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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:30:22 AM EDT
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Damn
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:32:52 AM EDT
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It does not surprise me if they did. The black rifle market is all about the AR platform.
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:34:20 AM EDT
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Looks like the classic and 551-A1 is on there as well
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:34:52 AM EDT
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It does not surprise me if they did. The black rifle market is all about the AR platform. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 556R is far closer to an AK than an AR. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:35:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It does not surprise me if they did. The black rifle market is all about the AR platform. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Especially when the rifle produces videos like MACs first one on the 556R. A SiG should not function that poorly. It's the price of having SiGs reputation.
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:40:06 AM EDT
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Looks like the classic and 551-A1 is on there as well Go to their products page and those two are still listed. Might just be a website screw up. I hope so |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:40:40 AM EDT
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Looks like the classic and 551-A1 is on there as well Wow, the 551-A1 didn't last long. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:41:05 AM EDT
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I disagree. The black rifle market in our Obama economy really just doesn't support non-AR firearms at this moment in time. Especially when the rifle produces videos like MACs first one on the 556R. A SiG should not function that poorly. It's the price of having SiGs reputation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It does not surprise me if they did. The black rifle market is all about the AR platform. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Especially when the rifle produces videos like MACs first one on the 556R. A SiG should not function that poorly. It's the price of having SiGs reputation. Gen2 was supposed to have fixed those issues. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:42:21 AM EDT
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Wow, the 551-A1 didn't last long. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like the classic and 551-A1 is on there as well Wow, the 551-A1 didn't last long. http://www.sigsauer.com/Catalog/rifles.aspx 551-A1 is still there |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:42:28 AM EDT
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Go to their products page and those two are still listed. Might just be a website screw up. I hope so Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like the classic and 551-A1 is on there as well Go to their products page and those two are still listed. Might just be a website screw up. I hope so I did that for the 551-a1 and there is no description or other info any longer. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:44:06 AM EDT
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Looks like the classic and 551-A1 is on there as well Wow, the 551-A1 didn't last long. http://www.sigsauer.com/Catalog/rifles.aspx 551-A1 is still there Click on it. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:44:51 AM EDT
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Wow, the 551-A1 didn't last long. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like the classic and 551-A1 is on there as well Wow, the 551-A1 didn't last long. Nope, certainly didn't. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:46:03 AM EDT
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I did that for the 551-a1 and there is no description or other info any longer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like the classic and 551-A1 is on there as well Go to their products page and those two are still listed. Might just be a website screw up. I hope so I did that for the 551-a1 and there is no description or other info any longer. Good catch. Missed that. Hmmm |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:46:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gen2 was supposed to have fixed those issues. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It does not surprise me if they did. The black rifle market is all about the AR platform. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Especially when the rifle produces videos like MACs first one on the 556R. A SiG should not function that poorly. It's the price of having SiGs reputation. Gen2 was supposed to have fixed those issues. market place.......and that would be when the economy was good.
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:46:37 AM EDT
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Sig-Sauer really needs to discontinue most of their products
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:48:34 AM EDT
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I wish they sold the SIG551-A1 SBR with a 16" barrel (yes I know it would not be an SBR).
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:53:16 AM EDT
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is the 556R the only platform that they make that is 7.62x39?
Damn, my dad and brother and I were just talking about getting one |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:54:14 AM EDT
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That's good............been thinking about getting one sometime
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Looks like the classic and 551-A1 is on there as well Wow, the 551-A1 didn't last long. http://www.sigsauer.com/Catalog/rifles.aspx 551-A1 is still there |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:55:03 AM EDT
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lmao maybe they found out gabe was its main supporter.....
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:55:28 AM EDT
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Looks like the classic and 551-A1 is on there as well Wow, the 551-A1 didn't last long. http://www.sigsauer.com/Catalog/rifles.aspx 551-A1 is still there No, it's gone. The 551-A1 page is blank. There are still some on gunbroker though and the prices aren't too bad yet since there are probably some rifles still in the supply lines. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:56:23 AM EDT
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I like mine... years of shooting with no issues. The only complaint I have is the ergo of the selector switch.
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:58:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2013 7:58:48 AM EDT
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I like mine... years of shooting with no issues. The only complaint I have is the ergo of the selector switch. ManticoreArms and Krebs customs both have extended versions. I'm lefty so I went with manticore as its ambi. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:00:13 AM EDT
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556R is far closer to an AK than an AR. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It does not surprise me if they did. The black rifle market is all about the AR platform. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 556R is far closer to an AK than an AR. I'm also unsurprised. If someone wants to get into 7.62x39, then they can either jump in at a much lower price point with a budget AK, or spend the same $$$ as the 556R on a high end AK. Also, for the price of the 556R you'd think they'd throw in a set of BUIS. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:05:04 AM EDT
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That sucks, I really like my 556R. It's a 2nd gen, don't have any experience with the 1st gen. Quote HistoryQuoted: ManticoreArms and Krebs customs both have extended versions. I'm lefty so I went with manticore as its ambi. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I like mine... years of shooting with no issues. The only complaint I have is the ergo of the selector switch. ManticoreArms and Krebs customs both have extended versions. I'm lefty so I went with manticore as its ambi. Lefty here too, I've been looking at the MA safety. It is awkward using my left thumb on the safety due to the folding stock hinge. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:08:09 AM EDT
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I'll try to remember to post when I get mine installed.
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:10:01 AM EDT
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Why the smile? Competition drives innovation |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:10:09 AM EDT
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apparently theyre re-doing everything for 2014...so it most likely will be back along with those other rifles..
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:10:42 AM EDT
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apparently theyre re-doing everything for 2014...so it most likely will be back along with those other rifles.. Great to hear. Thank you! |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:12:29 AM EDT
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apparently theyre re-doing everything for 2014...so it most likely will be back along with those other rifles.. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:13:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: apparently theyre re-doing everything for 2014...so it most likely will be back along with those other rifles..  If I can come up with the scratch at the right time I actually would like to try a 556R, but availability and disposable income haven't coincided yet.
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:14:41 AM EDT
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SIG 556 family of rifles had triggers that just sucked for fast trigger work.
They were consistently slower split times compared to working with AR's and drop in triggers. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:16:12 AM EDT
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Here is hoping that they don't try to TAPCO f*(& everything even more than the first 556.
If I can come up with the scratch at the right time I actually would like to try a 556R, but availability and disposable income haven't coincided yet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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apparently theyre re-doing everything for 2014...so it most likely will be back along with those other rifles..
If I can come up with the scratch at the right time I actually would like to try a 556R, but availability and disposable income haven't coincided yet. Got mine from TheGunZone.net in Texas (at gun show) for under $1140 after tax. Edited because I think I sent someone is someone somewhere else entirely. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:16:43 AM EDT
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apparently theyre re-doing everything for 2014...so it most likely will be back along with those other rifles.. Thanks for the confirmation! |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:17:28 AM EDT
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They have done this with their website before where things get shuffled around into the "discontinued" category and then pop back up as production items, so I wouldn't consider any of the guns as "gone" quite yet.
I would check their website again in a week or two and see what it looks like when it is cleaned up- it is obviously a work in progress as there is missing text and pictures in a couple of places. I guess their web developer doesn't know how to preview a site before going live!  
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:18:12 AM EDT
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I have worked on a few 556's.
Not impressed at all. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:20:11 AM EDT
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SIG 556 family of rifles had triggers that just sucked for fast trigger work. They were consistently slower split times compared to working with AR's and drop in triggers. There are trigger replacements out there by companies, for example ShootingSight.com. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:40:17 AM EDT
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Hopefully, they'll come out with a version that duplicates the Swiss issue infantry rifle with a 20 in barrel.
Sig really fucked the dog with their product line. There was so much eager anticipation for their newly-released rifle ("because it's time"), and then they offered what had to be the ugliest POS to ever wear an M4 type buttstock. The later version that became the "classic" sucked as much as the first one. The 551A1 came the closest, but why Sig didn't just stick to the original Swiss Army standard configuration to begin with is beyond me. Stupid. If they release a semi-auto Stg 90 like the old pre-import ban models (which are slightly expensive), I'll spend the flow for it in a heartbeat. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:42:09 AM EDT
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apparently theyre re-doing everything for 2014...so it most likely will be back along with those other rifles.. So the Sig 500 series rifles are not discontinued? I really wanted either a 556 or 551A1 but after reading reviews and seeing MAC's videos I changed my mind. For Sig to produce these guns and become popular, the quality and prices have to compete with the AR and its big name companies. If they re-released the series with better quality like that would be found with the actual Swiss rifles, I'd trade my M1A for one. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:44:18 AM EDT
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They need to release a 552.
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Posted: 9/12/2013 8:55:37 AM EDT
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Hopefully, they'll come out with a version that duplicates the Swiss issue infantry rifle with a 20 in barrel. Sig really fucked the dog with their product line. There was so much eager anticipation for their newly-released rifle ("because it's time"), and then they offered what had to be the ugliest POS to ever wear an M4 type buttstock. The later version that became the "classic" sucked as much as the first one. The 551A1 came the closest, but why Sig didn't just stick to the original Swiss Army standard configuration to begin with is beyond me. Stupid. If they release a semi-auto Stg 90 like the old pre-import ban models (which are slightly expensive), I'll spend the flow for it in a heartbeat. Yes. Yes to all of this. I'm still glad I got a 556R, but the coming SIG firearms might have neat additions (reading elsewhere there's a vague chance of ambi charging handles.......). Again, just producing the Stg90 in SA would be epic and plenty for me personally. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 9:02:20 AM EDT
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So the Sig 500 series rifles are not discontinued? I really wanted either a 556 or 551A1 but after reading reviews and seeing MAC's videos I changed my mind. *Snip* Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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apparently theyre re-doing everything for 2014...so it most likely will be back along with those other rifles.. So the Sig 500 series rifles are not discontinued? I really wanted either a 556 or 551A1 but after reading reviews and seeing MAC's videos I changed my mind. *Snip* Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Where are these MAC videos? My neighbor just bought a Gen 2, 556R for his wife. Also, any info you guys can share about upgrade parts for it is appreciated. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 9:19:24 AM EDT
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Where are these MAC videos? My neighbor just bought a Gen 2, 556R for his wife. Also, any info you guys can share about upgrade parts for it is appreciated. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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apparently theyre re-doing everything for 2014...so it most likely will be back along with those other rifles.. So the Sig 500 series rifles are not discontinued? I really wanted either a 556 or 551A1 but after reading reviews and seeing MAC's videos I changed my mind. *Snip* Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Where are these MAC videos? My neighbor just bought a Gen 2, 556R for his wife. Also, any info you guys can share about upgrade parts for it is appreciated. Trigger Pistol grip Manticore and Hogue Selector switch Manticore and Kregs Sights (I went with MFI MADs) but there are several options Quad rails-Samson, SIG and Troy Charging handle-Manticore (some others, but brands escape me at the moment) I'm changing out the flash hider (to a suppressor mount) Adding a VTAC sling Optics |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 9:44:00 AM EDT
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Yes. Yes to all of this. I'm still glad I got a 556R, but the coming SIG firearms might have neat additions (reading elsewhere there's a vague chance of ambi charging handles.......). Again, just producing the Stg90 in SA would be epic and plenty for me personally. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hopefully, they'll come out with a version that duplicates the Swiss issue infantry rifle with a 20 in barrel. Sig really fucked the dog with their product line. There was so much eager anticipation for their newly-released rifle ("because it's time"), and then they offered what had to be the ugliest POS to ever wear an M4 type buttstock. The later version that became the "classic" sucked as much as the first one. The 551A1 came the closest, but why Sig didn't just stick to the original Swiss Army standard configuration to begin with is beyond me. Stupid. If they release a semi-auto Stg 90 like the old pre-import ban models (which are slightly expensive), I'll spend the flow for it in a heartbeat. Yes. Yes to all of this. I'm still glad I got a 556R, but the coming SIG firearms might have neat additions (reading elsewhere there's a vague chance of ambi charging handles.......). Again, just producing the Stg90 in SA would be epic and plenty for me personally. Seems to me that rationalizing the production line to reflect the current Swiss military standard would meet business needs better than fucking around with some abortion of a design that attempts to reinvent the wheel. Why not just stamp out the lower receiver like the original? Why fabricate the lower from forgings that have to be designed and engineered from the ground up? Why not just use the original design with whatever mods to meet federal requirements to be legal, and be done with it? The mil. issue Stg 90 has already been designed, tested, produced by the tens if not hundreds of thousands and is a proven performer. The TDP already existed, with all specs and revisions. The decision to design a new rifle was not only a strategic error for the purposes of marketing, but an expensive and unnecessary duplication of costs. The justification for the new lower was so that it would accept M16 magazines. Makes sense I guess, since the M16 magazine is such an awesome design 
After all, it's not like the molds for the original Sgt 90 magazine existed or anything. Too bad Sig couldn't make them here. Some things are just impossible I suppose. Whoever the CEO of Sig is or was at the time of the introduction of the original model should have been fucking fired. |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 9:50:22 AM EDT
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Hopefully, they'll come out with a version that duplicates the Swiss issue infantry rifle with a 20 in barrel. Sig really fucked the dog with their product line. There was so much eager anticipation for their newly-released rifle ("because it's time"), and then they offered what had to be the ugliest POS to ever wear an M4 type buttstock. The later version that became the "classic" sucked as much as the first one. The 551A1 came the closest, but why Sig didn't just stick to the original Swiss Army standard configuration to begin with is beyond me. Stupid. If they release a semi-auto Stg 90 like the old pre-import ban models (which are slightly expensive), I'll spend the flow for it in a heartbeat. PLEASE!!!!! |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 9:56:21 AM EDT
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Seems to me that rationalizing the production line to reflect the current Swiss military standard would meet business needs better than fucking around with some abortion of a design that attempts to reinvent the wheel. Why not just stamp out the lower receiver like the original? Why fabricate the lower from forgings that have to be designed and engineered from the ground up? Why not just use the original design with whatever mods to meet federal requirements to be legal, and be done with it? The mil. issue Stg 90 has already been designed, tested, produced by the tens if not hundreds of thousands and is a proven performer. The TDP already existed, with all specs and revisions. The decision to design a new rifle was not only a strategic error for the purposes of marketing, but an expensive and unnecessary duplication of costs. The justification for the new lower was so that it would accept M16 magazines. Makes sense I guess, since the M16 magazine is such an awesome design
After all, it's not like the molds for the original Sgt 90 magazine existed or anything. Too bad Sig couldn't make them here. Some things are just impossible I suppose. Whoever the CEO of Sig is or was at the time of the introduction of the original model should have been fucking fired. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hopefully, they'll come out with a version that duplicates the Swiss issue infantry rifle with a 20 in barrel. Sig really fucked the dog with their product line. There was so much eager anticipation for their newly-released rifle ("because it's time"), and then they offered what had to be the ugliest POS to ever wear an M4 type buttstock. The later version that became the "classic" sucked as much as the first one. The 551A1 came the closest, but why Sig didn't just stick to the original Swiss Army standard configuration to begin with is beyond me. Stupid. If they release a semi-auto Stg 90 like the old pre-import ban models (which are slightly expensive), I'll spend the flow for it in a heartbeat. Yes. Yes to all of this. I'm still glad I got a 556R, but the coming SIG firearms might have neat additions (reading elsewhere there's a vague chance of ambi charging handles.......). Again, just producing the Stg90 in SA would be epic and plenty for me personally. Seems to me that rationalizing the production line to reflect the current Swiss military standard would meet business needs better than fucking around with some abortion of a design that attempts to reinvent the wheel. Why not just stamp out the lower receiver like the original? Why fabricate the lower from forgings that have to be designed and engineered from the ground up? Why not just use the original design with whatever mods to meet federal requirements to be legal, and be done with it? The mil. issue Stg 90 has already been designed, tested, produced by the tens if not hundreds of thousands and is a proven performer. The TDP already existed, with all specs and revisions. The decision to design a new rifle was not only a strategic error for the purposes of marketing, but an expensive and unnecessary duplication of costs. The justification for the new lower was so that it would accept M16 magazines. Makes sense I guess, since the M16 magazine is such an awesome design
After all, it's not like the molds for the original Sgt 90 magazine existed or anything. Too bad Sig couldn't make them here. Some things are just impossible I suppose. Whoever the CEO of Sig is or was at the time of the introduction of the original model should have been fucking fired. Be honest, while the 556 was not really a home run for enthusiasts, at this point how does making a reproduction of an aging rifle advance the brand, goals, and long term viability of a company who's developing new modern defense oriented firearms like the 516, 716, MPX, MCX, LVAW, and XI? |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 10:04:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Be honest, while the 556 was not really a home run for enthusiasts, at this point how does making a reproduction of an aging rifle advance the brand, goals, and long term viability of a company who's developing new modern defense oriented firearms like the 516, 716, MPX, MCX, LVAW, and XI? Quote HistoryQuoted: |
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Posted: 9/12/2013 10:04:50 AM EDT
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Picked one up when they were first released, was appalled at how nose-heavy it was, put it back down.
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Posted: 9/12/2013 10:13:59 AM EDT
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Would like a SIG for my old vs new theme i got going along in my collection. My k31 is lonely.
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Posted: 9/12/2013 10:17:32 AM EDT
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Should I buy a SIG 551A1 or pass?
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