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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:30:32 PM EST
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/Dec/06/constellation-memories-sailors/

The end is near. She’s heading for the scrap heap. It’s time to say goodbye to “Connie,” one of the most beloved naval ships in the history of San Diego.

The Navy said it will soon turn over the Constellation to a company that will dismantle the aircraft carrier, which was in service for almost 42 years. For virtually all of that time, she was home-ported in San Diego. The ship's island tower was often part of the city's skyline.

Connie — as the ship is widely known — was decommissioned in 2003, shortly after she participated in Operation Iraqi Freedom. Since then, the hulking carrier has been resting at anchor at the inactive-ship maintenance facility in Bremerton, Wash.


Duty on board the Connie 1980's




Going under the Brooklyn Bridge, 1962


Left to right -
CV62 - USS Independence (Forrestal class Supercarrier)
CV63 - USS Kitty Hawk (Kitty Hawk class Supercarrier)
CV64 - USS Constellation (Kitty Hawk class Supercarrier)
CV61 - USS Ranger (Forrestal class Supercarrier)
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 7:34:55 PM EST
Cool ships to bad they can't just upgrade them to stay around a few more years
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 7:36:59 PM EST
IIRC the KH, Ranger, and Connie were all stationed in SD when I was a lad there in 1981/82, before I went into the Air Force.

Link Posted: 12/10/2013 7:39:19 PM EST
Did the '99 deployment. Twas a good ship.

Is that a VAST station?
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 7:40:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HEMIsphere05:
Cool ships to bad they can't just upgrade them to stay around a few more years
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That'd cost more than the CVs cost to first construct.
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 7:40:22 PM EST
I don't understand why they get rid of these carriers. Other than because of money, you'd think we'd want to keep adding to the power of our Navy.
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 7:41:38 PM EST
Well on the bright side maybe we can have some carriers with classic names again. Fuck this naming Carriers after presidents crap. Give me the Enterprise, Hornet, Wasp, Ranger, etc. What kind of servicemember could ever sail on the USS Barak Hussein Obama.
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 7:42:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ReconB4:
I don't understand why they get rid of these carriers. Other than because of money, you'd think we'd want to keep adding to the power of our Navy.
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The very practice of taking a ship to sea destroys it. The upkeep is staggering.
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Originally Posted By ReconB4:
I don't understand why they get rid of these carriers. Other than because of money, you'd think we'd want to keep adding to the power of our Navy.
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It isn't cost effective. At all.
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 7:55:04 PM EST
Why don't we sell them to friendly nations? Has that not been allowed since the Falklands?
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 7:58:19 PM EST
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First and only carrier to visit Anchorage. That was neat, saw the helicopters re-supplying it in the morning.

Too big to dock, it had to be lightered.
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 7:58:25 PM EST
I have a USS Ranger ballcap from when my brother served on her.
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 7:59:07 PM EST
fuck scrapping them. let them live on as artificial reefs.



even though cleaning one out to appease the environmentalweenies before sinking costs a fuckton of coin.
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 8:02:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ReconB4:
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Salt water and steel don't get along when the water is calm, and these have gone far in far more than calm.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 3:47:07 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ReconB4:
I don't understand why they get rid of these carriers. Other than because of money, you'd think we'd want to keep adding to the power of our Navy.
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Pieces start falling off.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 3:49:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Wrek:


It isn't cost effective. At all.
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Originally Posted By Wrek:
Originally Posted By ReconB4:
I don't understand why they get rid of these carriers. Other than because of money, you'd think we'd want to keep adding to the power of our Navy.


It isn't cost effective. At all.


This.

At a certain point, you don't keep replacing parts on your car. You toss it and get a new one.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 3:52:54 AM EST
Wow to think of all of the important events that those carriers have been involved with throughout the years.. I hate to see it (and the others) go. I hope they rename future ones by the old names vs that of some politician.
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Originally Posted By RedDane:
Wow to think of all of the important events that those carriers have been involved with throughout the years.. I hate to see it (and the others) go. I hope they rename future ones by the old names vs that of some politician.
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It's a measure of our force projection to know we have more super carriers in MOTHBALLS than every other country has in active service.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 4:11:05 AM EST
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It's a measure of our force projection to know we have more super carriers in MOTHBALLS than every other country has in active service.
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Originally Posted By Alex_F:
Originally Posted By RedDane:
Wow to think of all of the important events that those carriers have been involved with throughout the years.. I hate to see it (and the others) go. I hope they rename future ones by the old names vs that of some politician.


It's a measure of our force projection to know we have more super carriers in MOTHBALLS than every other country has in active service.


Oh, no doubt!
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 4:22:59 AM EST
My Connie story....

Served aboard the USS Kitty Hawk 1979-82. KH and Connie sometimes both at dock NAS North Island. One night returned to boat after a bit of heavy drinking, walked up the brow showed ID and requested permission to come aboard. (ID cards had a sticker with hull number) Was promptly advised that my ship was the next one over.

Well, they did look the same.
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Originally Posted By kittyhawk63:
My Connie story....

Served aboard the USS Kitty Hawk 1979-82. KH and Connie sometimes both at dock NAS North Island. One night returned to boat after a bit of heavy drinking, walked up the brow showed ID and requested permission to come aboard. (ID cards had a sticker with hull number) Was promptly advised that my ship was the next one over.

Well, they did look the same.
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I did the same while stationed on the Truman at Norfolk. I we walked up on the Enterprise and was quickly turned around by the OOD.

That would not fly anymore, that would be an alcohol related incident these days.
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Honeymooned in SD in 2002 and watched the Constellation leave the harbor from Point Loma. Fun to see it riding so high in the water, since the air wing wasn't on board. Have the pictures in our Honeymoon album.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 4:33:35 AM EST
Dad was a plank owner on the Constellation. My brother and I wanted to take him to the decommissioning but he wouldn't go for it.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 4:34:37 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MarkNH:
I misread the title and though you were talking about the USS Constitution
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The original Constellation was decommissioned and is in Baltimore's harbor. There will never be an new USS Constitution, because the original is still a fully commissioned warship. Unlike the Victory that is only thirty years her senior, she could sail across the Atlantic if they wanted her to.

I like that.
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What kind of servicemember could ever sail on the USS Barak Hussein Obama.
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Lesbian ones.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 5:43:43 AM EST
Interesting see that mast folded over going under the bridge.
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Originally Posted By RedDane:
Wow to think of all of the important events that those carriers have been involved with throughout the years.. I hate to see it (and the others) go. I hope they rename future ones by the old names vs that of some politician.
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Some of the old carrier names are being recycled into the gator fleet.
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Originally Posted By Jimfnd:


Lesbian ones.
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Originally Posted By Jimfnd:
What kind of servicemember could ever sail on the USS Barak Hussein Obama.


Lesbian ones.


Gay ones.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 6:19:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/11/2013 6:19:34 AM EST by CGC]
I served on USS CONSTELLATION (CV by god 64) from OCT 91 to NOV 94, Engineering and Strike Operations. Earned my Officer of the Deck and Surface Warfare Officer Qualifications on her; Captain could sleep at night when I had the deck. That tour served as the foundation of my naval career and no other ship could compare, you cannot imagine the complexity of it. There is nothing like fixed wing flight operations at sea, must be seen to be believed.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 1:10:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CGC:
I served on USS CONSTELLATION (CV by god 64) from OCT 91 to NOV 94, Engineering and Strike Operations. Earned my Officer of the Deck and Surface Warfare Officer Qualifications on her; Captain could sleep at night when I had the deck. That tour served as the foundation of my naval career and no other ship could compare, you cannot imagine the complexity of it. There is nothing like fixed wing flight operations at sea, must be seen to be believed.
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That is a fact. I used to watch ops from the bridge and signal bridge for hours at a time, just hypnotized by it all. Also have one launch and two arrested landings notched on my belt. Better than any amusement park ride or car racing experience by far. Have to give a nod to underway replenishments as well. Pretty exciting stuff.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 1:15:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HighSeasPoker:
Did the '99 deployment. Twas a good ship.

Is that a VAST station?
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I was a VAST tech on the Indy. That's not a VAST station.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 1:19:32 PM EST
Man that carrier was a POS and the end of its service. Same with the Lincoln and the Kennedy...
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Originally Posted By IHC53:


Gay ones.
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Originally Posted By IHC53:
Originally Posted By Jimfnd:
What kind of servicemember could ever sail on the USS Barak Hussein Obama.


Lesbian ones.


Gay ones.


What a bunch of haters. Let's not forget the transexual ones too

I would happily take a big steamy shit on the deck of the USS Barak Hussein Obama.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 1:25:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By smithc6:
Man that carrier was a POS and the end of its service. Same with the Lincoln and the Kennedy...
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Originally Posted By Paul:


We've got more rusting that any other nation has active.
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Originally Posted By Paul:
Originally Posted By KA3B:
CV62 - USS Independence (Forrestal class )
CV63 - USS Kitty Hawk (Kitty Hawk class )
CV64 - USS Constellation (Kitty Hawk class )
CV61 - USS Ranger (Forrestal class )


We've got more rusting that any other nation has active.
Because we actually use ours.


Apparently Thailand has an aircraft carrier, but it only leaves port once every.....2 months or so on training runs. Smallest in the world. And the Admiral Kustenov is rarely used because it's a rusting pile of shit that the russians are afraid will break. And the Chinese just refurbed its twin.

"use it or lose it" seems to apply, because if you don't use it you aren't developing your fixed wing ops, and not upgrading.

And if you do use it, you have several in mothballs
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Originally Posted By CarbineDad:
Originally Posted By smithc6:
Man that carrier was a POS and the end of its service. Same with the Lincoln and the Kennedy...



They were! I did many a detachment on both the Connie and Lincoln, and a med cruise for OEF on the Kennedy. I still respect the shit out of the ships and sailors though.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 2:05:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By smithc6:


They were! I did many a detachment on both the Connie and Lincoln, and a med cruise for OEF on the Kennedy. I still respect the shit out of the ships and sailors though.
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Originally Posted By smithc6:
Originally Posted By CarbineDad:
Originally Posted By smithc6:
Man that carrier was a POS and the end of its service. Same with the Lincoln and the Kennedy...



They were! I did many a detachment on both the Connie and Lincoln, and a med cruise for OEF on the Kennedy. I still respect the shit out of the ships and sailors though.


OK, your post read like the Lincoln was at the end of its service life
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Originally Posted By smithc6:


They were! I did many a detachment on both the Connie and Lincoln, and a med cruise for OEF on the Kennedy. I still respect the shit out of the ships and sailors though.
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Originally Posted By smithc6:
Originally Posted By CarbineDad:
Originally Posted By smithc6:
Man that carrier was a POS and the end of its service. Same with the Lincoln and the Kennedy...



They were! I did many a detachment on both the Connie and Lincoln, and a med cruise for OEF on the Kennedy. I still respect the shit out of the ships and sailors though.


Lincoln a POS?


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Originally Posted By Tony-Ri:
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None of our allies can afford to operate a Supercarrier because of their massive social welfare programs.

Oh, wait...

TC
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 2:14:40 PM EST


I did some insulation on her along time ago.
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Lincoln a POS?


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Originally Posted By smithc6:
Originally Posted By CarbineDad:
Originally Posted By smithc6:
Man that carrier was a POS and the end of its service. Same with the Lincoln and the Kennedy...



They were! I did many a detachment on both the Connie and Lincoln, and a med cruise for OEF on the Kennedy. I still respect the shit out of the ships and sailors though.


Lincoln a POS?




My memory could be a bit biased.

In my defense it was a 2 week det that I really didnt want to be on...

Im sure shes a fine ship.
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The Lincoln just came out of Newport News shipyard for its refueling/refit. The Abe ought to be better than new now.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 2:19:46 PM EST
Does anyone know who will be towing it and what scrapyard its going to? The Forestal is supposed to be making its last trip soon as well.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 2:24:55 PM EST

"War Chief"

November November Uniform Lima
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Originally Posted By Luchs:


The original Constellation was decommissioned and is in Baltimore's harbor. There will never be an new USS Constitution, because the original is still a fully commissioned warship. Unlike the Victory that is only thirty years her senior, she could sail across the Atlantic if they wanted her to.

I like that.
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Originally Posted By Luchs:
Originally Posted By MarkNH:
I misread the title and though you were talking about the USS Constitution


The original Constellation was decommissioned and is in Baltimore's harbor. There will never be an new USS Constitution, because the original is still a fully commissioned warship. Unlike the Victory that is only thirty years her senior, she could sail across the Atlantic if they wanted her to.

I like that.


That's the second Constellation that's in Baltimore's harbor, though they tried to lie about that for a while. The original was scrapped in the 1850's.

This is the third or 4th one, depending on if you count a never-completed Battlecruiser.
Link Posted: 12/11/2013 3:55:22 PM EST
In the black and white pic going under the Brooklyn Bridge, what are the objects mounted under the forward corners of the flight deck and angled deck?

Are they glide path signals from back when carriers were required to be able to recover aircraft while steaming astern?

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Originally Posted By ReconB4:
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there's that money thing again.
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