How bout it guys. It obviously can't be to heavy but my Buddy needs something for his "Aresenal". Its about 8 long guns and 5 pistols.

I live in a second floor apartment. Due to weight considerations and the obious disadvantage of dragging a 900lb gunsafe up the stairs in front of gawking neighbors, I would recommend a metal safety cabinet (WalMart safes). Tell your friend to hide it somewhere (such as in a closet),and bolt it to the wall. If he wants additional security, consider welding hardened steel angle brackets to the corners or welding a thicker steel facing to the door and top of the safe..

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See my post here for another option.

BMB

While not a safe, I'm using the Homak steel gun cabinets, bolted to the wall in my office closet.

My storage area is also upstairs, and my primary concern is to keep away from little hands. House is alarmed.

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Money will be the issue, ultimately.  Frankly, anybody with that many guns should be able to afford a good safe...

Options include the Zanotti system (take apart safes) or two smaller safes. A couple of 2ft x 2ft x 4ft high units are luggable just about anywhere.

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At the very least, it prevents you from being called a dip-sh*t by fellow gun-owning friends behind your back, or worse by anti-gunners...

i've got one of the inexpensive homaks from wal-mart. it's easily bolted to the wall. it's better than nothing.

Sentry has some low end safes that are well made.  They start around $300
http://www.deansafe.com/economy.html

Due to my impending divorce, I find myself in a second floor apartment.  I had my safe professionally moved (900 pounds, empty).  Although a neighbor might notice the noise of a break-in and report it, I think it is pretty unlikely that the mind-your-own-business people in this building would do so unless it was pretty blatant.  I know I made a lot of noise when moving in.  Nobody came out to look.

One consideration:  when you live in an apartment, your risk of fire goes up simply because there are more people, more stoves, more hot water heaters, more furnaces, more flamables.  So I think an apartment dweller has even more reasons to have a safe than a homeowner.  Especially one with a high fire rating.

I did check with my landlord before I put the safe in.  The building is only about four years old.  He had no problem with it at all.  I don't have any sense of the floor or stairs not being strong enough.