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Posted: 10/24/2004 3:58:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/25/2004 10:07:14 AM EST by ZEN]


Could the supervolcano in Yellowstone national park explode and kill millions?

Could it destroy the northern United States?

Has it happened before?

Will it happen again?

Find out tonight on the Discovery Channel. They are having a program about Supervolcanos. It may prove interesting.

It may have been on before, but if you haven't seen it, you may want to.

A must for all survivalists.

Check local listings.

Update, this aired Sunday Oct 24 2004, but it may be on later this week or next on Discovery. Keep checking listings.


Zen

"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:16:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2004 4:21:06 AM EST by The_Beer_Slayer]
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:18:14 AM EST
Isn't it funny how all these survivalists move out to western lands to survive the end of the world and end up moving right next door to the mother of all volcanoes.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:18:19 AM EST
Further note to self: Build lava shelter into my bug out cabin.

Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:22:26 AM EST

How do ya think I feel, I'm livin' on top of the damn thing.

But I was born here, I didn't move here. So I didn't have much of a choice in the matter.

What is VERY funny, is that I have always felt that where I live was one of the safest places on earth.

Now it may be the death of me!


"You have to consider the possiblity that GOD DOES NOT LIKE YOU" -- Tyler Derden


Odin does indeed move in mysterious ways.



Zen



Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:26:37 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:34:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
Further note to self: Build lava shelter into my bug out cabin.




won't work the heat will just bake you like a fine pot roast in a crock pot. Toss in some taters and spices in the shelter. The resuce party might be hungry when they get there





What's even worse, is it's gonna rain chunks of rock the size of mini vans down on my head.


Bummer.


Zen

"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:36:55 AM EST
Have an ETA on that show?
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:37:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
Further note to self: Build lava shelter into my bug out cabin.




You're good to go ............

NY is outside the debris AREA
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:42:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By GC456:
Have an ETA on that show?




It will be on at 10pm mountain time here in Montana.


Zen

"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:57:25 AM EST
It's all Bush's fault. Kerry would have handled the volcano differently. Kerry has a plan
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 5:13:59 AM EST

Originally Posted By pale_pony:
It's all Bush's fault. Kerry would have handled the volcano differently. Kerry has a plan

Link Posted: 10/24/2004 7:25:47 AM EST
Duck & cover.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 7:44:19 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 7:44:33 AM EST
Considering that volcanoes turn out more greenhouse gases in a day than man has emitted in this century, the global warming idiots probably think they will cause the end of the world.

Link Posted: 10/24/2004 7:50:25 AM EST
The anticipation is killing me. Is there anything we could do to hurry that sucker up and get it to blow? Might as well get it over with.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 7:50:39 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 7:58:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By chrome1:

Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
Further note to self: Build lava shelter into my bug out cabin.




You're good to go ............

NY is outside the debris AREA





I am too!
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 9:17:09 AM EST
I saw this program a year ago or so. Very interesting.

I live in west central Colo. I figure if Yellowstone goes I'll have enough time to see a black cloud rolling in and say "Oh Shit!"
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:49:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By ZEN:

Originally Posted By GC456:
Have an ETA on that show?




It will be on at 10pm mountain time here in Montana.


Zen

"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"





Thanks
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:52:56 PM EST
My mission - to find Zen's secret undeground missile silo lair with the 18 year old virgins prior to the Apocalypse hitting us all!!
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 1:12:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By J_Smith:
My mission - to find Zen's secret undeground missile silo lair with the 18 year old virgins prior to the Apocalypse hitting us all!!




Oh, ........ didn't you hear?


The 18 year olds are now 23 year olds, and they found out about palimony at "womens studies" at the local college. So they sued me and took over the silo.

Seems some of those bitches were neither totally straight nor virgins. (damn carpet munchers)

(yeah, ... I thought having bi girlfriends was cool at first too)


So now they have the silo, and I live in a one bedroom apartment near a strip mall off Highway 93.

(they even got my pet sheep)


Zen



"That was my silo, there was nothing like it, and now it is theirs"

Link Posted: 10/24/2004 1:19:45 PM EST
I live in the Tampa area, so no worries for me...except for the occasional hurricane (or four) or an asteroid hitting in the Gulf of Mexico...
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 1:24:26 PM EST
The earth has a ingenious way of recycling its self. This may be its way this time. And if it is so be it.

BTW... who was it that predicted this in the survival form a couple of months ago?
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 1:25:14 PM EST
Those bastards.........thats horrible Zen........just horrible........that silo was the only dream I had going for me in life - that there was, in fact, a secret commune of nubile giggling 18 year old virgin girls running around cleaning FAL's as the came off the range.....Sigh......what is one to do?

I think I got the nubile girl thing covered now - but I have to unliberalize her ways.......this is going to be fun. That, and she lacks a twin - every hot chick NEEDS a twin!!
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 1:35:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By ZEN:

Originally Posted By J_Smith:
My mission - to find Zen's secret undeground missile silo lair with the 18 year old virgins prior to the Apocalypse hitting us all!!




Oh, ........ didn't you hear?


The 18 year olds are now 23 year olds, and they found out about palimony at "womens studies" at the local college. So they sued me and took over the silo.

Seems some of those bitches were neither totally straight nor virgins. (damn carpet munchers)

(yeah, ... I thought having bi girlfriends was cool at first too)


So now they have the silo, and I live in a one bedroom apartment near a strip mall off Highway 93.

(they even got my pet sheep)


Zen



"That was my silo, there was nothing like it, and now it is theirs"





I love it!!!!!!
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 1:39:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2004 1:40:56 PM EST by spm681]
Note to self. Postpone next years Yellowstone Trip. Go to San Francisco to see wildlife instead.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 1:43:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By FOX-:
The earth has a ingenious way of recycling its self. This may be its way this time. And if it is so be it.

BTW... who was it that predicted this in the survival form a couple of months ago?




Nobody "predicted" it months ago in the Survival Forum. This has been something that scientists have been thinking about for several years now, and I'm pretty sure the show that's on tonight is just a repeat of the show that was on a few months ago.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 1:51:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2004 1:52:51 PM EST by ZEN]

Originally Posted By J_Smith:
Those bastards.........thats horrible Zen........just horrible........that silo was the only dream I had going for me in life - that there was, in fact, a secret commune of nubile giggling 18 year old virgin girls running around cleaning FAL's as the came off the range.....Sigh......what is one to do?

I think I got the nubile girl thing covered now - but I have to unliberalize her ways.......this is going to be fun. That, and she lacks a twin - every hot chick NEEDS a twin!!





It does suck.

Hell, they even went took me to court (femnazi judge) and made me pay "child support" on my pet sheep!

$600 a month per sheep. (a dollar a piece for daffodiles?????)

What the hell are they feeding them?

Sheeeeeeeesh!

Zen







"Those were my sheep, there were many like them, but those are breaking my bank)
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 2:01:32 PM EST


It does suck.

Hell, they even went took me to court (femnazi judge) and made me pay "child support" on my pet sheep!

$600 a month per sheep. (a dollar a piece for daffodiles?????)

What the hell are they feeding them?

Sheeeeeeeesh!

Zen


Those were my sheep, there were many like them, but those are breaking my bank)




Damn........ and I always thought your sheep would grow up to become fluffers in adult cinematic video productions. At least make it into the centerfold of "Sheered" magazine - my personal favorite nude sheep pictoral...........

I guess inside every nubile 18 year old carpet muncher, is a feminazi waiting to get out.............tough break for a Montana refugee
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 2:02:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By napalm:

Originally Posted By FOX-:
The earth has a ingenious way of recycling its self. This may be its way this time. And if it is so be it.

BTW... who was it that predicted this in the survival form a couple of months ago?




Nobody "predicted" it months ago in the Survival Forum. This has been something that scientists have been thinking about for several years now, and I'm pretty sure the show that's on tonight is just a repeat of the show that was on a few months ago.



They predicted that it would be 10x or 100x (can't remember which) bigger then the last eruption and that it would cover most of the US with ash....
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 3:02:12 PM EST
bttt
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:05:17 PM EST
Bump...


Its starting!
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:09:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By J_Smith:


It does suck.

Hell, they even went took me to court (femnazi judge) and made me pay "child support" on my pet sheep!

$600 a month per sheep. (a dollar a piece for daffodiles?????)

What the hell are they feeding them?

Sheeeeeeeesh!

Zen


Those were my sheep, there were many like them, but those are breaking my bank)




Damn........ and I always thought your sheep would grow up to become fluffers in adult cinematic video productions. At least make it into the centerfold of "Sheered" magazine - my personal favorite nude sheep pictoral...........

I guess inside every nubile 18 year old carpet muncher, is a feminazi waiting to get out.............tough break for a Montana refugee




Yeah, it sucks the pipe.

Five years ago I was warm and cozy in my deluxe underground survival silo, drinking champaign out of an eighteen year old girls (you know what), smoking cigars hand rolled on the thighs of brown cuban woman and eating caviar.

Now I'm living in a one room apartment, eating canned tuna and macaroni and cheese from costco, and smoking roy tan cigars from K-mart.

Life does have it's little ups and downs.



Zen






"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:09:50 PM EST
Bring on the Sheep porn!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:20:22 PM EST

Yeah, it sucks the pipe.

Five years ago I was warm and cozy in my deluxe underground survival silo, drinking champaign out of an eighteen year old girls (you know what), smoking cigars hand rolled on the thighs of brown cuban woman and eating caviar.

Now I'm living in a one room apartment, eating canned tuna and macaroni and cheese from costco, and smoking roy tan cigars from K-mart.

Life does have it's little ups and downs.


Zen






Funny story........I once drank cheap champaign out of an eighteen year old girls (you know what) as well - usually during a nice long shared dinner of spiced lamb shanks at my remote hillside compoundl. I no longer drink upon the red wine - the aftertaste of fish that one night is still ripe in my mind. This would follow by a long night of making passionate love on my reloading table next to my lifetime collection of Soldier of Fortune magazines. She tried to incorporate a demilled RPG round into a sex session once, I however was NOT down with that - the most ridiculous sex toy I have ever seen........she eventually left me for her true love - moolighting as a porn star for chicks-with-guns calendars which are ever present amount todays survivalists.

I still occasionally delve into my bizarre lifestyle while TAD/TDY to different parts of America fighting the war on error.......I mean Terror......thats what I said. It is not uncommon for me to use my smooth Don Juan skills on a recent South American immigrant maid working at the local Hilton. I travel a lot but I miss my Y2K days - covering nubile lasses in mashed potatoes and gravy and subsequently...............

Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:31:44 PM EST
At first i thought this was a prank thread..

But you guys are serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haven't you ever studied geology? hostory of the earth, astonomy and the effect of gravity on the oceans and land?

Please don't tell you you believ ein all the propogandana of global warming.

Please rise above liberal college way of thinking.

Of course the earth surface is changing... IT"S SUPPOSE TO!

for all you teck's..... run a bell curve.

Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:43:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By Zoometta:
At first i thought this was a prank thread..

But you guys are serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haven't you ever studied geology? hostory of the earth, astonomy and the effect of gravity on the oceans and land?

Please don't tell you you believ ein all the propogandana of global warming.

Please rise above liberal college way of thinking.

Of course the earth surface is changing... IT"S SUPPOSE TO!

for all you teck's..... run a bell curve.





Actually it would translate into global cooling....

Did you watch the show? If not go away
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:49:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
note to self don't move near a volcano that could destroy 1/2 the continent.



Well...I'm screwed.

Both my bug-out cabin and my bug-in house seem to lie within the blast radius.


Nuts.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 4:54:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By Zoometta:
At first i thought this was a prank thread..

But you guys are serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haven't you ever studied geology? hostory of the earth, astonomy and the effect of gravity on the oceans and land?

Please don't tell you you believ ein all the propogandana of global warming.

Please rise above liberal college way of thinking.

Of course the earth surface is changing... IT"S SUPPOSE TO!

for all you teck's..... run a bell curve.





About half of what you say makes sense, and half doesn't - but I'm having trouble figuring out which half is which
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 5:00:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By TacticalMan:
Considering that volcanoes turn out more greenhouse gases in a day than man has emitted in this century, the global warming idiots probably think they will cause the end of the world.




It would. The ash cloud ans sulfer gases would cause a radical cooling of the whole planet. Not to ignore the global scale of deaths from the ash mixed air.

Humanity has seem this before. We as a species were almost wiped out last time.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 7:25:52 PM EST
... Nothing we peons can do about an event potentially that massively catastrophic

... Just carry on
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 8:17:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf:
... Nothing we peons can do about an event potentially that massively catastrophic

... Just carry on




I actually disagree.

If you were out of the blast zone, you could have food stored to last a few years and survive it.

And storing grain and beans and other sundries isn't that expensive or that hard.

For the price of a good AR you can store many years worth of grain.

Anyone else have lots of nitro pack grain, beans etc stored away?



Zen





"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"


Link Posted: 10/24/2004 8:24:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2004 8:26:39 PM EST by GC456]

Originally Posted By ZEN:
If you were out of the blast zone, you could have food stored to last a few years and survive it.




If this ever happens, you will need ALOT more than a few years of food stocked up. This would last for decades!


Edited to add: The sun would be blocked for decades, you couldn't store enough food for that. And that is assuming you and your stockpile survive the mass panic/riots/ect
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 8:30:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By GC456:

Originally Posted By ZEN:
If you were out of the blast zone, you could have food stored to last a few years and survive it.




If this ever happens, you will need ALOT more than a few years of food stocked up. This would last for decades!


Edited to add: The sun would be blocked for decades, you couldn't store enough food for that. And that is assuming you and your stockpile survive the mass panic/riots/ect



+1

They call these sorts of things "global killers". The folks over at abovetopsecret.com are conviced that the Yellowstone caldera is gonna blow and that we are all dead meat. Either that or there is a Zetan invasion fleet on the way here. I keep forgetting...
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 8:49:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By GC456:

Originally Posted By ZEN:
If you were out of the blast zone, you could have food stored to last a few years and survive it.




If this ever happens, you will need ALOT more than a few years of food stocked up. This would last for decades!


Edited to add: The sun would be blocked for decades, you couldn't store enough food for that. And that is assuming you and your stockpile survive the mass panic/riots/ect




Again, I repectfully disagree.

The last one (75000 years ago) didn't kill everyone off and they did not have the storage capability that we do.

Also, the narrarator of this program said it would screw up the growing season for a few years, not decades.

Grain, is cheap. And canning it is easy.


It could be survived. It was last time, by primitives.


It will be survived again, by someone.



Zen




"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 9:09:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By ZEN:

Originally Posted By GC456:

Originally Posted By ZEN:
If you were out of the blast zone, you could have food stored to last a few years and survive it.




If this ever happens, you will need ALOT more than a few years of food stocked up. This would last for decades!


Edited to add: The sun would be blocked for decades, you couldn't store enough food for that. And that is assuming you and your stockpile survive the mass panic/riots/ect




Again, I repectfully disagree.

The last one (75000 years ago) didn't kill everyone off and they did not have the storage capability that we do.

Also, the narrarator of this program said it would screw up the growing season for a few years, not decades.

Grain, is cheap. And canning it is easy.


It could be survived. It was last time, by primitives.


It will be survived again, by someone.



Zen




"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"





You also have to remember that these "primitive humans" were already used to fending for themselves.

People today are lazy, like the ARFCOM guy that had a lady offer him $5 to clean her winshield. If the mall isn't open I don't know how most would servive. Most people can't make it in modern times because they don't want to do anything for themselves, I couldn't imagine them lasting a week.


I under stand your argument about food storage, but seriously who has that kind of food/water supply. Sure most people here have some MRE's, 55 gal Drums of water and some medical supplies, but how long would that last. ARFCOM'ers certainly have a better chance than most, but I don't think that would last.

Most people would simply die with no power, A/C or Heat, let alone trying to find food. They said the last super volcano to erupt caused a 5 degree temp drop on average, and I believe he said that was enough to turn summer into winter in most areas.

I truly believe if this happened it would last for atleast 10 years, but lests say it was only 5... I think the outcome would be the same.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:18:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By GC456:

Originally Posted By ZEN:

Originally Posted By GC456:

Originally Posted By ZEN:
If you were out of the blast zone, you could have food stored to last a few years and survive it.




If this ever happens, you will need ALOT more than a few years of food stocked up. This would last for decades!


Edited to add: The sun would be blocked for decades, you couldn't store enough food for that. And that is assuming you and your stockpile survive the mass panic/riots/ect




Again, I repectfully disagree.

The last one (75000 years ago) didn't kill everyone off and they did not have the storage capability that we do.

Also, the narrarator of this program said it would screw up the growing season for a few years, not decades.

Grain, is cheap. And canning it is easy.


It could be survived. It was last time, by primitives.


It will be survived again, by someone.



Zen




"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"





You also have to remember that these "primitive humans" were already used to fending for themselves.

People today are lazy, like the ARFCOM guy that had a lady offer him $5 to clean her winshield. If the mall isn't open I don't know how most would servive. Most people can't make it in modern times because they don't want to do anything for themselves, I couldn't imagine them lasting a week.


I under stand your argument about food storage, but seriously who has that kind of food/water supply. Sure most people here have some MRE's, 55 gal Drums of water and some medical supplies, but how long would that last. ARFCOM'ers certainly have a better chance than most, but I don't think that would last.

Most people would simply die with no power, A/C or Heat, let alone trying to find food. They said the last super volcano to erupt caused a 5 degree temp drop on average, and I believe he said that was enough to turn summer into winter in most areas.

I truly believe if this happened it would last for atleast 10 years, but lests say it was only 5... I think the outcome would be the same.





Certainly most people will be toast if anything like this ever occurs. (doubtful in our lifetimes) Probably 99% will perish.

But govt people will survive in their bunkers and some hardcore survivalists will survive to procreate.

I think he talked about a couple (or maybe three) growing seasons that would be affected.

But lets say five for arguments sake.

I think you might be surprised how many people (in my state alone) have a ten year supply of food and essentials stored. (they number in the thousands in my state alone)

And we're not talking about storing MacDonalds cheeseburgers here. We are talking about basic grain storage etc. Much cheaper to store, and will last possibly as much as a century or more.

As for water, though you would need a supply, you would not need several years worth. There would be water around after such an event. And water is cheap pre-catastorphy.

Storing the food is more a matter of will than anything else. It is a matter of making choices. (storing food or buy a bunch of yuppie useless crap) It does cost some money, but it can be done on a monthly budget basis, a bit at a time.

It is daunting. And it is easy to have a "it can't be done" attitude about it and just give up.

But, ..... there will be prepared people who will survive. More than you might think.

But it will definetly be divided between the grasshoppers and the ants. The grasshoppers are going to be gone.


Zen


"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 5:57:29 AM EST

Originally Posted By ZEN:

Originally Posted By J_Smith:
My mission - to find Zen's secret undeground missile silo lair with the 18 year old virgins prior to the Apocalypse hitting us all!!




Oh, ........ didn't you hear?


The 18 year olds are now 23 year olds, and they found out about palimony at "womens studies" at the local college. So they sued me and took over the silo.

Seems some of those bitches were neither totally straight nor virgins. (damn carpet munchers)

(yeah, ... I thought having bi girlfriends was cool at first too)


So now they have the silo, and I live in a one bedroom apartment near a strip mall off Highway 93.

(they even got my pet sheep)


Zen



"That was my silo, there was nothing like it, and now it is theirs"





Link Posted: 10/25/2004 6:04:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bumblebee_Bob:

Originally Posted By ZEN:

Originally Posted By J_Smith:
My mission - to find Zen's secret undeground missile silo lair with the 18 year old virgins prior to the Apocalypse hitting us all!!




Oh, ........ didn't you hear?


The 18 year olds are now 23 year olds, and they found out about palimony at "womens studies" at the local college. So they sued me and took over the silo.

Seems some of those bitches were neither totally straight nor virgins. (damn carpet munchers)

(yeah, ... I thought having bi girlfriends was cool at first too)


So now they have the silo, and I live in a one bedroom apartment near a strip mall off Highway 93.

(they even got my pet sheep)


Zen



"That was my silo, there was nothing like it, and now it is theirs"










It's not funny, I am degraded to drinking ripple wine and looking at used porn (penthouse) that I buy at discount garage sales.


Sure my life is simpler now, but late at night I cry while I masturbate.



Zen


"This is my life, there are few like it, but this one is mine"
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 6:10:51 AM EST
When Mt. St. Helens went off in the 80's, something like 1 cubic km of material was launched into the atmosphere. Last time Yellowstone blew, someting like 1500 cubic km of material went up. This was probably responsible for an ice age. If it goes, we won't have to worry about it.

SRM
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