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Posted: 5/14/2004 3:05:20 PM EST

Just saw this question on a AOL poll and 80% of the people responding said yes.

What do ya'll think, should we pull out if Iraq's government asks us to?
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 3:07:24 PM EST
Thats what Paul Bremer said today in an interview.
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 3:10:21 PM EST
If the Iraqi government asks us to? Absolutely not. We went in to do a job, and we need to make sure that the job is done right before pulling out. Otherwise, we will be back there in a few years, cleaning up the mess again. I imagine their situation is this: Please leave our country, but continue giving us money and fixing/building our infrastructure for us. Absolutely NOT. If they want our money, they have to play by OUR rules
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 3:15:11 PM EST

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:
Thats what Paul Bremer said today in an interview.



Yeah, but what I thing it really means is that we will leave if they ask to after the treaty they sign expires in 30 years

Think about it. Do you really thing we would leave Korea, Japan, or Germany if they just asked?

Sgtar15
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 3:22:35 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 3:56:21 PM EST
shotar has it right. We will leave them to their cities, and keep our bases in the hinterlands.
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 4:10:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:
Thats what Paul Bremer said today in an interview.



Yeah, but what I thing it really means is that we will leave if they ask to after the treaty they sign expires in 30 years

Think about it. Do you really thing we would leave Korea, Japan, or Germany if they just asked?

Sgtar15



I don't put words in other peoples mouth. I would hope we would leave Korea, Japan, or Germany if they asked. I don't want Americans risking their lives or taxpayers paying the bills for anybody who does not want or appreciate our help.
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 4:12:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By shotar:
Of course we will leave Iraq. We will leave the cities, we will leave the domestic security issues, we will leave the infrastructure headaches, we will leave the daily administration of the place. We will not however leave George W. Bush international airport, Rice naval base, Cheney Naval air station, or the Rumsfeld Army base.




BINGO, we have a winner folks!

Tj
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 4:13:40 PM EST
Of course, the government of Iraq is never going to ask us to leave. In their present state, everyone of them from the ruling council to the cop on the street would have their heads chopped off in weeks. It will take decades before that country is stable enough to go it alone.

It is OUR installed government.

If S. Korea, Japan, or Germany asked us to leave, we would. Our goals for being there have been accomplished. S. Korea is strong enough to go it alone.
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 4:18:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By pogo:
Of course, the government of Iraq is never going to ask us to leave. In their present state, everyone of them from the ruling council to the cop on the street would have their heads chopped off in weeks. It will take decades before that country is stable enough to go it alone.

It is OUR installed government.

If S. Korea, Japan, or Germany asked us to leave, we would. Our goals for being there have been accomplished. S. Korea is strong enough to go it alone.



Absolutely 100% correct.
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 4:20:02 PM EST
F$#@ NO

1. I fought 2 wars with that country!
2. I was offered a job worth $175,000.00 to go over there for a year!

I want my part of that $80 Billion dollars to rebuild Iraq.

AND YES I SUPPORT PRESIDENT BUSH
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 4:27:05 PM EST
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if we were effectively out by November…

Andy
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 4:32:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/14/2004 4:33:10 PM EST by TomJefferson]

Originally Posted By pogo:
Of course, the government of Iraq is never going to ask us to leave. In their present state, everyone of them from the ruling council to the cop on the street would have their heads chopped off in weeks. It will take decades before that country is stable enough to go it alone.

It is OUR installed government.

If S. Korea, Japan, or Germany asked us to leave, we would. Our goals for being there have been accomplished. S. Korea is strong enough to go it alone.



Problem is pal their goal isn't accomplished which is to keep all those dollars associated with the bases.

Classic example is the Phillipines that took a major economic downturn after asking us to leave.

Tj
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 4:41:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By TomJefferson:

Originally Posted By pogo:
Of course, the government of Iraq is never going to ask us to leave. In their present state, everyone of them from the ruling council to the cop on the street would have their heads chopped off in weeks. It will take decades before that country is stable enough to go it alone.

It is OUR installed government.

If S. Korea, Japan, or Germany asked us to leave, we would. Our goals for being there have been accomplished. S. Korea is strong enough to go it alone.



Problem is pal their goal isn't accomplished which is to keep all those dollars associated with the bases.

Classic example is the Phillipines that took a major economic downturn after asking us to leave.

Tj



I personally think their "goal" is to get America to pay for their defence. So, they don't have to have such a huge defence budget.
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 4:46:09 PM EST
and Powel confirmed, after saying that although he normally ignores hypotheticals he'd answer that one


Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:
Thats what Paul Bremer said today in an interview.

Link Posted: 5/14/2004 5:16:59 PM EST
As I recall, the Philippines did not ask us to leave; we refused to pay the exirbitant lease fees for Clark, Subic, and the other satellite bases. Something like 3 billion/year in 1993 dollars? The man-in-the-street pilipino was in shock that we said no. It all was about a national pride thing to them.

We had other options, like Japan, Guam, and hell, even Vietnam offered us Cam Rahn Bay.

We lost very little, except permanent first class bases there. How have WE suffered since?
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 5:33:15 PM EST
I think we should take the oil and start kicking Iraqis out.

The oil can pay for the cost of the war, the country can host a number of bases where it would be useful for the United States to project military power in the region.

Also by taking the oil and the land we would be sending a rather important message to the governments of the Middle East that they should not support terrorist organizations.

Link Posted: 5/14/2004 5:53:26 PM EST
that'd be worth it just to see the liberals run around like chickens with their heads cut off


Originally Posted By Bostonterrier97:
I think we should take the oil and start kicking Iraqis out.

The oil can pay for the cost of the war, the country can host a number of bases where it would be useful for the United States to project military power in the region.

Also by taking the oil and the land we would be sending a rather important message to the governments of the Middle East that they should not support terrorist organizations.


Link Posted: 5/14/2004 5:55:44 PM EST
Should leave if asked and go clean out Iran.
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 6:55:35 PM EST
We shoudl leave but reserve the right to fill their airspace with B-1s, B-2s, B-52s, and AC-130s if they have a civil war or install a terrorist-friendly government.

GunLvr
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 6:56:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/14/2004 6:57:20 PM EST by TomJefferson]

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:

Originally Posted By TomJefferson:

Originally Posted By pogo:
Of course, the government of Iraq is never going to ask us to leave. In their present state, everyone of them from the ruling council to the cop on the street would have their heads chopped off in weeks. It will take decades before that country is stable enough to go it alone.

It is OUR installed government.

If S. Korea, Japan, or Germany asked us to leave, we would. Our goals for being there have been accomplished. S. Korea is strong enough to go it alone.



Problem is pal their goal isn't accomplished which is to keep all those dollars associated with the bases.

Classic example is the Phillipines that took a major economic downturn after asking us to leave.

Tj



I personally think their "goal" is to get America to pay for their defence. So, they don't have to have such a huge defence budget.



Yep my friend we are on the same page! This is way especially true with Japan.

Tj
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 7:00:36 PM EST
Lets face it, we OWN Iraq pretty much. We could do it more effectively, but as it stands, we're winning the war, and owning a big piece of the sandbox.
Make Iraq a new tourist spot after we've killed all the insurgents! Like Cuba USED to be!
Link Posted: 5/14/2004 7:11:58 PM EST
No insult meant but think about it. We didnt ask for permission to go in. Why would we let them tell us to get out?
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