 PM EDT
GP100............but you can find them cheaper
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 6:51:13 PM EDT
Find a 4" Colt Trooper Mk III. You'll never regret it.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 7:07:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Chokey:

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
I absolutely hate it when people update a thread and dont say what page it's on.



I know, its so hard to search for an update on 2 whole pages!




That's fine on a two page thread. Is this thread finished?

Do you like re-reading six page threads? Ten page threads?

Bite me dickhead.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 7:15:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDOC:

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:

Originally Posted By AmericanPatriot1776:
Looking at two revolvers for occasional carry or fun shooting. Mostly for fun shooting.

S&W 686, stainless steel, 4 inch barrel, 357 mag with box, adjustable sights, used but in near perfect conditon for $415.

or..........

New Ruger GP100, Stainless steel, 357 mag, box, fixed sights, papers, new, 3 inch barrel for $475.

What one has a better reputation? Which one is better built? Accuracy expectations?

I am 6'4" and go about 290 lbs. I have med-large hands. Any comments would be appreciated.

If you can point me to any articles online that go into detail about these two fine guns, I would appreciate it.

UPDATE

IF Cost was not an issue, which one is better?



OK. It has nothing to do with cost. The 686 is the finest .357 in the world, IMO. There is only one option here, and it's not Ruger.

There's no comparison.

HH



If you are talking finest regardless of cost, there is no contest. COLT PYTHON.



Quality, yes a Python is the best. But it has one major flaw, the cylinder release is backwards which is ackward. I've shot many thousands of rounds trhu a python, so this isn't speculation on my part. You can't reload as fast.

My vote is still the 686, one of the best revolvers ever made.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 7:18:29 PM EDT
The 686 will have a nicer Factory Trigger pull.

The Ruger GP100 will last longer.

Take your pick.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 7:20:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By postpostban:

Originally Posted By ARDOC:

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:

Originally Posted By AmericanPatriot1776:
Looking at two revolvers for occasional carry or fun shooting. Mostly for fun shooting.

S&W 686, stainless steel, 4 inch barrel, 357 mag with box, adjustable sights, used but in near perfect conditon for $415.

or..........

New Ruger GP100, Stainless steel, 357 mag, box, fixed sights, papers, new, 3 inch barrel for $475.

What one has a better reputation? Which one is better built? Accuracy expectations?

I am 6'4" and go about 290 lbs. I have med-large hands. Any comments would be appreciated.

If you can point me to any articles online that go into detail about these two fine guns, I would appreciate it.

UPDATE

IF Cost was not an issue, which one is better?



OK. It has nothing to do with cost. The 686 is the finest .357 in the world, IMO. There is only one option here, and it's not Ruger.

There's no comparison.

HH



If you are talking finest regardless of cost, there is no contest. COLT PYTHON.



Quality, yes a Python is the best. But it has one major flaw, the cylinder release is backwards which is ackward. I've shot many thousands of rounds trhu a python, so this isn't speculation on my part. You can't reload as fast.

My vote is still the 686, one of the best revolvers ever made.


The other major flaw about the Python is that the company that makes them doesn't give a rats ass about making products that people want to buy. I gave up trying to get a new Python after a year of trying. I guess Colt would rather go out of business than supply things that people want to pay for.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 7:26:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDOC:

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:

Originally Posted By AmericanPatriot1776:
Looking at two revolvers for occasional carry or fun shooting. Mostly for fun shooting.

S&W 686, stainless steel, 4 inch barrel, 357 mag with box, adjustable sights, used but in near perfect conditon for $415.

or..........

New Ruger GP100, Stainless steel, 357 mag, box, fixed sights, papers, new, 3 inch barrel for $475.

What one has a better reputation? Which one is better built? Accuracy expectations?

I am 6'4" and go about 290 lbs. I have med-large hands. Any comments would be appreciated.

If you can point me to any articles online that go into detail about these two fine guns, I would appreciate it.

UPDATE

IF Cost was not an issue, which one is better?



OK. It has nothing to do with cost. The 686 is the finest .357 in the world, IMO. There is only one option here, and it's not Ruger.

There's no comparison.

HH



If you are talking finest regardless of cost, there is no contest. COLT PYTHON.



DOC,

If they start making them again for us...then yes. But as an "affordable" best .357, the 686 wins.

HH
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 7:27:03 PM EDT
$475 for a Ruger GP-100 is kinda high even if it is new.

Both guns are decent, the S&W will typically have a nicer trigger and be more accurate but those GP's are beasts.

If the 686 you are looking at has the firing pin floated on the hammer get it. If it's one of the more recent models with the firing pin in the frame it really doesn't matter much. IMHO.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 7:51:27 PM EDT
686 for the range and GP100 for cracking open coconuts with the butt and shootin' crocs.

GunLvr
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 8:06:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bostonterrier97:
The 686 will have a nicer Factory Trigger pull.

The Ruger GP100 will last longer.

Take your pick.



You actually know of a case where a 686 wore out... if you do I would like to hear about it.

Either revolver with minimal care is going to last several lifetimes.
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