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Posted: 10/29/2010 3:00:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/29/2010 3:02:04 PM EDT by marksman121]




101026-N-3374C-148 ATLANTIC OCEAN (Oct. 26, 2010) Naval Air Crewmen 2nd Class William Morrison, assigned to Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 70 embarked aboard the guided-missile cruiser USS Gettysburg (CG 64), fires a GAU-16 .50-caliber machine gun from an MH-60R Sea Hawk helicopter at ex-USNS Saturn during a sinking exercise. Gettysburg is part of the George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group and is participating in an exercise in the Atlantic Ocean. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Tony Curtis/Released)



George H.W. Bush Strike Group Sinks Ex-USNS Saturn
By Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Sandi Grimnes, USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77) Public Affairs

USS GEORGE H.W. BUSH, At Sea (NNS) –– Sea and air assets assigned to the George H.W. Bush (CVN 77) Carrier Strike Group (CSG) successfully sunk the former U.S. Navy re-supply ship USNS Saturn (T-AFS 100) in a sinking exercise (SINKEX) in the Atlantic Ocean, Oct. 27.

Ships from Destroyer Squadron 22 and aircraft from Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 8, along with Patrol Squadron (VP) 10 and VP 45, participated in the real-world tactical training exercise with surface-to-surface, air-to-surface and surface-to-air live fire, said Commander, Destroyer Squadron 22 Capt. Jeffrey Wolstenholme, who was responsible for the coordination, planning and execution of the two-day SINKEX.

The guided-missile destroyer USS Mitscher (DDG 57) and the guided-missile cruisers USS Philippine Sea (CG 58) and USS Gettysburg (CG 64) launched missiles, 5-inch guns, Close-In Weapons System (CIWS) and 25-mm and .50-cal weapons. In addition, aircraft and helicopters from CVW 8 launched from Bush and employed bombs and air-to-surface missiles during the exercise.

The sinking exercise focused on integrated strike group operations, command and control procedures, pre-planned responses to maritime threats and surface action group operations. As the strike group prepares for a combat deployment in spring 2011, the sinking exercise provided a unique opportunity to practice combat scenarios, to include tactics and procedures. The exercise was planned to scale up the attacks during the course of the two days, Wolstenholme said.

The first day's attacks were aimed at Saturn's superstructure to prevent hull integrity breaches. The attacks designed to sink the ship occurred on the second day. Every watertight door and hatch was closed on Saturn to ensure the maximum watertight integrity of the ship, so it would stay afloat until the final event where it was sunk with 5-inch rounds, said Wolstenholme.

Using a decommissioned ship as a training platform allows the U.S. Navy to improve the warfighting skills of those who currently serve. Real world training, such as this sinking exercise, enhances force readiness in a way that is unmatched by any simulated scenario.

This exercise demonstrated the strike group's ability to plan and execute warfare competencies such as maritime security, sea control, power projection and deterrence, said Capt. Patrick R. Cleary, commander, CVW 8.

"Everyone in the strike group is very excited to have the opportunity to conduct this exercise because it is rare to be involved in this," Wolstenholme said. "You have an actual life-size ship out there that you can attack with aircraft coming in, ships driving in close proximity and ships launching missiles from long-range getting targeting information from aircraft. It's really hard to replicate this without a hull to shoot at."

Saturn was prepared for the exercise in accordance with all U.S. Environmental Protection Agency requirements, Wolstenholme said. All the fuel oil tanks and piping were cleaned and flushed of petroleum products, and all readily detachable material capable of creating debris or contributing to chemical pollution was removed from the ship.

"We are very sensitive to the environment," Wolstenholme said. "We take great strides to ensure that we are monitoring the environment. We have dropped sonobuoys around the hull to listen for any marine mammals that may be vocalizing and we are surveying the area for marine mammals, sea turtles and concentrations of jelly fish by flying aircraft over the hull and surrounding area.

"Until we have that absolute verification, we do not give permission to launch any weapons," said Wolstenholme. "We have to have that assurance that we will not be putting marine mammals and sea turtles in danger before we begin firing at the former USNS Saturn."

The Navy has put a moratorium on the sinking exercise after 2010 to conduct a comprehensive review of the requirements, costs, benefits and environmental impacts of the current process, said Wolstenholme. Even with the moratorium, the Navy will continue to get the training it needs, just not in the totality that it gets in the sinking exercise.

Saturn was transferred from the British Fleet Auxiliary to Military Sealift Command Dec. 13, 1983. Saturn was in service for more than 25 years and was deactivated April 6, 2009. Towing and salvage specialists at Inactive Ship Maintenance Facility in Philadelphia verified that the 523-foot ship was seaworthy before it was towed about 250 miles off the coast of North Carolina.

For more news from USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77), visit www.navy.mil/local/cvn77/.


Link Posted: 10/29/2010 3:02:02 PM EDT
They put a missile into the side of my old ship.

Bastards.
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 3:08:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/29/2010 3:53:26 PM EDT by blacksunshinez51]
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
They put a missile into the side of my old ship.

Bastards.


Better that, than getting scrapped out, sold to China and made into shitty cars.

Id rather see her on the bottom of the sea this way. At least she provided training for the HER fleet in her demise, not the enemies. SINKEX of a ship that I was on.
USS GUAM

ETA: Spelling sea not see
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 3:09:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By marksman121:

http://i55.tinypic.com/27xm5jq.jpg

http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/101026-N-3374C-148.jpg
101026-N-3374C-148 ATLANTIC OCEAN (Oct. 26, 2010) Naval Air Crewmen 2nd Class William Morrison, assigned to Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 70 embarked aboard the guided-missile cruiser USS Gettysburg (CG 64), fires a GAU-16 .50-caliber machine gun from an MH-60R Sea Hawk helicopter at ex-USNS Saturn during a sinking exercise. Gettysburg is part of the George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group and is participating in an exercise in the Atlantic Ocean. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Tony Curtis/Released)


Huh?

Link Posted: 10/29/2010 3:11:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By blacksunshinez51:
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
They put a missile into the side of my old ship.

Bastards.


Better that, than getting scrapped out, sold to China and made into shitty cars.

Id rather see her on the bottom of the see this way. At least she provided training for the HER fleet in her demise, not the enemies. SINKEX of a ship that I was on.
USS GUAM


2 HARM missiles
2 Hellfire Missile
2 Penguin Missiles
4 Maverick Missiles
CBU-99 Cluster Bombs
about 40 Laser Guided Bombs (LGB) using the MK-82 500lb warhead,
1 air-launched Harpoon Missile
9 surface-launched Harpoons
Naval gunfire
MK-48 ADCAP torpedo.

damn
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 3:14:51 PM EDT
I just found that video last week. I knew they sunk her years ago. DAMN she put up a fight though. That's a lot ordinance.
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 3:16:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/29/2010 3:17:37 PM EDT by Spade]

Originally Posted By RarestRX:
Originally Posted By marksman121:

http://i55.tinypic.com/27xm5jq.jpg

http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/101026-N-3374C-148.jpg
101026-N-3374C-148 ATLANTIC OCEAN (Oct. 26, 2010) Naval Air Crewmen 2nd Class William Morrison, assigned to Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 70 embarked aboard the guided-missile cruiser USS Gettysburg (CG 64), fires a GAU-16 .50-caliber machine gun from an MH-60R Sea Hawk helicopter at ex-USNS Saturn during a sinking exercise. Gettysburg is part of the George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group and is participating in an exercise in the Atlantic Ocean. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Tony Curtis/Released)


Huh?


Lightweight M2 with some minor changes.

ETA: Oh, yeah, I see what you're seeing. That's not a GAU-16 at all.
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 3:17:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Spade:

Originally Posted By RarestRX:
Originally Posted By marksman121:

http://i55.tinypic.com/27xm5jq.jpg

http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/101026-N-3374C-148.jpg
101026-N-3374C-148 ATLANTIC OCEAN (Oct. 26, 2010) Naval Air Crewmen 2nd Class William Morrison, assigned to Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 70 embarked aboard the guided-missile cruiser USS Gettysburg (CG 64), fires a GAU-16 .50-caliber machine gun from an MH-60R Sea Hawk helicopter at ex-USNS Saturn during a sinking exercise. Gettysburg is part of the George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group and is participating in an exercise in the Atlantic Ocean. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Tony Curtis/Released)


Huh?


Lightweight M2 with some minor changes.


He is talking about the pic showing a 240 being listed as the GAU-16.
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 3:18:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SevenMMmag:
Originally Posted By blacksunshinez51:
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
They put a missile into the side of my old ship.

Bastards.


Better that, than getting scrapped out, sold to China and made into shitty cars.

Id rather see her on the bottom of the see this way. At least she provided training for the HER fleet in her demise, not the enemies. SINKEX of a ship that I was on.
USS GUAM


2 HARM missiles
2 Hellfire Missile
2 Penguin Missiles
4 Maverick Missiles
CBU-99 Cluster Bombs
about 40 Laser Guided Bombs (LGB) using the MK-82 500lb warhead,
1 air-launched Harpoon Missile
9 surface-launched Harpoons
Naval gunfire
MK-48 ADCAP torpedo.

damn


Penquins? 1980when?

Link Posted: 10/29/2010 3:21:39 PM EDT
One day, we must all go into the water....

May Neptune keep her.
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 3:25:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/29/2010 3:27:40 PM EDT by MiG-21]
Only took one shot to sink my first ship, USS John Young DD-973

1 Mk-48 ADCAP





http://ussthorndd988.com/Thornsistership.html
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 3:40:19 PM EDT
so the military wants to go green why not scrap it and melt it down?
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 3:47:47 PM EDT
What's that like for a Sailor to hear that a ship he served on has been decommissioned or sunk like that?
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 3:48:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/29/2010 3:58:39 PM EDT by junker46]
I made a couple of crusies on her sister ship, The USNS Sirius TAFS-8. Ex-Birtish ship.

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
What's that like for a Sailor to hear that a ship he served on has been decommissioned or sunk like that?



There was one ship I was on that I'd be the first aboard with a cutting torch when the time comes. I hated it.

But I have seen old guys come from all over the country to walk the piers in NORVA to relive the old days. And across the pond looking at the ship in port was a big deal to them. I used to call it 'us looking at them looking at us.'
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 5:20:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SevenMMmag:
Originally Posted By blacksunshinez51:
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
They put a missile into the side of my old ship.

Bastards.


Better that, than getting scrapped out, sold to China and made into shitty cars.

Id rather see her on the bottom of the see this way. At least she provided training for the HER fleet in her demise, not the enemies. SINKEX of a ship that I was on.
USS GUAM


2 HARM missiles
2 Hellfire Missile
2 Penguin Missiles
4 Maverick Missiles
CBU-99 Cluster Bombs
about 40 Laser Guided Bombs (LGB) using the MK-82 500lb warhead,
1 air-launched Harpoon Missile
9 surface-launched Harpoons
Naval gunfire
MK-48 ADCAP torpedo.

damn
D...d...d...DOUBLE DAMN!

That grand old lady took a HELL of a lot of abuse! My compliments to her designers!


But...I don't think there's a ship afloat that can shrug off an ADCAP. One of those means game over, man! Game over!

It might as well be a swimming nuke.

CJ


Link Posted: 10/29/2010 5:21:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aramark:
so the military wants to go green why not scrap it and melt it down?


The cost to disassemble ships is often greater than the scrap value.


CJ



Link Posted: 10/29/2010 5:22:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
What's that like for a Sailor to hear that a ship he served on has been decommissioned or sunk like that?


I was pretty psyched when one of the ships on which I served was in a SINKEX. I hated that fucking boat.
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 5:28:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 5:31:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MiG-21:
Only took one shot to sink my first ship, USS John Young DD-973

1 Mk-48 ADCAP


http://ussthorndd988.com/sitebuilder/images/sinkex3-600x400.jpg


http://ussthorndd988.com/Thornsistership.html


That is why submarines always scared the shit out of me.
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 5:47:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/29/2010 5:56:05 PM EDT by ArmyAirborne]
Originally Posted By cmjohnson:

Originally Posted By Aramark:
so the military wants to go green why not scrap it and melt it down?


The cost to disassemble ships is often greater than the scrap value.


CJ





And sinking IS actually green. They become artificial reefs and attract and promote marine life. Florida has several from the last decade or so, including a carrier, that were sunk specifically to be reefs and not used for a SINKEX or any other training or testing. Google the Oriskany, Vandenburg, and Spiegel Grove. There are several less than 10 miles from where I'm sitting now that were sunk during testing in the 70s. I fish over a cruiser and three destroyers pretty regularly. Cruiser is the Wilkes Barre, not 100% on the destroyers. They're all real close but if you look at maps of the keys this place is littered with destroyers. There's a few subs too.

ETA: I was at the Vandy sinking. It was so green they delayed the sinking for about an hour because someone THOUGHT they might have seen a turtle within 1/2 mile of it on the day of the event.
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 5:49:22 PM EDT
Anyone know what they did with the USS Belleau Wood? I know it was sank, but how/ where?
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 5:50:23 PM EDT
that is true, i forgot about the reefs. just thought the USA could use the scrap, but understand that it would take a lot of time and money. Isn't there a navy grave yard? i thought i saw a picture of a bunch of ships all lined up.
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 5:50:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
They put a missile into the side of my old ship.

Bastards.


They have no respect.

If the boat was still in decent mechanical shape it could have been easily sold.

Still, a better fate than being chained up in that harbor near Oakland to sit and rust...
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 5:52:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Aramark:
that is true, i forgot about the reefs. just thought the USA could use the scrap, but understand that it would take a lot of time and money. Isn't there a navy grave yard? i thought i saw a picture of a bunch of ships all lined up.


Suisun Bay in CA has a bunch, visible in Google Earth.
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 5:56:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Spade:

Originally Posted By RarestRX:
Originally Posted By marksman121:

http://i55.tinypic.com/27xm5jq.jpg

http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/101026-N-3374C-148.jpg
101026-N-3374C-148 ATLANTIC OCEAN (Oct. 26, 2010) Naval Air Crewmen 2nd Class William Morrison, assigned to Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 70 embarked aboard the guided-missile cruiser USS Gettysburg (CG 64), fires a GAU-16 .50-caliber machine gun from an MH-60R Sea Hawk helicopter at ex-USNS Saturn during a sinking exercise. Gettysburg is part of the George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group and is participating in an exercise in the Atlantic Ocean. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Tony Curtis/Released)


Huh?


Lightweight M2 with some minor changes.

ETA: Oh, yeah, I see what you're seeing. That's not a GAU-16 at all.


What about the 82nd Airborne SSI minus the "Airborne" tab?
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 9:52:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Aramark:
that is true, i forgot about the reefs. just thought the USA could use the scrap, but understand that it would take a lot of time and money. Isn't there a navy grave yard? i thought i saw a picture of a bunch of ships all lined up.


We had a sizeable reserve fleet of warships but in the last decade most of it has been scrapped. Hopefully we never find ourselves needing to put a bunch of ships in service quickly. Most of what's in reserve fleets now are auxiliaries, service ships, and merchant vessels.
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 10:22:43 PM EDT
Missouri broadside

That'll get yer dick hard.
Link Posted: 10/29/2010 10:33:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By marksman121:

http://i55.tinypic.com/27xm5jq.jpg

http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/101026-N-3374C-148.jpg
101026-N-3374C-148 ATLANTIC OCEAN (Oct. 26, 2010) Naval Air Crewmen 2nd Class William Morrison, assigned to Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 70 embarked aboard the guided-missile cruiser USS Gettysburg (CG 64), fires a GAU-16 .50-caliber machine gun from an MH-60R Sea Hawk helicopter at ex-USNS Saturn during a sinking exercise. Gettysburg is part of the George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group and is participating in an exercise in the Atlantic Ocean. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Tony Curtis/Released)



George H.W. Bush Strike Group Sinks Ex-USNS Saturn
By Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Sandi Grimnes, USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77) Public Affairs

USS GEORGE H.W. BUSH, At Sea (NNS) –– Sea and air assets assigned to the George H.W. Bush (CVN 77) Carrier Strike Group (CSG) successfully sunk the former U.S. Navy re-supply ship USNS Saturn (T-AFS 100) in a sinking exercise (SINKEX) in the Atlantic Ocean, Oct. 27.

Ships from Destroyer Squadron 22 and aircraft from Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 8, along with Patrol Squadron (VP) 10 and VP 45, participated in the real-world tactical training exercise with surface-to-surface, air-to-surface and surface-to-air live fire, said Commander, Destroyer Squadron 22 Capt. Jeffrey Wolstenholme, who was responsible for the coordination, planning and execution of the two-day SINKEX.

The guided-missile destroyer USS Mitscher (DDG 57) and the guided-missile cruisers USS Philippine Sea (CG 58) and USS Gettysburg (CG 64) launched missiles, 5-inch guns, Close-In Weapons System (CIWS) and 25-mm and .50-cal weapons. In addition, aircraft and helicopters from CVW 8 launched from Bush and employed bombs and air-to-surface missiles during the exercise.

The sinking exercise focused on integrated strike group operations, command and control procedures, pre-planned responses to maritime threats and surface action group operations. As the strike group prepares for a combat deployment in spring 2011, the sinking exercise provided a unique opportunity to practice combat scenarios, to include tactics and procedures. The exercise was planned to scale up the attacks during the course of the two days, Wolstenholme said.

The first day's attacks were aimed at Saturn's superstructure to prevent hull integrity breaches. The attacks designed to sink the ship occurred on the second day. Every watertight door and hatch was closed on Saturn to ensure the maximum watertight integrity of the ship, so it would stay afloat until the final event where it was sunk with 5-inch rounds, said Wolstenholme.

Using a decommissioned ship as a training platform allows the U.S. Navy to improve the warfighting skills of those who currently serve. Real world training, such as this sinking exercise, enhances force readiness in a way that is unmatched by any simulated scenario.

This exercise demonstrated the strike group's ability to plan and execute warfare competencies such as maritime security, sea control, power projection and deterrence, said Capt. Patrick R. Cleary, commander, CVW 8.

"Everyone in the strike group is very excited to have the opportunity to conduct this exercise because it is rare to be involved in this," Wolstenholme said. "You have an actual life-size ship out there that you can attack with aircraft coming in, ships driving in close proximity and ships launching missiles from long-range getting targeting information from aircraft. It's really hard to replicate this without a hull to shoot at."

Saturn was prepared for the exercise in accordance with all U.S. Environmental Protection Agency requirements, Wolstenholme said. All the fuel oil tanks and piping were cleaned and flushed of petroleum products, and all readily detachable material capable of creating debris or contributing to chemical pollution was removed from the ship.

"We are very sensitive to the environment," Wolstenholme said. "We take great strides to ensure that we are monitoring the environment. We have dropped sonobuoys around the hull to listen for any marine mammals that may be vocalizing and we are surveying the area for marine mammals, sea turtles and concentrations of jelly fish by flying aircraft over the hull and surrounding area.

"Until we have that absolute verification, we do not give permission to launch any weapons," said Wolstenholme. "We have to have that assurance that we will not be putting marine mammals and sea turtles in danger before we begin firing at the former USNS Saturn."

The Navy has put a moratorium on the sinking exercise after 2010 to conduct a comprehensive review of the requirements, costs, benefits and environmental impacts of the current process, said Wolstenholme. Even with the moratorium, the Navy will continue to get the training it needs, just not in the totality that it gets in the sinking exercise.

Saturn was transferred from the British Fleet Auxiliary to Military Sealift Command Dec. 13, 1983. Saturn was in service for more than 25 years and was deactivated April 6, 2009. Towing and salvage specialists at Inactive Ship Maintenance Facility in Philadelphia verified that the 523-foot ship was seaworthy before it was towed about 250 miles off the coast of North Carolina.

For more news from USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77), visit www.navy.mil/local/cvn77/.




I was on a tour boat in Norfolk a few days ago and all the CVs were out (ALL of them). Now I know at least what one of them was up to

Sad to see a good ship die, but much better that than razor blades
Link Posted: 10/30/2010 2:47:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By blacksunshinez51:
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
They put a missile into the side of my old ship.

Bastards.


Better that, than getting scrapped out, sold to China and made into shitty cars.

Id rather see her on the bottom of the sea this way. At least she provided training for the HER fleet in her demise, not the enemies. SINKEX of a ship that I was on.
USS GUAM

ETA: Spelling sea not see


Damn! That hull took some fucking punishment!
Link Posted: 10/30/2010 2:53:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/30/2010 3:14:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Spade:

Originally Posted By RarestRX:
Originally Posted By marksman121:

http://i55.tinypic.com/27xm5jq.jpg

http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/101026-N-3374C-148.jpg
101026-N-3374C-148 ATLANTIC OCEAN (Oct. 26, 2010) Naval Air Crewmen 2nd Class William Morrison, assigned to Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 70 embarked aboard the guided-missile cruiser USS Gettysburg (CG 64), fires a GAU-16 .50-caliber machine gun from an MH-60R Sea Hawk helicopter at ex-USNS Saturn during a sinking exercise. Gettysburg is part of the George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group and is participating in an exercise in the Atlantic Ocean. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Tony Curtis/Released)


Huh?


Lightweight M2 with some minor changes.

ETA: Oh, yeah, I see what you're seeing. That's not a GAU-16 at all.


At least they didn't say it was an AK-47! They tried, give them some credit!
Link Posted: 10/30/2010 3:15:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By blacksunshinez51:
I just found that video last week. I knew they sunk her years ago. DAMN she put up a fight though. That's a lot ordinance.

Which one? City...or County ordinance?
Link Posted: 10/30/2010 3:22:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By MonkTx:
Missouri broadside

That'll get yer dick hard.

Damn, those 5" guns were putting on a show.

I liked the whiff of white smoke coming out of the 16" tube at 1:54, almost like the gun was lighting up a smoke after sex.

Link Posted: 10/30/2010 3:24:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
What's that like for a Sailor to hear that a ship he served on has been decommissioned or sunk like that?



I was on the USS Jouett (cg-29). I knew that it was eventually going to become part of a reef somewhere, but was heartbroken when they finally did it. It's like moving away from a home you grew up in.
Link Posted: 10/30/2010 3:27:05 AM EDT
Wait, what? 9 Harpoons didn't kill it? They're talking about the missile, right, not the pointy stick with rope on one end?

And sorry to hear about your ship, 2P. Guess it's better to go out fighting than to rust away along some dock.
Link Posted: 10/30/2010 3:30:12 AM EDT


Sunburn Nasty nasty.
Link Posted: 10/30/2010 3:48:58 AM EDT
My Grandfather was always proud that the Baker shot couldn't sink his old cruiser the USS Pensacola CA-24. My Grandfather most liked that the Navy had to finish her off with guns and bombs, my Grandfather always said it was better for your old ship to go down "fighting" than be turned into razor blades at a scrapyard.
Link Posted: 10/30/2010 3:49:13 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TZLVredmist:
Anyone know what they did with the USS Belleau Wood? I know it was sank, but how/ where?


When were you on the Belleau Wood? I was on her for Westpac 89. AIMD AVI, The Veal Wood as we called her.

I saw pictures of her sinking about three or four years ago. If you look up USS Belleau Wood, there are pictures but no video. Same for the USS Okinawa. They sunk her after the Belleau Wood.
Link Posted: 10/30/2010 5:01:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By MonkTx:
Missouri broadside

That'll get yer dick hard.


Mission Accomplished!
Link Posted: 10/30/2010 5:06:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By JBlitzen:
Wait, what? 9 Harpoons didn't kill it? They're talking about the missile, right, not the pointy stick with rope on one end?

And sorry to hear about your ship, 2P. Guess it's better to go out fighting than to rust away along some dock.


The target is stripped of all flammables and explosives. No Aviation fuel, no weaponry, no flammables on board. It's just a floating hunk of metal.
Link Posted: 10/30/2010 5:28:59 AM EDT
Yup, there's no way to truly test how a ship will stand up to live ordnance. Even if they set condition Z and had her fully loaded with fuel, ammunition and provisions, there is no way to simulate damage control efforts that would be performed by the crew in a live situation. They can approximate but can't truly simulate. Plus, the ship is just sitting there, no maneuvering, no shooting back. An empty hulk with no or very little flammable material on board can absorb quite a bit of damage without sinking.
Link Posted: 10/30/2010 5:31:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
They put a missile into the side of my old ship.

Bastards.


I'm sorry man, I really am, but the other option was to be turned into razor blades.

Better for a good old warhorse to go out gloriously, than to be reduced to manscaping duty.
Link Posted: 10/30/2010 5:36:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DLoken:

What about the 82nd Airborne SSI minus the "Airborne" tab?

No idea but I'm also curious. Bump.
Link Posted: 10/30/2010 5:44:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By blacksunshinez51:
Originally Posted By Zaphod:
They put a missile into the side of my old ship.

Bastards.


Better that, than getting scrapped out, sold to China and made into shitty cars.

Id rather see her on the bottom of the sea this way. At least she provided training for the HER fleet in her demise, not the enemies. SINKEX of a ship that I was on.
USS GUAM

ETA: Spelling sea not see


I suppose.

Still sucks to see the old lady take a hit.

I have the video on my hard drive.
Link Posted: 10/30/2010 12:22:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/30/2010 12:25:36 PM EDT by TZLVredmist]
Originally Posted By geiger1:
Originally Posted By TZLVredmist:
Anyone know what they did with the USS Belleau Wood? I know it was sank, but how/ where?


When were you on the Belleau Wood? I was on her for Westpac 89. AIMD AVI, The Veal Wood as we called her.

I saw pictures of her sinking about three or four years ago. If you look up USS Belleau Wood, there are pictures but no video. Same for the USS Okinawa. They sunk her after the Belleau Wood.


I was on the "Ghetto Hood" Twice between 1996 and 2000.


ETA:

Video of the sinkex on the USS Belleau Wood.. Makes me sad.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c8e_1190959582
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