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Posted: 9/15/2009 9:51:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 10:37:24 AM EST by maddog_enigma]
I'm wanting to get one of these in 10 shot version.

I can't decide on barrel length. For those unfamiliar, it is available in either a 4 or 6" configuration.

This will be used for shooting .22LR (of course) but I also plan to use some longs, shorts, or even CBs on my personal, indoor basement range for plinking and punching paper (what the hell else would you do with a .22?)

Thoughts? Suggestions?
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 9:53:09 AM EST
both
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 9:53:50 AM EST
Might as well go with a longer barrel if it's something you'll never have to conceal.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 9:55:43 AM EST
I like the 6" version as well for general use.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 9:58:16 AM EST
Make sure to get one with a steel cylinder. Some of the early 10 shot guns had aluminum.

Link Posted: 9/15/2009 9:58:51 AM EST
Personal preference, I like the 4" ones, 6" might be a bit more accurate.

Either one is going to be louder than hell in your basement.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:00:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 10:08:13 AM EST by 556fiend]
I got the six incher for about $400 several years ago. Trigger pull weight is adjustable and I adjusted it to the same level as my centerfire revolvers. It then failed to light off my federal, winchster and remington .22 cartridges. It required a very heavy pull to reliably fire rimfires so I sold it for $450 and bought a taurus .22 in stainless. It also suffers from heavy trigger pull (wolff spring kit proved too light to ignite rimfires) but I don't have as much money tied up in it.

YMMV
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:03:54 AM EST
Originally Posted By Windustsearch:
Either one is going to be louder than hell in your basement.


LOL...it can't be any louder than the Snubnosed Taurus 94 I previously shot in my basement!
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:04:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 10:04:36 AM EST by TravisAKASloth]
I've got the 6" 10 shot version. It's an expensive .22 but you get what you pay for.

I have no skills, but the range officer was pinging the 200 yrd gong with it.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:06:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By ftwm:
Might as well go with a longer barrel if it's something you'll never have to conceal.


That's what I'm thinking. But I'm worried about balance and asthetics as well.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:08:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 10:08:21 AM EST by vanilla_gorilla]
I would go with the 6 inch for the increased sight radius. The 8 inch is way too frontheavy, though.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:18:16 AM EST
Our club has two of the older six shot versions, a four and a six. The four gets shot a lot more. The six is a bit of a load. At fity feet, no one has yet noticed a significant difference in accuracy.

Triggers are not adjustable in the conventional sense. You can turn out the spring tension screw a bit, which will lighten the DA pull. BUT, this almost always results in light hammer strikes and then misfires. The spring tension screw is there to assist in take down and should not be considered a trigger pull adjustment.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:20:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 10:46:43 AM EST by ServiceGun]

EDIT: Excellent use of post #617 if I say so myself!

My 4" six shot 617 is one of my favorite revolvers.

Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:23:04 AM EST
I have the 4", 10 shot 617. I bought it mainly for teaching new shooters, so I could have a revolver for them to compare to semi-autos. I think the 6" are too front heavy, especially for this purpose. I also like the 4" because if I ever start shooting center-fire revolvers in competition, they would most likely be the same barrel length.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:23:44 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:27:04 AM EST
Would it be your only .22 pistol? If it is, get the 4" in case you teach any noobs to shoot. For a beginner gun it's pretty heavy and they may have trouble with it. If you have other .22s, go ahead and get the 6".
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:28:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 10:28:16 AM EST by RIA45ACP]
I've always preferred 4" they balance better IMO.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:37:36 AM EST
Poll added. Vote!
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:39:42 AM EST
I have a Model 17 10 shot with a 6" .... love it.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:46:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 10:49:00 AM EST by scmar]
Mine is the 6" version as is my model 29.


Paid 325 for mine.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:46:59 AM EST
I would go with the 6"
I have a 6" 617 as well as two 17s all with 6" barrels. If you are going to carry the gun as a trail gun or whatever, obviously the 4" has an advantage. I have a 4 3/8" Single Six for that and don't even own a holster for my 6" K-Frames.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:49:01 AM EST

Originally Posted By 556fiend:
I got the six incher for about $400 several years ago. Trigger pull weight is adjustable and I adjusted it to the same level as my centerfire revolvers. It then failed to light off my federal, winchster and remington .22 cartridges. It required a very heavy pull to reliably fire rimfires so I sold it for $450 and bought a taurus .22 in stainless. It also suffers from heavy trigger pull (wolff spring kit proved too light to ignite rimfires) but I don't have as much money tied up in it.

YMMV

The strain screw is NOT a trigger weight adjustment.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:52:42 AM EST
I have the 4" version but then again I have the 4" 686 and 629.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 10:54:41 AM EST
6" assuming it is a range plinker. you will appreciate the increase accuracy that is often lacking from shorter barreled .22s.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 11:11:01 AM EST
I prefer the balance and feel of the four inch.

Link Posted: 9/15/2009 11:16:50 AM EST
I really want the 6-inch myself... Very nice guns!
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 12:09:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 12:11:47 PM EST by machinisttx]
Originally Posted By 556fiend:
I got the six incher for about $400 several years ago. Trigger pull weight is adjustable and I adjusted it to the same level as my centerfire revolvers. It then failed to light off my federal, winchster and remington .22 cartridges. It required a very heavy pull to reliably fire rimfires so I sold it for $450 and bought a taurus .22 in stainless. It also suffers from heavy trigger pull (wolff spring kit proved too light to ignite rimfires) but I don't have as much money tied up in it.

YMMV


lol wut?

The only way I know of to reduce trigger pull on a S&W revolver is to pop the sideplate, change springs, and do some polishing. If you dicked with the strain screw as an "adjustment", no wonder it wouldn't fire reliably. At best, you can file a tiny bit from the tip of the strain screw, but it should always be tight. You can also thin the mainspring a little, but IMO, you'd best have a spare one handy in case you go too far––-just buy a reduced power Wolff power rib spring.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:24:00 AM EST
Does anyone know, how would the two compare ballistically? How much more is gained on the 22 rimfire round by 2 more barrel inches?
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:27:07 AM EST
I have a 6, but want to trade it in on a 4. I have a 4" 686 and feel it handles much better, so I want to see how the 4" 617 feels.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:47:48 AM EST
Originally Posted By maddog_enigma:
Does anyone know, how would the two compare ballistically? How much more is gained on the 22 rimfire round by 2 more barrel inches?


I have a 6" M17 and a chrono. Dunno if the rain will hold off long enough for me to go set it up and shoot.

Anyone have a 4" and a chrono?
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:52:14 AM EST
I have a couple of the 4" version. One is a pre-lock 6 shot and the other is a 10 shot lock model. Their availablity was more the reason rather than choice. I got the pre-lock for $400 and the lock model for $425. I like the handling of the 4" though I suspect the 6" would have been fine too. If you get a chance to handle each you might find one balances better for you.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 11:01:21 AM EST
When I bought mine I got the 6 incher, cause I liked the way it looked. I really like it but I wonder if I should have gotten the 4. Our range is only about 75 yards long, so the accuracy difference between the 4 and the 6 is nil, and the 6 gets heavy after 150 rounds or so. So I voted for the 4 inch, but either way you can't lose.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 11:05:59 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 11:21:58 AM EST
Maddog...

I'd recommend you look at any other revolvers you have first. If you don't then personal preference can rule...if you do...are more of them 4" bbl revolvers or other lengths? Might as well get the 617 not only as a fun gun, but as a trainer. If I had a (say) Model 19 6" I'd probably look for a 17 6" to keep the balance the same. Have a 586/686 4" or something similar...go with the 4" 617.

AFARR
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 11:26:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2009 11:27:34 AM EST by wildearp]
Originally Posted By ServiceGun:

EDIT: Excellent use of post #617 if I say so myself!

My 4" six shot 617 is one of my favorite revolvers.






I have this same gun pictured, same grips. The 4" barrel with a very small hole is a lot of steel. 6" is more weight than you really need in a .22. I went with the 4 because it matched my 686, but I bet it still weighs more. These are great guns, accurate, and built to last a lifetime.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 11:28:21 AM EST
Originally Posted By AFARR:
Maddog...

I'd recommend you look at any other revolvers you have first. If you don't then personal preference can rule...if you do...are more of them 4" bbl revolvers or other lengths? Might as well get the 617 not only as a fun gun, but as a trainer. If I had a (say) Model 19 6" I'd probably look for a 17 6" to keep the balance the same. Have a 586/686 4" or something similar...go with the 4" 617.

AFARR


I have a 4" 686

Link Posted: 9/17/2009 2:06:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By maddog_enigma:
Originally Posted By AFARR:
Maddog...

I'd recommend you look at any other revolvers you have first. If you don't then personal preference can rule...if you do...are more of them 4" bbl revolvers or other lengths? Might as well get the 617 not only as a fun gun, but as a trainer. If I had a (say) Model 19 6" I'd probably look for a 17 6" to keep the balance the same. Have a 586/686 4" or something similar...go with the 4" 617.

AFARR


I have a 4" 686



Then I'd definitely recommend getting the 4" BBL (the 617 is a K frame if I recall correctly vs. the L frame 686..I think that makes for a slight weight difference)...the sight radius should be effectively the same as should the point ability of the revolvers due to the similar balance.

AFARR
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