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Posted: 7/11/2001 8:05:00 AM EDT
for your state county, and local LEO's?
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Simple courtesy requires everyone to be treated with respect until they prove unworthy.
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respect them as individuals trying to do a tough job, unless they prove themselves unworthy. then respect the harm they can do you.
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Quoted: Locked. View Quote sgb [img]http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/rotfl.gif[/img] |
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Isn't this a loaded question when [b]little or none [/b] are the options?
When you start generalizing you introduce bias into your analysis. Come on,stop trying to alienate the cops on this board! Read the posts above by [b]imashooter2 and lurker and apply it to everyone you meet....LEO or not![/b] |
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Quoted: respect them as individuals trying to do a tough job, unless they prove themselves unworthy. then respect the harm they can do you. View Quote As in respect they enemies? I will not cower to rogue officials, and surely would never respect them! |
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What Ed, Sr. said. How about the respect each earns--just like everyone else. No generalizing allowed. Why is this such a difficult concept for some to grasp? I'm tempted to start name calling, but won't. I wouldn't even respond to this lunacy if I had a lick of sense.
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Quoted: Quoted: respect them as individuals trying to do a tough job, unless they prove themselves unworthy. then respect the harm they can do you. View Quote As in respect they enemies? I will not cower to rogue officials, and surely would never respect them! View Quote All LEO's are "rogue officials"?!! Screw the no name calling. You, sir, are truly an idiot. |
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Quoted: What Ed, Sr. said. How about the respect each earns--just like everyone else. No generalizing allowed. Why is this such a difficult concept for some to grasp? I'm tempted to start name calling, but won't. I wouldn't even respond to this lunacy if I had a lick of sense. View Quote I understand exactly what you say, but how come the generalized militia bashing is ok to some of you, especially those in law enforcement? |
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What should it be, little, or no respect....for your (insert ethnic, religious, or professional group here)?
Generalizations can lead to huge mistakes. Edited because I wanted to add this; Anyone who supports themselves through employment from the person who asks "do you want fries with that." to the brain surgeon deserves my respect. The life sucking welfare cheats are the only people not worthy of my respect. |
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Quoted: Quoted: What Ed, Sr. said. How about the respect each earns--just like everyone else. No generalizing allowed. Why is this such a difficult concept for some to grasp? I'm tempted to start name calling, but won't. I wouldn't even respond to this lunacy if I had a lick of sense. View Quote I understand exactly what you say, but how come the generalized militia bashing is ok to some of you, especially those in law enforcement? View Quote I am a member in good standing of the unorganized militia of the United States of America. I do not stand for it (us) being bashed by anyone. I have never heard an LEO (other than politically connected whores at the "top.") bash the militia. Again, don't condemn the 90% for the actions of the few. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What Ed, Sr. said. How about the respect each earns--just like everyone else. No generalizing allowed. Why is this such a difficult concept for some to grasp? I'm tempted to start name calling, but won't. I wouldn't even respond to this lunacy if I had a lick of sense. View Quote I understand exactly what you say, but how come the generalized militia bashing is ok to some of you, especially those in law enforcement? View Quote I am a member in good standing of the unorganized militia of the United States of America. I do not stand for it (us) being bashed by anyone. I have never heard an LEO (other than politically connected whores at the "top.") bash the militia. Again, don't condemn the 90% for the actions of the few. View Quote Then you have not seen, nor read previous posts in relation to militia introduced as food for thought, to which many on this board claiming to be LEO's for some reason or another bashed the militia, by repeating quotes of various anti-american not for profits that claim to monitor militia activity in america! |
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Quoted: Then you have not seen, nor read previous posts in relation to militia introduced as food for thought, to which many on this board claiming to be LEO's for some reason or another bashed the militia, by repeating quotes of various anti-american not for profits that claim to monitor militia activity in america! View Quote That would be a correct statement. Perhaps you can provide examples. I would vehemently take to task the individuals who would hold such silly propagandist bravo sierra, but, again, why condemn all for the few? |
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I am an LEO who takes pride in the fact I do my job well and treat everyone I come in contact with with respect until they give me reason to treat them otherwise. I am also tired of people starting threads with the sole purpose of criticizing and bashing police officers. Give everyone here a break and get a life. Then maybe I will start to respect your opinion.
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Simple courtesy requires everyone to be treated with respect until they prove unworthy. View Quote I am for that... |
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Quoted: .......... but, again, why condemn all for the few? View Quote [b]THIS IS A KEY POINT IN ALL THESE THREADS THAT JUDGE GROUPS [/b] |
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Nothing but great respect for the Sheriff's Dept. in my county. They have a tough job.
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Quoted: I can see the future... View Quote Don't you mean......... the near future? [:D] |
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Sorry guys but I don't GIVE respect to anyone... they have to earn it.
As for LEO's they get my courtesy in the beginning. However, almost all my previous contacts with LEO's in past 25 years has been very unpleasent. I guess being a a$$hole is a requirement to be a big city cop. I have several friends who are LEO with local county and federal agencies and even they admit they are a$$holes while on duty. It seems thats how they try to get respect... instead it just gives them bad name. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I can see the future... View Quote Don't you mean......... the near future? [:D] View Quote Indeed. |
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Well, we sure have come a long way from those days when the John Birch Society was handing out "SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL POLICE" bumper stickers, haven't we?
While I am home, asleep, curled up in a fetal position, lying next to Miz Hun, dreaming of my next high-dollar firearm acquisition, there are some poor schlubs running down a darkened alley in pursuit of some possibly armed(?) perp. You couldn't get ME to run down that darkened alley for a million dollars, but these guys are doing it for a helluva lot less! When my son-in-law is out of town, leaving my daughter and precious 4 year old granddaughter home alone in the boonies, the Collin County Sheriff's Office is unaware that I'm a lawyer when I call and tell them I'd like the Deputy on patrol that evening to check on them during his rounds. I'm [u]just[/u] a concerned citizen. And when the Deputy drives up their driveway to knock on the door, he always spends a few extra minutes 'looking around.' If any goblins are in the vicinity, I'm certain they don't linger long. [b]That, my friend, is priceless.[/b] Of course my daughter's reaction is always "Aw, Dad, I've got Steve's AR-15. We're safe." I know you are, honey, but dads will always be dads. No the LEO problem is from the top, not the bottom. It's the chiefs that make a department what it is, having usually worked their way up through the ranks. It's the political police chiefs, the appointed folks who never wore the blue until the Mayor annouces their appointment as chief at a press conference, who never had the misfortune to chase a perp down a darkened alley, who never had to take cover and scream into a shaking hand-held radio "Officer down!" that are the real source of problems. If Police Chief Gates had spent more time with his men and women, rooting out the misfits, and less time doing the talk show circuits, there may never have been an LAPD problem. Law Enforcement Officers should automatically receive our respect and support, until there is evidence that indicates otherwise. Same as in the military, you respect the uniform, if for no other reason. How about respecting lawyers as our next topic? Eric The(IGotNothingGoodToSayAboutThem!)Hun[>]:)] |
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You know, I've said a few things in different police topics... At times, I even get called things like a "dirty rookie."
But, if there's anything that I [b]do[/b] know, it's that 99% of police out there are owed our support. They're underpaid. Tell me, how much should someone who drivers around all day looking for trouble[makers] get paid? How much should someone who can't just walk away from problems when s/he gets tired of dealing with them get paid? They're overworked. I don't know about your areas, but around here the newspapers report about police overtime a lot. No, it's not because of time card fudging, it's because there's a shortage. They're under a lot of glaring light. In what other profession can you be canned or disciplined for doing your job? What other profession has to put up with liberal do-gooder "citizen advisory" boards as much as the police profession? I respect police. Yeah, at times I wish they wouldn't enforce certain laws. Gee, Mr. X had a bayonet lug on their rifle. Oh, Ms. Y was caught with a joint. Yeah, LEO's put them in jail, give them fines, etc. I don't like to see or hear about that. But, instead of getting angry with them, I get angry with the folks who make those laws in the first place. Mike EDITED to correct spelling errors. |
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Quoted: I understand exactly what you say, but how come the generalized militia bashing is ok to some of you, especially those in law enforcement? View Quote I have seen quite a bit of this too. This is because they believe that a-hole Mark Pitcavage's and ADL/SPLC crap. It is just fine to make gross generalizations about the militia but try to post a newspaper article about police corruption and the thread gets locked. Can you say "thin blue line"??? |
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When you are treated with disrespect from the drive-thru cashier at Wendy's, do you go verbally bashing the drive-thru worker at McDonalds?
The key to this argument as "individuals". You can't, more often than not, judge a collective by one of its members. If Officer McDickhead gives you unnecessary crap during his traffic patrol, then give Mr. McDickhead equal treatment for the rest of his days. But don't let that change your viewpoint on Sgt. Goodman, because you know from experience that he's a respectable, honest officer doing his job. For all the people in between that you DON'T know, treat them with the utmost respect, and ONLY otherwise, if they do not do the same for you. [brown]Evil Jewbroni~[/brown] |
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These threads are getting really out of hand. The idea of judging entire groups of people by the acts of a small minority is ludicrous.This philosophy comes from ignorance and prejudice. I am tired of this cop bashing, isn't anyone else?
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Hey, Jewbroni!
Another reason you don't show disrespect to the drive-through folks at either Wendy's or MacD's is THEY ARE ALONE WITH [u]YOUR[/u] FOOD!!!! Who knows what 'special sauce' may end up in your burger? Eric The(ThankYouRichardJeni)Hun[>]:)] |
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To The Very Young Jewbroni-
Don't dis fast food spots, you will easily get loogies and fecal matter in your food, and a real odd tasting "diet coke". |
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Originally Posted By Imbrog|io: try to post a newspaper article about police corruption and the thread gets locked. Can you say "thin blue line"??? View Quote The fact is that we only lock them when it goes from the "facts" to people editorializing how ALL police Depts. are the same,how ALL LEO's are the same,etc.And it applies to any other generalization made,not only LEO threads. FWIW-Nobody in my family is in LE.Heck,I don't even think anyone in my family know any LEO's at the local,state,fed,or international level. I am the closest to that as a Mall Ninja wannabe under the tutelage of Gecko 45 and Jojo. |
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Quoted: Originally Posted By Imbrog|io: try to post a newspaper article about police corruption and the thread gets locked. Can you say "thin blue line"??? View Quote The fact is that we only lock them when it goes from the "facts" to people editorializing how ALL police Depts. are the same,how ALL LEO's are the same,etc.And it applies to any other generalization made,not only LEO threads. FWIW-Nobody in my family is in LE.Heck,I don't even think anyone in my family know any LEO's at the local,state,fed,or international level. I am the closest to that as a Mall Ninja wannabe under the tutelage of Gecko 45 and Jojo. View Quote |
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I believe this is the one he is referring to Ed. I locked it for the reasons stated and for the fact that he worded the topic to start another cop bashing thread. If he had called it "evidence of police corruption" or something similar I would have left it alone. It was a judgement call and I stand by it. |
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Quoted: To The Very Young Jewbroni- Don't dis fast food spots, you will easily get loogies and fecal matter in your food, and a real odd tasting "diet coke". View Quote To The Very Slow Chaingun- Learn to correctly distinguish the difference between a direct event and an analogy. |
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Quoted: These threads are getting really out of hand. The idea of judging entire groups of people by the acts of a small minority is ludicrous.This philosophy comes from ignorance and prejudice. I am tired of this cop bashing, isn't anyone else? View Quote Excellent point crowboy. Unless you are refering to a paticular incident and can relate the details, you appear to simply attack LEOs for no good reason whatsoever. I would rather not read about "bashing" anyone or any group that is on "OUR SIDE", yourself included. Just drop this topic, go see an movie, have a beer, come back, and start over. (no bashing this time) Tyler |
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Quoted: What would you call these posts by Andreusan if not editorials and generalizations? This stuff gets real old fast! View Quote Uhumm,that was my point,sir [;)] |
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Quoted: Quoted: What would you call these posts by Andreusan if not editorials and generalizations? This stuff gets real old fast! View Quote Uhumm,that was my point,sir [;)] View Quote |
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